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Posted by GDRMCo on Saturday, December 4, 2004 7:20 AM
Hello. read my post.

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Posted by fec153 on Saturday, December 4, 2004 7:16 AM
CP5415 - Fergie- Try driving in Miami {Cubaville}. First one to blow horn at intersection has right of way .
Here in mid-Fla., all the OLD snow-birds are back. No signals, either at snail pace in left lane or going like bat out of hell. And on [censored][censored][censored] cellphones.
GGRRRRRRRRRRRR.
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Posted by lupo on Saturday, December 4, 2004 7:12 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by der5997

Ed and lupo
QUOTE: Lupo, isn’t your Sinter Klas really the origin for our Santa Klaus? What is the occasion that brings a visit from him this early in December? By the way, down here in Mexico, the kids don’t expect presents from Santa Claus on the 25th. They get their gifts on Jan 6th, 12th Night or Epiphany, (Dia de los Reyes Magos, or loosely translated as Day of the Wise Men).

Is "Chris Cringle (aka Khris Kringle?) the same chap? Also I seem to remember that Jan 6th is the "Old Christmas" that is the date the Orthodox Church celebrates Christmas. Interesting that Mexico would keep that memory alive.[%-)]



Morning !
I did some checking and santa and sinterklaas is the same. He was actually a roman catholic bishop from Turkey who died on december 6 343 wich we memorate, so . . .
imo the question should be why are you celebrating so late!

some more info on this guy:
http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~erik/sint/sint.html#english

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In the fourth century a.d. St. Nicholas (in dutch called "Sinterklaas" or "Sint Nicolaas"; in german called "Sankt Nikolaus") was the bishop of Myra, which is now situated in Turkey. According to the legend, he saved his town from starvation. He is also said to have revived three dead children, and to have offered gifts of dowries to poor girls. Some sources say that he died on the sixth of December in 343. In 1087 his relics were taken to Bari in Italy. It is unclear why, according to the Dutch tradition, he comes from Spain. Possibly it has something to do with the fact that St. Nicholas was the patron of sailors. In the 17th century Holland was famous for its navigation. Maybe by contact with Spanish sailors this myth began. It could also explain why St. Nicholas has "zwarte (black) pieten" to help him because the Moors dominated Spain for several hundreds of years. (Another [more popular] explanation for "zwarte piet" being black is that he has come down the chimneys so often [see below] that he can't wa***he dirt off.)
His legendary gifts of dowries to poor girls led to the custom of giving gifts to children on the eve of his feast day, 6 December. The companions of St. Nicholas (in Germany and Austria they are called "Knecht Ruprecht" or "Krampus") show the victory over evil. Together with his "pieten" he visits children to puni***he evil ones and to reward the good ones. The worst punishment is to be taken to Spain in "zwarte piet's" bag out of which the good children get the sweets (called "pepernoten", "taai-taai", or "schuimpjes") and presents. A less radical punishment is to get the "roede" (rod) instead of presents. Nowadays there are not much evil children any more...

A few weeks before his feastday St. Nicholas comes to Holland (and Belgium) on his steamer with all his "pieten" and the presents which they prepared in Spain during the year. This event can be seen on Dutch television. From his arrival in Holland till his feastday the children can put their shoes in front of the fireplace. During the night St. Nicholas visits all the houses by travelling over the roofs on his horse, traditionally a white/grey (called "Schimmel" in dutch), and "zwarte piet" enters the houses through the chimney to put little presents in the children's shoes. Sometimes the children put straw, carrots and water near the shoe for the horse.

On the eve of his feast day St. Nicholas visits all children. After knocking on the door he gives them a bag full of presents (if they were good children). Early in the morning of 6 December, when he has visited everyone, he leaves and goes back silently to Spain, to come back next year.




Fergie thanks for the wise words [tup]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 4, 2004 4:00 AM
Good morning everyone;

It is a nice crisp morning with the mercury at about 30. This darn coffee is cold!!! There should a warning label [:D]

I've check the lottery numbers [|(] and I must get ready for work.

Hope you all have a Wonderful cheery day.

Exercise for today: try to imagine a wolrd without trains......
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Saturday, December 4, 2004 1:13 AM
Ed, sawdust morning, noon and night!!! It's all good.[swg]

As long as everyone else is talking about it, I find the holidays a very difficult time. The day after Christmas, will be 16 years since my mother died. I swear she actually died a few hours earlier, on Christmas day, but the hospital didn't have the heart to tell us.

As if that isn't enough, it was the beginning of December two years ago, that my wife announced that she wanted a divorce.

On a much happier note, today marks the one year anniversary of my joining the forum. All things considered, it has been a pretty good year. It has definately passed quickly, and has been a lot of fun sharing it with all of you!!![^][8D][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 10:14 PM
Here's another joke for you: Why couldn't the tunnel workers go to the dance?

I'll tell you the answer tomorrow. If someone gets it, you win a prize. 1,000,000 dollars....of RR dollars.[:D][(-D]

There are some of you who probably have heard all of these jokes.

Gotta go, almost time for me to go to [zzz]

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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Friday, December 3, 2004 10:11 PM
Ferg, you are the man! What a great post!
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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Friday, December 3, 2004 10:01 PM
Ferg, you've captured it, friend. Very nicely put.

BTW, thanks to all of you for this wonderful forum. It really is great place. I can't tell you how much I appreciate this thread.

Even if my hands are shaking because there's no decaf... [:D]
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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:59 PM
Robert,

I heard it. [:D]

Lawrence
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Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by luct

QUOTE: That is a very beatiful steamer photo in your sig., what is it, a Royal Hudson?


cmj89, it is indeed a Royal Hudson. I wish could find an affordable one.... [sigh]


Good Evening Luc

I was in George's today and he had a CPR 4-6-4 2839 by Mehano on hand. I'm sure I could sit there and pick it apart but....... It still was a very nice and respectful engine when all said and done.

I can't afford a brass version so the Mehano would do nicely alongside the Genesis, LL Heritage, Rivarossi and BLI. And do you know what? It will hold it's own.

As far as anniversaries go I've had my share of nasties, none that I care to share at this time but I will say this with certainty:

Time will heel all wounds.

Remember the good times for they are for keeps and the bad will eventually be distant glimpses, and through these bad times we will survive and become stronger by living through them, not around them.

If we hold dear what was good about those who have passed before us, not only do we keep their memory alive but also better yet we pay our forbearers the deepest respect owed.

A tear shed is not a sign of weakness but rather the highest respect we can show for those who have gone before us and whom we have loved, cherished and held dearest.

Gordon respect the past and live the present to the fullest!

Sorry for getting philosophical guys but...

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959

If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007  

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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:52 PM
On the point of bottling things up--this has been a rough fall. Two uncles died, along with one of my closest historian friends. UGH! I find that I am taking a lot more TIME with my wife and kids. And spending more time enjoying the things that I like-like trains! After all, why not spend 45 minutes waiting for and then watching a train come by in a particularly beloved spot? Why not? It's taken me a LONG time to learn that lesson. But I think I've finally learned it.
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Posted by der5997 on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:52 PM
Paul
QUOTE: Der; Ground Up??? You mean you don't chew them and drink hot water as a chaser? How unusual.
Hot Water? so much to learn, so little time[(-D]
Lawrence:
QUOTE: Paul, you are a better man than I (to quote the Yardbirds).

..and Rudyard Kippling, before them, "You're a better man than I am Gunga Din" from a totally politically incorrect poem by the same name. (Thanks again to John Bartlett's awesome book of quotations[8D])
Noah:
QUOTE: I'm also going to weather it like Bergie did in his artcile in the Dec MR. He used chalks, and I like the way he did it. It'll be my first weathering project, so I can't wait to get started.

Haven't seen that article, but if he doesn't tell you to dullcote the model before dusting on the chalk, do so. Otherwise the chalk will all but disappear when you do dullcote it to fix the chalk after the weathering job . I'm passing on the advice I was given on one of the forum threads when I asked about what had happened when I dull coted my first chalk weathering job [sigh]
Ed and lupo
QUOTE: Lupo, isn’t your Sinter Klas really the origin for our Santa Klaus? What is the occasion that brings a visit from him this early in December? By the way, down here in Mexico, the kids don’t expect presents from Santa Claus on the 25th. They get their gifts on Jan 6th, 12th Night or Epiphany, (Dia de los Reyes Magos, or loosely translated as Day of the Wise Men).

Is "Chris Cringle (aka Khris Kringle?) the same chap? Also I seem to remember that Jan 6th is the "Old Christmas" that is the date the Orthodox Church celebrates Christmas. Interesting that Mexico would keep that memory alive.[%-)]

So' I'm typing all this and a voice from below say's "Dear, since I'm clearing out the dishwasher, and the mugs are all clean, wouldn't it be a good idea to change over to the Christmas ones?"
And where are these festive flagons? I hear you anxiously ask. Why, in a box in the attic of course, where it is currently freezing, and on top of that it's 11:00p.m.; and the steps to get up into the attic are in the basement, which in our house is down a very steep set of steps, beneath a hatch that has to be propped up with a chair when it's opened.
Now, quick question for all you batchelors out there. What do you reply to Kris' question?
I'm asking you batchelors because the married men already know.[;)]
Answers please on single sheets, double spaced.[:-,][(-D]

Way past bedtime. Gotta go.
Goodnight, and God Bless.

"There are always alternatives, Captain" - Spock.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:43 PM
CP5415 (aka Gordon): You are right. Bottling things like that up inside hurts you worse, than, talking about it. We may want to forget about it. But, it's something we all face. The best way to deal with it, is to remember the good times. It's kinda like a steam engine. If it didn't let off steam, it's boiler will blow. Or something close to that. Last year (2003) was really tough on my family. We probably went to 6 or 7 funerals, two in one week. I had a 2nd cousin, 1st cousin ( as mentioned earlier), My mom's best friend, another friend, and a few others. We've been to a few this year. So, it's been tough around here the last couple of years. Forget the past, look to the future, do it all today. Let's get [#offtopic]

Here's something to ponder. If a locomotive blow it's whistle, and no one's around, does it make a sound?[?]

TTFN, Erdle, or, RDL
(Oh, by the way, RDL is an acronym of my full name, Robert Davis Leavings).

Just thought I'd tell, ya'll

I want to say to all the newbies out there,[#welcome]
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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:35 PM
Oh, what a night! My daughter and I went to the LHS before picking up her brother from a choir performance. We looked at some kits; I offered to buy her one. Her response: "Well, we'll have to repaint it, that really isn't a good brunswick green. It's too light."

Now, granted, the car was not meant to be brunswick green. But she is thinking in the right categories. Kids are the best! Another Pennsy Hoosier on the way![:D]
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Posted by CP5415 on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RDLkrbyvllRR

Hello, everybody. Gone less than 24 hrs, and it seems like a week.

CP5415: That's alot of celebrations/memories you have. Didn't think we were gonna mention deaths or other's birthday's. So, since you spoke first, here's an update. Dec. 3 is my second cousins birthday, Dec. 23 is the 7th anniversary of my grandma's death (my mom's mother), and the first anniversary of my 1st cousins death. So, looks like we have things in common. Hope bringing this topic up, didn't upset anybody.




TTFN, Erdle


I was relucant about bringing it up but I was at a seminar not to long ago on how to deal with negative events such as the ones I've had this year & previous & the speaker was right!
You can't keep things like that bottled up inside, it will only make you sick, & it has made me sick. Both mentally & physically.
The more I talk about those events , the better I feel about those events in my life & I feel better as a person.

Gordon

Brought to you by the letters C.P.R. as well as D&H!

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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Friday, December 3, 2004 7:34 PM
RDL; That's a good one, really got me chuckling.

Teffy Who? Glad to have you back Bob. Sounds like we have a chance to get a jump on Ed.

Luct; The picture showed up fine on my puter. It is a fine looking machine. Hope that you get things figured out soon and get it back on. Is there any chance of bashing one on an available 4-6-4? Just a thought.

Joe; Where abouts in south Texas? I'm in north Texas,west of Ft. Worth in Parker county. I know how you feel. I'm a Milwaukee Road, C.N.W., DMIR fan myself.

Mary Ann just stuck her head in and handed me a cup of hot chocolate. Mummmmm Good!!!!! We took the newer truck in for a brake job this morning. I drove the older diesel with no heater so we could get our chaseing done. There was frost on the winsheld and my fingers were soooooo cold by the time I got to the brake shop to pick her up. It was much warmer this evening when we picked it up. Just $518 later makes a big differance in the temp out side. Figure that one out.

We did get some pecans picked this afternoon. I dropped the leaf blower off to get it fixed. If you can get the leaves blown off it is much easyer to pick. With all the nuts on the ground picking can be almost fun. When there arn't many it gets boreing.

Mummmm that hot chocolate is good.

Well I did get another load of stuff out of the basement. Part of it went to the upstairs of the barn and part to the back of the PU for disposal. Tomomrow I'm going to try some foam on that hill. I may also try running something to keep my interest alive.

Paul

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 6:59 PM
egmurphy: I have to renew my subscription to MR. The radio cost 5 bucks, MR 40. I'm trying to save some money so I can add more memory to my computer. And, to by a handheld scanner. Don't worry, I'm going to renew MR. You got 40 bucks. Just kidding, 20 bucks will be fine. Were you talking to me. I thought my name was, Erdle, not iirc. As for my comment about, "Do UP trains in San Antonio actually run on rails", there have been several derailments around San Antonio in the past year. Not just UP, but, a few BNSF trains have crashed.

Noah: Pure me a cup of cap. It sounds good to me.

JPM335: What's the deal in San Antonio. No insult intended on my part, by the comment. It's just what I've heard on the news.

Oh, and the company I mentioned earlier. They are real signs, not scale signs. Wanted to let you know, before ya'll started salivating about custom scale signs.

One more thing. Being in here makes me want to clean out my trainroom, and start another layout. Can I get any volunteers to help me cleanup.[#dots][;)]
[dinner] will be provided. What ever you bring.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 6:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by luct

Thank you Christopher, it is on my wish list, I saw an advert for a brass model in the $4000 to $5000 range. Not in my budget for now.

BTW this place is addictive....


It's the caffeine, I tell ya!![:D][:D]

$4000-$5000??? WOW, and I thought $1,500 was a hefty price for brass!
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Posted by egmurphy on Friday, December 3, 2004 6:21 PM
Good Evening Coffee Clubbers

The weather has continued pretty good down here today. I do have the a/c cranked back up again, but I’m hopeful I can turn it off again tonight. We’ll see. Outside lights got postponed until tomorrow. Looks like the layout will have to go up against the wall for the balance of the Christmas season after all [:(] . The tree is in a different location, but the layout seriously interfered with other interior decorations. In view of the total lack of progress that I have demonstrated over the past couple of weeks I figured that discretion was the better part of valor in this issue [:)] . Okay, Teffy, there’s an opening for you. My hands are temporarily tied.

On the non-railroad front, I just spoke to the service dept at the car shop. The car has been in since Tuesday for a misc shopping list of repairs, the most important of which was a failed booster on the power brakes [:0] . The part wasn’t available in stock here, so they had to order from the GMC distributor in Mexico City. The part just arrived today. With luck I could have the car back by noon tomorrow. However if all goes as normal, it will be Monday. Bummer. It’s not as bad as being without a car in the U.S., but it’s still a major pita.

Okay, on to post comment responses, or is that responses to post comments, or posting responses to comments in posts, whatever………


Lupo, isn’t your Sinter Klas really the origin for our Santa Klaus? What is the occasion that brings a visit from him this early in December? By the way, down here in Mexico, the kids don’t expect presents from Santa Claus on the 25th. They get their gifts on Jan 6th, 12th Night or Epiphany, (Dia de los Reyes Magos, or loosely translated as Day of the Wise Men).


Luc – your photo of the Royal Hudson showed up okay on my screen, maybe 2-1/2” – 3” wide.


JP – a trip to San Antonio sounds great. It’s a nice city to wander around in after hours. They have a great River Walk full of good restaurants and small shops. Should be all lit up for the season by now. I’m pretty sure there is at least one very good hobby shop there also. And, iirc, Joe (jpm335) lives in San Antonio. You might want to try to get in touch with him for the local scoop if you make the trip. Absolutely some of the best Tex-Mex food you’ll find anywhere.


Noah – glad you’re finding some time on the weekends to keep your hand in on modeling. I’m still a week away from seeing the December issue. I’m interested in seeing this article on weathering with chalks. It’s one of many skills that I still have to try my hand at.


QUOTE: Erdle: As for the gifts. All I got was a radio, and Madden NFL 2004. They let me pick my presents, anyway. That's all I wanted.

Seeing as it’s only three weeks to Christmas, that’s pretty good for a birthday haul. Should’ve gone for a subscription to MR instead of the radio………………. [;)]


Okay Elliot, progress on benchwork is always satisfying. It tends to go fast and you can see the results. Plus I love the smell of sawdust in the morning……….


Well it's the weekend. At least that's what the calendar tells me. When you're retired the days kind of run together. Dinner should be ready soon. I'll catch you later.

Ed


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 6:10 PM
Thank you Christopher, it is on my wish list, I saw an advert for a brass model in the $4000 to $5000 range. Not in my budget for now.

BTW this place is addictive....
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:57 PM
Tom:

Here's a link you might enjoy, whoever made the page was right, 1966 Rancheros are some of the prettiest cars out there:
www.fordfalcons.com/latemodel/1966ranch.htm

Also, weren't there 429 Boss engines (they called the semi-hemi's i think), as well as a 460 truck engine? Do you know anything about them?

I also think Ford once teamed up with GE or Alco to make a rr switcher engine, but I don't know anything about it.

Luct:
That's the problem when you like the steam engines of any road other than NYC, Pennsylvania, or UP, you can't get any prototype-specific engines in plastic.[B)]

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Posted by Noah Hofrichter on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:55 PM
Erdle, I belive there's a little decaf left, but we don't use it much, so it my be in the way, way back of the store room......... Personally, I make cappuccino for myself, in my opinion you can't beat it!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:51 PM
Lawrence, thanks for the 4-1-1. I don't have any pictures as of yet. Just wanted to know, for when I did.

T..W..100: Check this out. I once found a slotcar that went to an electric racecar set. It was in a dump, in it's original package, unopened. Cost, FREE! FREE! FREE![8D] It worked perfectly. Why couldn't it have been train related.

Can we start serving, DECAF?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:50 PM
not much going to get done on the layout this weekend. Im leaving to go camping in a few minutes. see you sunday night
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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:27 PM
By the way, I know what Erdle means, this place can be addicting!!!!!!!!! [^]
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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:26 PM
Erdle, you'll need to get a free account on the internet to which you can save your pictures. (I use imagecave, but there are MANY others.) Then once you upload your pics to that site, you'll embed a link to the site of the photo at the place where it is saved. On my signature, right click on either the K4 or the PRR logo (will I have to pay for this soon?), and it will show you where it is housed.

If this makes no sense, email me and I'll work with you.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by philnrunt

Now for something sad- I bought 11 4x8 1 1/2 " thick styrofoam sheets last week, but will any of them be used for a new layout? Nooooooo, believe it or not, some maniac discovered that they can also be used as- are you ready for this- INSULATION! And unfortunately, that is this foams fate. Breaks your hearts, dosn't it?






Oh Yeah, i got luckky just before I built my layout. A fast moving truck lost about 1/4 of a load of 1/4 inch foam in one of our alfalfa fields. All the foam I could ever use for
[8D]FREE[8D]. I guess it wasn't worth much to him, but I could sure use it!


RDL: Gotta be the coffee.[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:13 PM
Elliot: I'm hooked. Don't know if it's the forum, or the caffeine?

Guys, one more thing. How do I add a picture to a post? For you jokesters out there, I know with nails. I'm talking about the posts in this forum.

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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:13 PM
Luct, no need to apologize. And I now realize I miss the Royal Hudson. What a beautiful machine.

[#welcome] BACK Teffy. Good to see you!

Will write more later. Am in the midst of the PennsyHoosier Child Shuttle Service right now. [:)][:P]
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:07 PM
RDL, if you are suffering from forum withdrawl after less than 24 hours of downtime, you are definately HOOKED. That was quick.[swg]

Hey guys, Gary A came over as planned. After quick tour upstairs, I gave him the royal tour of the trainroom. We spent the last hour of his visit working on building a floor section. I came away with the impression that he liked the project. By the end, we had tenative date of a week from Monday set as the next session. I told him, if he knew of anyone else that would be interested, to let them know, or even bring them along.

This train is leaving the station!!!!![:D]

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