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Posted by markpierce on Monday, July 6, 2009 12:54 PM

The two pictures below show a structure that is "kitbashed."  The main building and loader are a substantially modified Walthers mine kit.  It has also been accessorized by an attached building from another kit (Pikestuff) and scratch-built foundation, and the whole thing has some added details.

 

 

Below is what I would call a "kitmash."  It combines three separate kits/structures: a school house, small barn, and a Walthers building.  The only alterations were the trimming of some roof ends and non-installation of a belfry.  The combined structure has been accessorized with a plaster foundation and scratch-built wooden dock, with some details added.

 

 

 

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Posted by selector on Monday, July 6, 2009 1:32 PM

Excellent, Mark!!  Now let's see them "at work". Big Smile  Place 'em for us.

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Posted by markpierce on Monday, July 6, 2009 1:39 PM

selector

Excellent, Mark!!  Now let's see them "at work". Big Smile  Place 'em for us.

-Crandell

Will do after acquisition of right-of-way..

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Posted by Hudson on Monday, July 6, 2009 1:40 PM

Nice work Mark!

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Posted by jwhitten on Monday, July 6, 2009 8:53 PM

 Really nice!  What is the purpose of the first building-- the one that's built from the mine kit? It is still a mine or something else?

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Posted by markpierce on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 12:25 AM

jwhitten

 Really nice!  What is the purpose of the first building-- the one that's built from the mine kit? It is still a mine or something else?

It isn't a mine.  It is imagineered to be a non-metallic-mineral processing plant.  The semi-processed product goes out via the overhead bin to be shipped using covered hoppers, and the refined product is bagged and stored in the more modern, single-story building until shipped out by box cars.  The mineral input process isn't modeled here (yet).  My plan is to have a narrow gauge railroad come nearby and unload at a dump underneath its rails, or perhaps a conveyer will bring the raw mineral.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:07 AM

Nice work, Mark.  Thumbs UpThumbs Up

I sense that you have a use in mind for that first structure, but when I saw it, the first thing that sprang to mind was GERN.  I'm told that non-members can view the text in the link, but not the photos, so here's a photo hint about that which I speak:

Send me a PM if you'd like some more info - there are over two dozen modellers world-wide modelling this in one form or another.

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Posted by markpierce on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:36 AM

Modeling this? what?  Have I been invited to the "dark side."

By the way, that's good modeling, Wayne.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:00 AM

 GRRReat work - both of you!

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Posted by jwhitten on Wednesday, July 8, 2009 4:54 AM

markpierce

jwhitten

 Really nice!  What is the purpose of the first building-- the one that's built from the mine kit? It is still a mine or something else?

It isn't a mine.  It is imagineered to be a non-metallic-mineral processing plant.  The semi-processed product goes out via the overhead bin to be shipped using covered hoppers, and the refined product is bagged and stored in the more modern, single-story building until shipped out by box cars.  The mineral input process isn't modeled here (yet).  My plan is to have a narrow gauge railroad come nearby and unload at a dump underneath its rails, or perhaps a conveyer will bring the raw mineral.

Mark

 

 

What non-metallic mineral.... Unobtainium ??

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Posted by Graffen on Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:59 AM

jwhitten

-snip-

 

What non-metallic mineral.... Unobtainium ??

What about this?

http://website.lineone.net/~webrex/commonmins.html

and this:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/418612/North-America/41509/Nonmetallic-minerals

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Posted by markpierce on Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:15 AM

Graffen

jwhitten

-snip-

 

What non-metallic mineral.... Unobtainium ??

What about this?

http://website.lineone.net/~webrex/commonmins.html

Yeah, one of those white-colored ones, from what I've seen.  I haven't had a chance to talk to one of the plant's employees to find out exactly what it is.Mischief

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Posted by IVRW on Monday, August 17, 2009 10:52 AM
What is scary is I have two of the three kits, and I chose to use them all separately.

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Posted by markpierce on Monday, August 17, 2009 11:46 AM

The idea for my "kitmash" was an article in Kalmbach's 1988/89 book Kitbashing HO Model Railroad Structures by Art Curren which combined the AHM farm house and school house.  I did it "one better" by adding the Walthers storage shed to make a more realitically-sized structure to be served by rail.

Hey!   It isn't too late to combine the structures.

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Monday, August 17, 2009 11:49 AM

Graffen

Touché, mon ami! Touché!

. . . . . . . . . . and by the way, the photographs accompanying these postings display some of the best modeling I have seen in quite awhile. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, FELLAS!

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Posted by twhite on Monday, August 17, 2009 11:49 AM

Mark: 

Be-YOU-tiful!! BowBow

Goes to show you that we West Coasters can find things to do with a coal mine structure, after all! 

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Posted by jacon12 on Monday, August 17, 2009 11:51 AM

 Looks great, Mark.  Gonna look REAL good on your layout.  I like the wooden dock you scratch built,  did you use 'real' wood or is it styrene?

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Posted by markpierce on Monday, August 17, 2009 12:33 PM

Thanks, guys.  I have average modeling skills, so I'm sure most can do at least as well.  Just take a bit of care about the surface (painting, weathering).  I either hand paint or use paint-from-a-spray-can, and weather mostly with chalks and weak India-ink wash.  I have difficulty weathering with paint except with a very dry brush or very thin washes.

The deck is made from scale stripwood.  Nothing looks more like wood than real wood.

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Posted by wedudler on Monday, August 17, 2009 12:44 PM

 Great building, Mark.

Do you have already a track plan and operation idea? Shiping and receiving list?     Smile

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Posted by BerkshireSteam on Monday, August 17, 2009 2:06 PM

markpierce

Below is what I would call a "kitmash."  It combines three separate kits/structures: a school house, small barn, and a Walthers building.  The only alterations were the trimming of some roof ends and non-installation of a belfry.  The combined structure has been accessorized with a plaster foundation and scratch-built wooden dock, with some details added. 

Mark 

That's just awesome. The lake I grew up on had a few places like that, one of them was the main marina! It was a boat slip/boat launch/bait shop/parts store/gas station/repair shop/winter storage facility. Now it's some kind of *** overpriced cafe first level/ high priced condo upper level type thing or something, I don't know. Been quite a few years since I've been down that way, starting to wonder if I would even recognize it. The other place was on the Baptist Assembly grounds. It was pretty much just a boat house and matching office connecting with a small boat lift area next to it, but now that I think back the boat house building kind of looked like a train station!!

markpierce

Yeah, one of those white-colored ones, from what I've seen. I haven't had a chance to talk to one of the plant's employees to find out exaclty what it is.Mischief

Calcium maybe? I don't know if lime is white in it's pure form. Could be some kind of finely crushed or ground stone like granit, that has a whiteish gray color to it. There are a few "calcium" companies in town that get boat loads (literally) of ground up calcium powder.

jwhitten

What non-metallic mineral.... Unobtainium ??

Wasn't that the metal they created in the movie "The Core" ? I felt bad for that poor lab rat when he stuck um in da box an shot da laser fru da box. Dat big mousie was so cute. But den da mousie was ok and then I remembered that Hilary Swank was in it and forgot all about the animals. And the other characters. And the fact the Earth was about to die. But then Hilary saved the planet and well...I still didn't notice because they were still showing Hilary Swank MischiefWink

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Posted by markpierce on Monday, August 17, 2009 2:29 PM

wedudler

  Do you have already a track plan and operation idea? Shiping and receiving list?    

Here is the track plan for the branchline terminous, Aeolis, consisting of the entire upper deck of an around-the-room, bedroom-sized layout as yet unbuilt.

 

 

Going clockwise:

Spur to petroleum products distributer (built) receives petroleum products.

Run-around track for arriving/departing trains.

Spur to private railroad serving perlite plant (built-pictured) ships raw and expanded perlite and receives fuel oil and supplies.

Double-ended siding serving engine facilities (turntable built, awaiting Bill Banta for Port Costa roundhouse), stock yard (built) ships livestock, and two single-ended spurs serving feed mill (built) receives grains, feed, and fertilizer, and team track ships/receives various freight.

Double-ended spur serving warehouse of nearby mine (built-pictured) ships tungsten and receives supplies, and combination depot (built) ships/receives express and LCL freight.

The plan purposely avoids industrial switchback tracks except for the perlite plant switching lead, and avoids using double-ended industrial spurs for train run-around movements.  I'm attempting to make the layout operate more like a real railroad rather than a model.

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Posted by wm3798 on Monday, August 17, 2009 3:06 PM

 That's great.  You've rendered those kits to be virtually unrecognizable, and in the process created something truly unique to your railroad.

It drives me nuts when otherwise well crafted layouts look like a bunch of catalog pictures of off-the-rack building kits.

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Posted by wedudler on Monday, August 17, 2009 3:43 PM

markpierce

Spur to petroleum products distributer (built) receives petroleum products.

Run-around track for arriving/departing trains.

Spur to private railroad serving perlite plant (built-pictured) ships raw and expanded perlite and receives fuel oil and supplies.

Double-ended siding serving engine facilities (turntable built, awaiting Bill Banta for Port Costa roundhouse), stock yard (built) ships livestock, and two single-ended spurs serving feed mill (built) receives grains, feed, and fertilizer, and team track ships/receives various freight.

Double-ended spur serving warehouse of nearby mine (built-pictured) ships tungsten and receives supplies, and combination depot (built) ships/receives express and LCL freight.

The plan purposely avoids industrial switchback tracks except for the perlite plant switching lead, and avoids using double-ended industrial spurs for train run-around movements.  I'm attempting to make the layout operate more like a real railroad rather than a model.

Mark

 

Wow, that's a layout itself. Enough for a few operators in a session. Great!

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Monday, August 17, 2009 4:14 PM

wm3798

 That's great.  You've rendered those kits to be virtually unrecognizable, and in the process created something truly unique to your railroad.

It drives me nuts when otherwise well crafted layouts look like a bunch of catalog pictures of off-the-rack building kits.

Lee

To-each-his-own, I suppose, but it drives me nuts also!

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Posted by markpierce on Monday, August 17, 2009 5:33 PM

twhite

Goes to show you that we West Coasters can find things to do with a coal mine structure, after all! 

The Walthers New River Mining Company coal mine has got to be one of the most kitbashashable structures existing.  A whole book would be needed to cover just some of the possibilities.  (Hint, hint, Kalmbach.) ...  I wonder how many thousands of such kits Walthers has sold.

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Posted by Catt on Monday, August 17, 2009 5:55 PM

Gern Flux has many many uses in all different fields from agriculture to farming to the steel industry and the oil business.It can be an is used in just about everything that can be manufactured in any form.

Put it in fuel it results in a 3% minimum increase in mileage,use in older motors and it improves oil milage(by 3% minimum) Used in fertilizer your crops produce  a 3% increase in yield minimum.No mater what Gern Flux is used in shows a minimum of 3% improvement.

As the good doctor said modelers all over the world are modeling Gern facilitys in many scales and gauges ,feel free to join us.Big Smile I'm sure the good doc could supply you with some suitable signage artwork.

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Posted by P5se Camelback on Monday, October 12, 2009 9:53 AM

Mr. Whitten ... are you an Industrial Designer?  When we were conceptualizing some new, far our solution to some new product, like during the "Blue Sky" period of conceptualization, the material was always "unobtainium!" How funny to see it mentioned here!

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, October 12, 2009 7:18 PM

Mark,

I never did respond when this thread was young, but that's a beautiful kitbash!

Now all you need is appropriate signage.  Happy hunting for the 20-mule team decals.

(One guess who used to live and work just west of Boron, CA...)

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Posted by markpierce on Monday, October 12, 2009 11:04 PM

Thanks, Chuck.

The mineral processing plant has the company's name on the side of the  warehouse addition.  The sign says "Pierce Mining Co."  Conveniently, the decal came from the Walthers mine kit.  When I built the three-mashed-buildings warehouse, I hadn't decided on a name yet.  I came up with a name subsequently, but haven't revisited the structure to install a sign.  I've also got to build a half dozen Tichy box car covered hoppers to serve the processing plant, or special order decals to letter them for Pierce Mining.

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Posted by jwhitten on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:31 AM

 

P5se Camelback

Mr. Whitten ... are you an Industrial Designer?  When we were conceptualizing some new, far our solution to some new product, like during the "Blue Sky" period of conceptualization, the material was always "unobtainium!" How funny to see it mentioned here!

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