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QUOTE: Originally posted by der5997 Ed and lupoQUOTE: Lupo, isn’t your Sinter Klas really the origin for our Santa Klaus? What is the occasion that brings a visit from him this early in December? By the way, down here in Mexico, the kids don’t expect presents from Santa Claus on the 25th. They get their gifts on Jan 6th, 12th Night or Epiphany, (Dia de los Reyes Magos, or loosely translated as Day of the Wise Men). Is "Chris Cringle (aka Khris Kringle?) the same chap? Also I seem to remember that Jan 6th is the "Old Christmas" that is the date the Orthodox Church celebrates Christmas. Interesting that Mexico would keep that memory alive.[%-)]
QUOTE: Lupo, isn’t your Sinter Klas really the origin for our Santa Klaus? What is the occasion that brings a visit from him this early in December? By the way, down here in Mexico, the kids don’t expect presents from Santa Claus on the 25th. They get their gifts on Jan 6th, 12th Night or Epiphany, (Dia de los Reyes Magos, or loosely translated as Day of the Wise Men).
QUOTE: In the fourth century a.d. St. Nicholas (in dutch called "Sinterklaas" or "Sint Nicolaas"; in german called "Sankt Nikolaus") was the bishop of Myra, which is now situated in Turkey. According to the legend, he saved his town from starvation. He is also said to have revived three dead children, and to have offered gifts of dowries to poor girls. Some sources say that he died on the sixth of December in 343. In 1087 his relics were taken to Bari in Italy. It is unclear why, according to the Dutch tradition, he comes from Spain. Possibly it has something to do with the fact that St. Nicholas was the patron of sailors. In the 17th century Holland was famous for its navigation. Maybe by contact with Spanish sailors this myth began. It could also explain why St. Nicholas has "zwarte (black) pieten" to help him because the Moors dominated Spain for several hundreds of years. (Another [more popular] explanation for "zwarte piet" being black is that he has come down the chimneys so often [see below] that he can't wa***he dirt off.) His legendary gifts of dowries to poor girls led to the custom of giving gifts to children on the eve of his feast day, 6 December. The companions of St. Nicholas (in Germany and Austria they are called "Knecht Ruprecht" or "Krampus") show the victory over evil. Together with his "pieten" he visits children to puni***he evil ones and to reward the good ones. The worst punishment is to be taken to Spain in "zwarte piet's" bag out of which the good children get the sweets (called "pepernoten", "taai-taai", or "schuimpjes") and presents. A less radical punishment is to get the "roede" (rod) instead of presents. Nowadays there are not much evil children any more... A few weeks before his feastday St. Nicholas comes to Holland (and Belgium) on his steamer with all his "pieten" and the presents which they prepared in Spain during the year. This event can be seen on Dutch television. From his arrival in Holland till his feastday the children can put their shoes in front of the fireplace. During the night St. Nicholas visits all the houses by travelling over the roofs on his horse, traditionally a white/grey (called "Schimmel" in dutch), and "zwarte piet" enters the houses through the chimney to put little presents in the children's shoes. Sometimes the children put straw, carrots and water near the shoe for the horse. On the eve of his feast day St. Nicholas visits all children. After knocking on the door he gives them a bag full of presents (if they were good children). Early in the morning of 6 December, when he has visited everyone, he leaves and goes back silently to Spain, to come back next year.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by luct QUOTE: That is a very beatiful steamer photo in your sig., what is it, a Royal Hudson? cmj89, it is indeed a Royal Hudson. I wish could find an affordable one.... [sigh]
QUOTE: That is a very beatiful steamer photo in your sig., what is it, a Royal Hudson?
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QUOTE: I'm also going to weather it like Bergie did in his artcile in the Dec MR. He used chalks, and I like the way he did it. It'll be my first weathering project, so I can't wait to get started.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by RDLkrbyvllRR Hello, everybody. Gone less than 24 hrs, and it seems like a week. CP5415: That's alot of celebrations/memories you have. Didn't think we were gonna mention deaths or other's birthday's. So, since you spoke first, here's an update. Dec. 3 is my second cousins birthday, Dec. 23 is the 7th anniversary of my grandma's death (my mom's mother), and the first anniversary of my 1st cousins death. So, looks like we have things in common. Hope bringing this topic up, didn't upset anybody. TTFN, Erdle
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QUOTE: Originally posted by luct Thank you Christopher, it is on my wish list, I saw an advert for a brass model in the $4000 to $5000 range. Not in my budget for now. BTW this place is addictive....
QUOTE: Erdle: As for the gifts. All I got was a radio, and Madden NFL 2004. They let me pick my presents, anyway. That's all I wanted.
QUOTE: Originally posted by philnrunt Now for something sad- I bought 11 4x8 1 1/2 " thick styrofoam sheets last week, but will any of them be used for a new layout? Nooooooo, believe it or not, some maniac discovered that they can also be used as- are you ready for this- INSULATION! And unfortunately, that is this foams fate. Breaks your hearts, dosn't it?