RailfanSPackers#1Hey railfan S, I remember you form the TAMR forums. great to see some more shots of your layout; how's the ballasting coming?Thanks for the welcome. Nice to see a familiar name Packers#1. Not too much has happened since the TAMR site went down.
Packers#1Hey railfan S, I remember you form the TAMR forums. great to see some more shots of your layout; how's the ballasting coming?
Yeah, we've got an interim site going, but no forum on it. I'll pm you a link here.
as to your layout, dern, you've been busy! looks good.
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Packer RailfanS, welcome. Nice BSB U33C and Executive SD70MAC. Are you a BN fan, and is your name Vincent too? I guessed the last part because of you're railroad's name.
RailfanS, welcome. Nice BSB U33C and Executive SD70MAC. Are you a BN fan, and is your name Vincent too? I guessed the last part because of you're railroad's name.
Thanks for the welcome. Nice to see a familiar name Packers#1. Not too much has happened since the TAMR site went down. Progress has slowed do to a supply shortage and a turntable that is difficult to assemble. I decided not to ballast anymore track until I cover the area with groundfoam up to the roadbed (so I don't have to reballast after I put down the foam). Once again getting to the nearest hobby shop isn't easy so I am still trying to get ground foam (this looks like a job for eBay!). Also the large turntable is giving me some difficulty because of unclear instructions that don't work the way they are suppose to on the model. As for the locomotives in the pictures I'm never too picky when it comes to roadnames. Usually I purchase a locomotive because of price or the model (I don't really like the UP, but when I found a great deal on an SD90/43MAC I bought it). However the BN SD70 was different. After seeing it at 3 shows in 2 years I paid almost full price for it the 4th time I saw it. I was very impressed with the BN Executive paint scheme. The reason I buy any roadname and it doesn’t matter is that as part of my freelance railroads' story the CVS (Cape Vincent Southern) just purchases locomotives other lines don't want and doesn’t repaint them to save money (this might sound familiar to some of you because I explained this at the TAMR forum too). As for the name Cape Vincent is my home town. My name is Jamie. Previously (3-4 years ago) the railroad, minus the layout, was named after me and I decided I didn't like it. Next week I will be posting pictures of our youth clubs’ trip to the local Model RR club in Watertown NY. This is awesome because if we bring our own locomotives and cars then we get to run them on the clubs modular layout (which is a little bigger than mine). Well that's all for now, check out the new storage shelf I put up at the end of the room opposite the layout, I'll post layout progress somewhere here for now until the TAMR site is back up...
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An SDP35 yard switcher? Well, I can see an SD38-2 (although Robby would kill me for saying that!) on a larger railroad, but on a small (75 miles total, on only one line!) shortline it would be way overkill. Any SD unit above the 26 series could handle almost any train on the railroad by itself (but all trains except for the local and yard job run with two locos) so a yard job would be a waste of money.
The yard only handles local traffic coming off the through trains to put on the locals; 7 or 8 cars max. I'm currently using an early Geep (a downgraded GP9m) to switch the yard with no trouble. I don't think I need an SDP35... And that long hood is a killer, it would be hard to see around, plus it would be incredibly ugly running long hood first with the squared back for the steam generator.
Sorry, don't have any CNW units to patch either...or GB&W Alcos for that matter. Although, I... DON'T EVEN START THINKING ABOUT BUYING MORE LOCOS!
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Packer Jordan, what other BN U30C are you talking about? I only have 1 U30C and 2 U33Cs (not here yet). The U30C I'm looking at is UP, the only reason being it has sound, and I could do a shell swap to get my U30C to have sound.
Jordan, what other BN U30C are you talking about? I only have 1 U30C and 2 U33Cs (not here yet). The U30C I'm looking at is UP, the only reason being it has sound, and I could do a shell swap to get my U30C to have sound.
Oh sorry. I thought that was a non sound U30C was BN.
Tyler, alright. I think that SDP35 would also make a good yard switcher.
Also, if you want some patched WIN locomotives, CNW GP30s, GP35s, and GP9s would work best. Umm GBW Alcos would work too, but in my history the WIN stored them pretty quick. That would be the power I think the WIN would be leasing. In 1993 there roster was mostly small Geeps from the CNW, and 3 SD40s. Around 1995 the WIN got SD45s, but they'd be using them on a regular basis and I don't think they'd want to be leasing them. In 2000 the WIN started buying SD40-2s. But pretty much anything will work; I can fit it in some how.
Oh, and one more note on the WIN. I think I'm going to replace the tunnel motors and SD45-2s I have painted, with SD40-2s. I'll just rule them out of the history as it'd be more plausible.
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I thought the L was since the frame was lengthened... And why would EMD make another long distance unit if they already had the E and F units for that?
Plus, the FL9s are notoriously underpowered. Long distance trains (and New York - Boston on the Merchant's Limited doesn't count!) would STILL be underpowered with two FL9s, but a pair of Es could handle it easily... Not exactly cost effective to have three units on one train if two could do it just as well and cheaper!
The battle of the FL9s...
The L stands for Long Distance. FL9's were extended FP9s. The third rail hardware was installed for the New Haven, because New Haven was the only company to purchase them. The New Haven had EMD construct the units with a smaller Steam Generator and used the extra space for the third rail hardware.
Alex
Alex: I though the FL9s were designed by EMD at the request of NH, which wanted a duel-mode diesel. But I could be wrong.
Jordan: Every single loco on the roster will be completely repainted, although I'm still looking at having a patched WIN locomotive. Maybe my ex-IC GP10? So I don't really need to worry about paint schemes.
And I could use another loco for helper service (maybe 1701 will get that duty if I get a replacement for it?) but I think I'll hold off for now...
Speaking of CSX and SD35s, BN got 3 of them rebuilt as SD38Ps. (out of 10, 3 were SLSF SD38-2s, 3 were southern SD35s, 1 was a WM SD35, and 3 were LN SD35s)
Vincent
Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....
2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.
Vincent, if you get that U30C, just hold onto that for a minute. I would like one more BN locomotive to go with my BN coal power. Since I bought a SD60M to match with my Oakway SD60, I wouldn't mind another BN locomotive. Although, once the SD60s came that bumped the U30Cs and C30-7s lower but...that U30C would look nice. I was thinking that or a SD40-2.
Tyler, you can never have enough locomotives! That UP SD24 would be nice for switching your yard, or maybe helper service...you can also chop it and rebuild it like the DMIR did with there SD7s and 9s...or be like the WC and keep them original.... Oh, and one more thing, I really think you should make your SDP35 into a L&N/Family Lines rebuilt SDP35. So far I notice a trend with your power paint schemes, and I don't think you quite notice this, but I'll tell you.
You have a Chessie GE unit. Chessie system didn't get made into CSX not to long ago. Your Chessie GE unit wouldn't be out of place if you model the late 80s-early/mid 90s, so that wouldn't need to be repainted. Your CSX GE unit would also not be to far off either. That paint scheme came out in the late 80s-early/mid 90s, I think, that wouldn't need to be repainted. Your Kodachrome GP30 wouldn't be out of place. The SPSF merger happened sometime around the late 80s. But I have seen Kodachrome paint locomotives in 1987-early/mid 90s, so that too wouldn't need to be repainted. Your UP SDP35 is a kicker, but I have a simpleish solution. You could make a few modifications to make it into an L&N/Family Lines SDP35 from the CSX. This would also fit the Late 80s-eraly/mid 90s time period...I think this would be better as the UP SDP35s didn't last long. But I found this photo of a CSX SDP35 in 1991.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=214770&nseq=10
RailfanS, I love the GN U33Cs!
Hey railfan S, I remember you form the TAMR forums. great to see some more shots of your layout; how's the ballasting coming?
I haven't been able to post pictures of my layout before so this is a test run...
This is of my EMD SD70Mac and U33C's on the east end of the layout.
TrainManTyFor those who don't know about FL9s, they have a 4-axle truck on the front and a 6-axle truck on the rear. This was needed to support the duel-mode third rail shoe pickups for operation into Grand Central Terminal.
FL9's were originally designed for long distance passenger service. They were designed with extra frame length, to accomodate a large steam generator and longer fuel tank, and reduce the need to refill fuel tanks and the steam gennies. A specialized 3-axle rear truck was placed under the extended car body, to support the extra weight of the larger steam genny.
New Haven was the ony buyer, and because none of their trains were long distance trains, they used the extra space for duel mode hardware, and mounted third rail shoes on the trucks.
I'm taking it the little guy in your head is in bold? How did you know what I was thinking?
Actually, I choose the UP one because my SF friends are still unhappy about my 2 SF GP30s I got that I swapped shells to get BN (tyler has one of the SF GP30s, the other ones shell went to washington to get swapped for a BN shell). I would have perfered getting the SF one, since I won't have to swap sideframes., but it's probably best not get them more riled up by doing the same to an SD24; might not get invited their operating sessions anymore. Now that you mention it, a UP SD24/SDP35 would look pretty good together.
Now if I get that U30C, what to do with that? Guess I could keep it and the SD24 as transfer engines.
I tried selling that SW9 on ebay for 20 bucks, 3 times. I think at that price, it's a steal since it runs and pulls well, and the only thing wrong with it is some glue spots around the all weather windows.
The little guy in my head is telling me to get several SD40-2s and another F45. I need more stuff like GP7/9s and RS3/11s and to finish my GP35, C424s, and SW1500s.
Well, a UP SD24 would match my UP SDP35 and would..NO! NO MORE LOCOS! STOP DOING THAT! YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE ENGINES! ...But what about when I replace 1701 once it gets repainted? NO! THAT WON'T BE FOR A LONG TIME! AND YOU PROMISED NO MORE ENGINES! Fine, but what about the SW9? It would.. NO!
...Sorry, that little guy inside my head was acting up again...
But the ATSF GP30 and PRR GP7 didn't come about from those 6. They came about from shell swapping to get sound-equipped engines.
I came out with a decent haul tonight on ebay. I got another BN SD24, and a UP SD24 with sound. So I'll swap the shells and front lightboards to get a BN SD24 with sound and have a UP SD24 left over. Now what to do with the UP SD24??? (and that NYC SW9 I still have sitting in a box because it didn't sell on ebay.)
Upon browsing ebay, I found a U30C with sound installed by Tony's train exchange. If I get that, it'll have the same fate as the UP SD24. (getting it's sound guts removed and put under BN units, and replaced with non-sound guts)
PackerTyler got one after a shell swap (was a SAL GP9 III, now an IC GP18).
Tyler got one after a shell swap (was a SAL GP9 III, now an IC GP18).
I've only seen one, and since I was standing 100 feet away to take this photo with a zoom lens (I actually cropped in pretty tight) I wasn't able to get a photo of the side with the trucks... Good ol' 487... Now on the Morristown & Erie/Maine Eastern.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1306539
GG, I know. Still is a pretty good deal for 2 DCC equipped engines and a caboose. I've found some deals because people weren't paying attention or didn't know what they were dealing with. Remeber when I got those 6 P2K engines for 80 bucks?
On those 6, I sold 2 NYC GP7s off locally, I sold the Chessie and B&O SW9s on ebay, Tyler got one after a shell swap (was a SAL GP9 III, now an IC GP18).I still have to get rid of the NYC SW9. Actually, I have a bunch of stuff I need to get rid of. (including a pair of B&M boxcars)
Well, my stomach has settled down quite a bit since yesterday. I found out the clock in my room sets itself to DST automatically, which is nice. Today I might make coal loads for 2 conrail hoppers I have.
Sounds like it's been pretty warm everywhere the last couple days. I wore shorts and a tshirt to practice today (had to) and then we went to the mall. I went to Dick's to get a new shaft for my stick. Defense sticks are supposed to be 6 foot, but mine was way shorter (I got it in 4th grade). It was pretty nice being able to wear shorts again. Now only if I could go barefoot...
BTW, I'll be around mostly on Sundays, since we don't have practice or games. Have fun MRRing!
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Hey, I'm back from a long sabbatical! The break wasn't my doing, but the musical just started picking up speed recently, so I wasn't able to work on my mrr for a week! I got some stuff done today, mostly the foundation for a bridge I am going to install, and some other assorted scenery.
It hit 70 in Chicago yesterday, and I walked home from school with no coat for the first time in 3 mos. Don't forget to set your clocks.
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TrainManTy Yup... It has been just way to cold downstairs to do anything on my layout, so I did this instead... http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1JDjBW8mPUzOEIBug7XGQw&gid=0
Yup...
It has been just way to cold downstairs to do anything on my layout, so I did this instead...
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1JDjBW8mPUzOEIBug7XGQw&gid=0
Cool! For me, it would be a NJT schedule (either M&E or M-B, they're both the same west of Denville), with H02 added on (and maybe occasionally a NS extra). There would also be NJT deadheads. On weekends, there's no service (Transit had kept putting it off), so there would be some NS stuff (not sure if H02 runs, but I've defenitely seen some stuff) and the X-Train(s) (NJT equipment move between Port Morris and the MMC in Kearny.
How much snow did you guys get on Monday? We started with 10". It was mostly gone yesterday; there's nothing left now. It hit 60 today :0 !!!!!
That's an SD35, not an SD24.
Well, I've had just about zero time lately, but I got some stuff done. I got more sidewalks done, almost finished up the track plan, and I did a little on my F40 project. The rear platform on the model was squared off, and the pilot was close to the end of the platform. While I was cutting off the rear a few weeks ago, the platform fell off (cut too much). But it worked out. I chopped the pilot off the platform. I sanded the corners of the platform off, so that they would be angled. I glued the pilot back on, closer to the front of where the platform was. I need styrene, paint, decals, LEDs, and couplers for the rest of the project, but that won't be for a while. I might work on it in the summer (I'll be down the shore, which means NO LAYOUT!!! :( so it will give me something to do). Pics for everything will come eventually (hopefully tomorrow!).
I don't know how much I'll be around till Memorial Day. Lacrosse started yesterday, and it's six days a week (we can't have practice on Sundays). School ends at 2:34, practice goes 2:45-5, takes 1/2 hour to get home, eat, do homework, sleep. Not much time, so don't expect to see too much of me around here.
We have the hockey banquet tomorrow morning. The team is going to Mass at 10:45, followed by brunch at noon.
I have three up them (the B&M box, and the 2 conrail hoppers) to par in terms of weight and metal wheels. The 2 NH boxcars are missing their coupler clips so I'm looking at cutting that off and using CA to attach a kadee pocket on them, since I don't have a drill and tap for 2-56 screws. The tank car needs weight and it'll be good to go. All the athearn boxcars need some undershank couplers since the coupler mounting is too low. I'd be done my now if I had a scale.
The amfleets, I don't know what I'm going to do with yet. I'll probably keep the one with the diapragms and add some weight to it; then sell of the others to buy some more with diagpragms. I'm hoping to get a Kato F40PH (since digitrax makes a sound decoder for it) and a few more amfleets and 1 or 2 MTH cars to make a good sized amtrak train. If I do that, it'll probably happen after I get my other projects finished.
I haven't done anything train related lately. I was planning to go to a friend's operating session after work today. But since I called work at 4am to tell them I was sick (upset stomach), I don't think I'll chance going over even though I'm feeling much better already.
Edit, I was borwsing ebay looking for a sound equipped SD24, I did find a few, but they are all UP or ATSF. I did find a non-sound BN one that I'm thinking of getting, since I don't have this number.
I did find this deal though: http://cgi.ebay.com/DDC-Equipped-Locos-ATLAS-CSX-SD-24-LIFE-LIKE-PRR-GP-9_W0QQitemZ220370876547QQcmdZViewItemQQptZModel_RR_Trains?hash=item220370876547&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Vincent: Yes, there is a transition between the cork and layout surface. I just haven't filled it in yet. Trains run fine and don't flex the track at all, so filling it in is less of a priority than getting the rest of the layout running again.
And how is the rolling stock I sent you running?
Ty, looking good so far. I have a couple of questions though;1. On the track leading to the tower by the station (1st and 2nd photo) is there a trasition between the cork and the layout surface? 2. Does the track in that area go through the middle of the road or off to the side?
OB, happy belated Bday.
Nothing new for me. I mooched of a friend's Walther's order for shipping. I got a BN box (can't remeber if it was a 60 or an 86 foot car) and a CNW covered hopper. Pics when those and my U33Cs get here.
Crap!! My entire post just got deleted! Here it goes again (in a much shorter form).
Tyler: Thanks! But I don't think there will be any progress any time soon because lacrosse starts tomorrow, and it's six days a week. The road and plow look great!
I don't know if anyone remembers my World History project that I did back in December (on Alexander the Great, and I used modeling techniques on the scenery). Well, I have another one, this time on the Middle Ages. I'm going to build a Medieval castle (I was thinking about a Cathedral, but it would be too complicated). I'll scratchbuild the structure from styrene, use model stuff for the scenery, and Realistic Water for the moat. Should be pretty cool.
Well I picked up 2 books from the LHS yesterday and boy am I impressed!
http://www.soeeborg.dk/books.html
Both are very complete, and I didn't expect them to be so complete! They are packed with detailed information, especially Done in a Day. There is an endless amount of information on weathering, and it is really easy too. I really recommend that you pick them up.
And Ty, the road looks good, and keep us posted on the plow!
Sounds like a good plan, Joe! Photos would be great once you've got some progress.
Here's the photos of the roads, a la Jordan's suggestion. It gives a pretty good image of where they will go.
Then last night when it was just too cold to do anything in the basement, I worked on a small project that I've been putting off; a new snowplow. My old one is a bit lobsided with lousy paint. It was my first scratchbuilding project, so what did you expect?
The new plow is built from an old 40' bulkhead flatcar I had on hand. I'm going to add a (non-working) headlight, possibly ice breakers, and if I'm feeling really ambitious, non-operating "wings" like on a Jordan Spreader...
Here it is unpainted (it will be black and yellow) and unfinished (still need to add a lot, plus trim parts of the plow) next to the old plow.