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Can you ever have too much rolling stock?

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Posted by JOHN WEST on Thursday, March 5, 2020 11:24 PM
I have well over 1000 pieces of rolling stock that I have been collecting since 1989. I continue to purchase more pieces anytime I see something the peeks my interest. I only have room for a 4 X 8 layout in the house I have lived in these past 30 years. I have changed the layout about 8 or 9 times over that time to give me something to work on. My work hours at my job in health care does not allow me much free time and what free time I do have is spent with my family. Obviously I can only use a small portion of my rolling stock at any given time. The rest stay inside their original packaging until I decide to use them. Truthfully over half of these cars have never been out of their boxes. My reasons may be unsound but I have been waiting for my retirement which will be 5 years from November of this year. At that time I will look for a new place to live, hopefully in a warmer climate that has a large space for my dream layout. My job allows me sufficient money to indulge myself with new cars anytime I see something I desire. My reasoning for collecting so many cars over these years has two main factors. First I knew that over time the price of cars was going to get ever more expensive. I saw this coming when almost everything was turing into ready to roll rather then the kits I use to buy for under five dollars. Now days they make these super detailed cars that can cost over $100 per car. The least expensive cars with much less detail can be purchased for around $20. Even when you go to swap meets or train shows the prices of used cars can still be expensive. So these past 30 years or so I have mainly been a collector rather than a modeler. Second when I do retire and find a place to build my dream layout I may find out that I will not need many of the cars I've collected over the years. At that time I will decide to sell the ones that do not fit the type of layout I will build which is still an evolving project for me. Guess I am one of those armchair modelers you could say, however I enjoy every car I buy even if it stays in the box. I will not say how many locomotives I have acquired over the last 30 years.
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Posted by ef3 yellowjacket on Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:34 AM

I might suppose how you define the word "collector".  I have a lot of rolling stock, but find myself constantly up-grading my buying.  An example of this woiuld be I have a lot of Athearn rolling stock, but will possibly never run it again.  In the process of "collecting" (I do not consider myself a collector), I have changed my likes to kits such as Funaro and Camerlengo, Tichy, Branchline, Intermountain and Red Caboose (if you can find those two) kits, etc, etc.. 

I do not consider my self in any way a snob; I just am constantly improving what I have.  I get a great deal of enjoyment out of the challenge of building a "hard" kit, and wouldn't part with that feeling for the world.

My layout is in the process of being rebuilt, but will I run the Athearn stuff again?  Probably, although I, like others, will reach a point where I will cull out my "collection" (menage) to what appeals to me individually, and the Athearn Roundhouse, etc level of product will have to go, and that will be soon, I am sure.

One observation might be that one might get more enjoyment out of watching a string of higher level models behind a small engine, and one might just get as much out of that as the rest.   The naked ape is, after all, a unique beask.

 

Yellowjacket EF3 

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Posted by Chartiers on Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:31 AM

My neighbor across the street recently died suddenly.  Relatives descended on the house to get what they wanted but the vast majority of my neighbor's hobby and collection of stuff was simply dumped in the trash. 

Something to think about when you have way too much stuff.  Jim

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Posted by aloco on Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:10 AM

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Posted by aloco on Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:10 AM

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Posted by BHirschi on Friday, April 10, 2009 7:18 PM

For those of us modeling on a budget, the question answers itself. There may be lots of stuff out there we want, but we have to focus on what we can afford.

I'm in the process of building a small sectional layout (6x12) based loosely on the Seaboard Coast Line's Jacksonville Subdivision circa late 1970. If I can ultimately reach a fleet of 100-150 freight cars, 20-25 passenger cars, 15-20 freight locos and two passenger locos, I'll be a happy camper, and will have more than enough equipment to keep a steady and varied flow of trains running on my layout.

Of course, if I ever win the Powerball, all bets are off!

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Posted by markpierce on Friday, April 10, 2009 5:02 PM

Yes, I have too many freight cars, but I need more.

The planned layout has a capacity of 100 to 120 cars.  I recently took an inventory of unbuilt and built freight cars and found I have about 160 on hand, and am still accumulating.  Nevertheless, my goal includes having more cars than the layout's capacity so I can rotate rolling stock on/off the layout for variety, especially for the "oddballs."

I need more single-sheathed box cars as well as some NP and SP&S box cars to fill in the "holes" so the car pool will be representative of the period and place being modeled.

I do have too many flat cars and tank cars, too many foreign non-box cars (in my modeled era and location, foreign cars consist of 90% box cars), one duplicate car, and a small number of out-of-era cars.  I've already donated some to a local club and will donate more and make as gifts another 30 cars so someone can make better use of them.

Anyway, taking the inventory was a useful tool in creating a "rational" car fleet.

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Posted by fireman216 on Friday, April 10, 2009 4:45 PM

 We have a guy in my club that does nothing more than build car kits...all to exact NMRA standards...he has somewhere catalogged 3-5 thousand pieces of rolling stock...no duplicate #'s anywhere...and about 1000 pieces of motive...most sound and dcc equipped...don't forget the passenger sets...too many....all with no home layout....I always joke about the fact he could model North Platte...

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Friday, April 10, 2009 11:37 AM

Of course you can.  That's part of the fun of this hobby. 

If you're not a pack rat take up golf.  Big Smile

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Posted by tstage on Friday, April 10, 2009 11:36 AM

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes, you can.

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Posted by johncolley on Friday, April 10, 2009 11:31 AM

Agreed, Andy, One can have closets full of cars, if that's what he wants, but any yard that is between 50% and 70% loaded is clogged beyond its usefull capacity. A yard is for classifying cars and getting trains out, and for that it must remain fluid! John Colley, Port Townsend, WA

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Posted by IVRW on Friday, April 10, 2009 10:56 AM
I think that, as long as you implement a system where all the cars you have get rotated, you can never have to many cars. However, if you have more cars than you can or want to rotate, you have reached your limit. Since I have a smaller layout [4x8 + 4x6 to make long L], I think it would be wiser/nicer/more pleasant to have less cars so you can get on a personal level with them [i.e. oh, that car was the first one I used an air brush on/ that was the first one I put a Kadee coupler on/ oh my, that boxcar kit fell apart at parsons point {switch}]

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Friday, April 10, 2009 10:44 AM

Penncentral

R. T. POTEET

Let me put it this way: if you have eight passing sidings on your layout and you can only run one train at a time because those sidings are all clogged with standing freight trains YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY TOO MUCH ROLLING STOCK!

Unless modeling a post merger meltdown. lol  Otherwise you are correct.

How right you are! How right you are!

On a trip through extreme West Texas in December, 1997--right after the Onion Specific acquired the Sufferin' Pathetic--I never saw one UP freight moving; I sure saw a lot of them sitting idly on sidings however. I was almost into Monahans before I ever saw a moving train.

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Posted by kog1027 on Friday, April 10, 2009 7:27 AM

I've currently got 11 locomotives and around 50 cars ( I don't keep an exact count to be honest. ) which were purchased to reflect the mix of equipment that I think my "proto-lance" early 70's layout would need.  That is, of course, tempered by my likes & dislikes as well.

Kits get built when bought, or shortly thereafter, as that is a large part of my "enjoyment" of the hobby.

My switching layout can comfortably accomodate about 25% of my equipment at any given time.  Cars get switched out and moved off to storage on a regular basis.

Every car gets on the layout and gets run.  No closet queens in my collection.  Every wheel is turned.

The question "Too much?" is answerable only on an individual basis.  Fortunately that is exactly how we as hobbyists are answering it.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Friday, April 10, 2009 7:00 AM

BRAKIE

R. T. POTEET

Let me put it this way: if you have eight passing sidings on your layout and you can only run one train at a time because those sidings are all clogged with standing freight trains YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY TOO MUCH ROLLING STOCK!

 

Or modeling a down turn economy and storing cars for a fee.Whistling

That would be another excuse for collecting according to some

Me? I'd be saying I'm modelling according to my prototype!! So there--HHAAARRRRUUUMPH!!Grumpy

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, April 10, 2009 6:48 AM

R. T. POTEET

Let me put it this way: if you have eight passing sidings on your layout and you can only run one train at a time because those sidings are all clogged with standing freight trains YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY TOO MUCH ROLLING STOCK!

 

Or modeling a down turn economy and storing cars for a fee.Whistling

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Posted by Penncentral on Friday, April 10, 2009 1:18 AM

R. T. POTEET

Let me put it this way: if you have eight passing sidings on your layout and you can only run one train at a time because those sidings are all clogged with standing freight trains YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY TOO MUCH ROLLING STOCK!

Unless modeling a post merger meltdown. lol  Otherwise you are correct.
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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Friday, April 10, 2009 12:57 AM

Let me put it this way: if you have eight passing sidings on your layout and you can only run one train at a time because those sidings are all clogged with standing freight trains YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY TOO MUCH ROLLING STOCK!

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Friday, April 10, 2009 12:53 AM

You mean you shouldn't be able to have all your cars on the layout, notch the loco up and realize that you don't have slack because the lead loco's front coupler is firmly pushing the rear coupler of the last car/caboose?

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:07 PM

Well…It’s the double edged sword sort of thing, I think.

 

The short answer is most likely NO…But then again, if you have so many that it requires numorius cyles to get them on the layout, than the answer may be a YES. Unless…You have unlimited funds, you really love collecting, it just doesn’t matter if a car only gets to the pike once a year (or less), or you have a REALLY BIG layout where you can actually run prototype length trains.

 

I say this because: My peddlers run 3 to 6 cars. My mainline freights can do (in conjunction with the size of the Trainroom, length of the sidings and the distance between modeled scenes on the layout) 12 maybe 14 cars.

 

Sooo…Do I need 400 + cars? The answer is NO! I have some for sale and (at least in my mind) the answer is yes! It is possible to have too many.

 

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Thursday, April 9, 2009 10:02 PM

What I see here is several people with a lack of control.

Last weekend I picked up an Athearn SD60I with sound.  Don't know why but it looks like it will consist with a couple of  AC6000's I have.

Since then I've decided that I'll order one of the upcoming MTH SD70Ace Loco's.  That will be the last and I really mean it this time Big Smile

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Posted by wholeman on Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:05 PM

hcc25rl

Simple answer, HELL NO!

 

Nice answer.

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Posted by citylimits on Thursday, April 9, 2009 8:57 PM

I think that there is possibly a very simple answer to this and it's no!  This is because I don't think it is for me to say if somebody's collection of stuff is too much.

But, here is where I will attempt to complicate the matterBig Smile

If a model train enthusiest has a big sky approach to his hobby with a budget to match, storage and family objections present no impediment and his collecting rational is - I buy everything I like - then that modeler/collector/enthusiast will never have too many models. If the opposite is true and his collecting has gotten away on him and this has become a personal concern, then it may be time to re-appraise your collecting rational - but, once again it's a matter of personal choice and circumstance.

My experience is that because I model one prototype road in a specific place and time, then those factors in themselves has the effect of detremining what models I buy. Not being keen on operation - more in the craft of building models and scenery then I don't have a problem now of aquiring more models than I need or want. Having said that, I believe that my roster of freight cars is weighted too heavily with home-road cars and I should really swap them out for cars that are more representitive of any given mixed freight drag.

Out of around fifteen locomotives - both steam and diesel - only three are not  what was used by my prototype - one is a Heisler, there is a two truck Shay and a V&T ten wheeler. These a from a time when I was going to include a logging scene on my layout, but I've changed that now to a harbor instead. 

Humpf, now I may have too many boatsSigh

BruceSmile

 

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Posted by john galt on Thursday, April 9, 2009 8:54 PM

1st off ...if you have too many rolling stock just send em to me.

2nd tim the toolman taylor rule of life "there is nothing to big that it cannot be made better by being made bigger"

3rd if I ever feel that I have too much rolling stock then bury me cause i must be dead

 

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Posted by Robby P. on Thursday, April 9, 2009 8:24 PM

I guess it depends on what you think is to much.  Me, well I only have several cars.  Thats due to money.  Now since I am working again, maybe I can build it up.

Now a buddy of mine has box, after box, after box of train stuff.  He has several metal cabinets full of engines/cars he hasn't even opened!!!!  Under his layout is the same, boxcars, tankers, etc not even opened.   I guess he likes to collect them.  

I think if you have that many not even opened and not used, well maybe its to much.  UNLESS you like to collect items like that.

 "Rust, whats not to love?"      

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Posted by gpa on Thursday, April 9, 2009 8:09 PM

I made a database to catalog all my rolling stock. I photographed and entered 150 cars into the database. I've since bought about 50 or 60 more. The big problem is building a respectable fleet of diverse cars. At first I was focused on getting enough box cars, then it was to 2-bay hoppers for cement, then I decided I needed alot of grain hoppers, now it's tank cars. I still have only a few gondolas and flat cars. Maybe I'll focus on those next.

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, April 9, 2009 7:59 PM

 Since getting back into the hobby I have bought for myself maybe 5% of all the loco's and rolling stock I own. Friends and family are responsible for the rest. I am thinking that I am starting get probably more than I really need. That being said, I will never say a word!!!! If you think I am going back to socks and underwear at Christmas!!!!!!! I will always have room for more.Wink

 

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Posted by hcc25rl on Thursday, April 9, 2009 7:57 PM

Simple answer, HELL NO!

 

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Thursday, April 9, 2009 7:13 PM

Packer
I've gone and done both, ... close to 120 cars and 27 engines, for having no layout.

Oh, a light-weight huh? Whistling

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Posted by carknocker1 on Thursday, April 9, 2009 7:12 PM

I used to think you can never have too many , but the older I get the more I realize I have too many locomotives and cars . I tend to run the same equipment everytime . Although I still buy new equipment I am just a lot more judicial about what I buy .

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