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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:47 AM

 Good morning.

It's 49 and clear. The high should be around 80 and partly cloudy though it may be blustery around some polling places.

I got a package in the mail yesterday that contained two Athearn SDP40F Amtrak locos and bits and pieces of various rolling stock. I'm sure I'll be able to make use of most of it.

Today's Weather for:
Sundown, LA  71446-6114      11/4/2008


Wind Chill:  48°F
Humidity:  88%
Dew Point:  45°F

So Far Today
High:  52°F
Low:  48°F
Rain:  0.00"
Rain Rate:  0.00"/h
Gust:  0mph NNE

Today  High: 78    Mostly sunny early in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Patchy fog early in the morning. Highs in the upper 70s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.

Tonight  Low: 55    Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. South winds around 5 mph.



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Posted by Packer on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:39 AM

Just checking in before I'm off to college.

Jeff: Nice SDF40F.

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:49 AM

Good morning....

Jeff.... I recall Santa Fe bought those big Amrak engines second hand and modifed them for freight service. I said that becasue it might be an idea for your private road unless you are planning to add Amtrak trains to your layout.

I plan to work some more on my layout extension this afternoon.

Cheers everybody

 

GARRY

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Posted by pcarrell on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:51 AM

Packers#1
......because there's no school tommorow here in the USA because of the election.

Kids around here have school.

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:02 AM

Jeff, nice SDP, I use to have one just like it, LOL!  FYI; The prototype did not use the front hand rails

Der John; did you get your envelope?

Rob, are you still looking for a HO-Scale caboose for your circus train?  Oh and my LHS has 4 Life-Like Combined Circus passenger type cars for sale if your interested.

Lee

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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:06 AM

pcarrell

Packers#1
......because there's no school tommorow here in the USA because of the election.

Kids around here have school.

  Kids have school here too. Maybe it was a joke or a prank possibly.....

- Luke

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Posted by Cox 47 on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:31 AM

If You Havn't already get out and vote!

Good Morning All....Its sunny and 61 here this morning..Yesterday was a great day and today looks like more of the same..Weather guesser says weather will tank out this week-end...I'll have toast and coffee this morning..please...Thank You

I picked up a copy of Great Model Railroad 2009 yesterday down at the little store...Lots of nice layouts..The N scale Monon is my favorite but they are all good..My reading is behind have GMR,new MR and Trains all to read..Gotta get started painting HO kitbash have all the cutting and glueing done..

You all have a good one...Jerry

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:16 AM

Heartland Division CB&Q
Jeff.... I recall Santa Fe bought those big Amrak engines second hand and modifed them for freight service. I said that becasue it might be an idea for your private road unless you are planning to add Amtrak trains to your layout.

No, I don't intend to run an Amtrak train. It will instead be a patched unit and it's mate will be a shop queen.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:58 AM

Flashwave

Happy thankgiving guys. Have fun with this:

http://www.southbank-design.co.uk/turkeyshoot/index.htm 

(No digtal turkeys felt pain in this exercise. Death was swift)

LMAO, love that game!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:04 AM

New Haven I-5

pcarrell

Packers#1
......because there's no school tommorow here in the USA because of the election.

Kids around here have school.

  Kids have school here too. Maybe it was a joke or a prank possibly.....

Nah, it ain't, because the teachers were talking about it.

Sawyer Berry

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:13 AM

Good Morning/Lunchtime, Zoe. Gee, there must've been some chowhounds in last night, from all the trash in the dumpster out back. Oh, PC was buying dinner? No wonder! Sorry I missed it! Oh, I'll have one of those cheddar cheeseburgers and a Dr. Pepper, please. Thanks!

Looks like several of you have been busy with MRR'ing lately. I'll have to catch up, even if it's just to put together a building kit, so I'm not completely without anything to talk about. Wink

My MRR club time last night was spent doing a section of track for one of the few remaining sidings to be laid (on the bare plywood). It comes from the passing track at the end of the intermodal yard area, and continues past to what will eventually be other industries. Had to solder two pieces of track together before I could nail it down (and unsoldered two feeder wires from the sides first). Then we had a business meeting and by the time that was done it was almost time to go home. We won't have to spend much of any more funds to be able to get things wired up and ready to run trains (before we get to scenery). We have enough Digitrax boosters, enough wire for the buss lines and for feeder wires to be put in, and one of the members (who hasn't built his layout yet) donated some of his engines (more modern diesels) for the club - I think some Athearn Genesis SD70's(MAC?) and even a SW900/1200 (P2K). In exchange, we agreed to come help him once he gets ready to start his layout. I think he's still negotiating property and trackage rights in his basement with his CFO...Whistling

Found out late yesterday afternoon that my former co-worker in crisis is gone (not sure if fired or left on her own). That was a big surprise for us. Sometimes management isn't highly communicative about these things. I doubt that she was behind on paperwork, and they'd been prepping her to see more kids starting this month, which was why this was totally unexpected. I'm hoping for her sake that she got a better offer somewhere else (local hospital, etc.), since she's the one who just got married and has several kids at home. Sigh

Got my MRR order in last night at the meeting, including my EMD 567 kit and transformer kit, so maybe I can get started on putting those together....Also got a Rix grain elevator and some W-S figures, as well as the Durango Press mining details set.

I'll be chowing down in the window booth for now. Hope everybody gets out and votes today. Our line at my voting place wasn't as bad as I'd expected; quick in and out. Took about as long to get a parking spot as to get in and vote.

 

Blessings,

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:47 AM
The EMD SDP40F was a 6-axle diesel locomotive built by General Motors Electro-Motive Division from 1973 for Amtrak service. Power was provided by an EMD 645E3 16-cylinder diesel engine, which generated 3000 tractive horsepower (2240 kW).These locomotives were Amtrak's first series of locomotives built new. Amtrak acquired 150 of them over a two year period. They were based on a standard freight locomotive design, the ubiquitous SD40-2. Although the locomotives were mechanically reliable, several serious derailments occurred causing the railroads over which Amtrak operated to impose severe speed limits on the SDP40F. While the "hollow bolster" truck design was suspected as a cause, subsequent testing by both Amtrak and the Federal Railroad Administration, never definitively discovered the source of the continued derailments.Whatever the cause, the restrictions on the use of the SDP40F, plus the rapidly advancing electrification of Amtrak's passenger car fleet, ultimately led Amtrak management to adopt the F40PH as their standard model, based on the proven design of the GP40-2 freight locomotive. The railroad worked out a deal with EMD to trade-in the SDP40Fs in on the F40PH over a period of years. A limited number of SDP40Fs were fitted with head end power equipment. As the F40PHs increased in number on the Amtrak system, the SDP40F was gradually withdrawn from service. The last revenue run of an SDP40F under Amtrak took place in 1985. In an unusual move for modern railroading, 18 were traded by Amtrak to the Santa Fe Railroad in 1984 to be reconditioned for use as freight locomotives, in exchange for 43 smaller locomotives for use by Amtrak as yard switchers. Both railroads benefited from the exchange. The units Santa Fe acquired had a reliable service record, and it is worth noting that one Santa Fe railroad official suggested at the time that the SDP40F's derailment issue was caused simply by the large amount of water these locomotives carried on-board to feed their steam generators; one large tank located over the rear truck contained twenty tons of water that would slosh back and forth on rough track. Certainly, once the Santa Fe removed the water tanks and steam generators and replaced them with steel and concrete weights, the locomotives exhibited no tendency to derail.The last run of an SDP40F took place in 2001 on the BNSF; the units were all officially retired in 2002. Most were scrapped in Topeka, Kansas between 2002 and 2004.

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:48 AM

 Found out this morning that a bomb went off inside the Leesville Wal-Mart this past weekend. What really disturbs me about it is that nothing at all was done to get people out of the store. Everything continued as if it was business as usual. The first order of business should have been to clear then store. Why? Common sense says that where there's one bomb there may well be another. I think Wal-Mart hasn't heard the end of this.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:53 AM

LSWrr
The last run of an SDP40F took place in 2001 on the BNSF; the units were all officially retired in 2002. Most were scrapped in Topeka, Kansas between 2002 and 2004.

Doesn't stop the L&A from snitching a couple of 'em.

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Posted by pcarrell on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:59 AM

JimRCGMO
Gee, there must've been some chowhounds in last night, from all the trash in the dumpster out back. Oh, PC was buying dinner? No wonder! Sorry I missed it!

 

DUDE!  You missed it!  You should've been here!

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 2:40 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

Doesn't stop the L&A from snitching a couple of 'em.

 

True, true, you should see the stuff the L.S.&W. has snitched!

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Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 5:24 PM

Fortunately, the New Haven had such a variety of equipment the temptation rarely presents itself to snitch what they didn't have. Lots of ALCO stuff and some GE too. On top of that, Peter Mclaughlin ran the Maybrook freights as a fireman when they were short on power and has pictures of leased/borrowed B&M EMD E units as well as Pennsy Sharks running on the line. How does that go - a prototype situation for everything ?

   Got a bit more done pulling down the layout today. Unfortunately there is a lot more benchwork/scenery with mold growing on it than first thought so more is hitting the dumpster than I envisioned. What hurt was pitching the entire swing bridge as the mold got into all the scenery and was growing out of the ballast. BummerGrumpy! Well that's the way it goes - just have to come back better than before and I'll be a - ok.   CUL, J.R.

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Posted by james saunders on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 5:49 PM

Hello forum strangers! Long time no reply.

 A email from one of our regulars reminded me of the site! (you know who you are) Clown


Layout is on hold at the moment due to a move coming in a month or so and the fact that cricket is full on at the moment. In case you guys didn't know im in N scale now (US) with UP and BNSF.

 For some reason I can't post from home so I can only do so at work. Bummer hey.

 

Cheers,

 

Ozjim!

 

Oh yeah, FWIW - Go McCain/Palin. Big Smile

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 5:50 PM

It wasn't easy but I finally got a photo of it. My nephews little hunting vehicle.


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Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:13 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

 Found out this morning that a bomb went off inside the Leesville Wal-Mart this past weekend. What really disturbs me about it is that nothing at all was done to get people out of the store. Everything continued as if it was business as usual. The first order of business should have been to clear then store.

Really?

http://thetowntalk.com/article/20081104/NEWS01/811040320

Two people were injured when a homemade bomb went off inside the Leesville Wal-Mart on Saturday, Leesville Police reported.

Two 16-year-old boys have been arrested in connection with the incident that sent two to the hospital with minor injuries, Leesville Police Chief Bobby Hickman said in a statement released Monday.

Police said the device went off around 8:30 p.m. and was initially reported to them as gunshots coming from the sporting goods area of the store. It was later discovered that it was a "small bomb" that had been detonated by the teens in the men's clothing section of the store.

A customer and an employee suffered minor injuries during the explosion. They were taken to a local hospital where they were treated and later released.

One of the unnamed juveniles was charged with criminal trespass and has been released to his parents.

The other teen faces charges of manufacture and possession of a bomb, theft of goods, simple arson, two counts of counts of negligent injury, disturbing the peace and aggravated assault. The second teen also has two previous and unrelated arson charges through Leesville Police, according to the release. He will be taken to a juvenile detention center.

Police said the store was cleared, and the boys were arrested after officials reviewed security tape from the store.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:16 PM

 Very strange. The comments of those who were there stress the oppisite. The only area cleared was the IMMEDIATE area.

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Posted by CNCharlie on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:12 PM

Good Evening Diners!

 

First of all I want to thank every-one for the B-D wishes and the cake!!  I went for my annual poke and prod that morning. My Doc said he had a birthday surprise for me as he snapped on a rubber glove. Hopefully the tests come out OK. I did get a flu shot and as I have a 94 year old mother, it was free.

Lee, I know it's a bit late but I am sorry to hear about the loss of your furry friend. It's always a tough call but you have to put them first.

Weather here has been amazing. On Monday we hit a record with a high of 68F. It is supposed to start cooling off by the week-end with a high of about 28F on Sunday. I imagine it will be heading south but hopefully it won't get too far. I did manage to get the fish out of the pond and into their winter abode  baon Sunday plus finish cleaning up the back yard. My wife asked me to empty the flower pots of the earth otherwise they will freeze and crack. Would you believe I filled 3 wheel barrow fulls of earh. It is a small wheel barrow but still that's a lot of dirt!

Jeff, I sure don't mind parking the RV at the s tation. I can railfan at the same time but is there power hook up? I guess I could always attach a jumper cable to the rails.

Well it's time to get to the TV. Your election is a big deal here as the outcome will have a rather big  impact on us as we ship most of what we produce your way.

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:49 PM

CNCharlie
Jeff, I sure don't mind parking the RV at the s tation. I can railfan at the same time but is there power hook up? I guess I could always attach a jumper cable to the rails.

The station has everything you need.

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:56 PM

Jeff that is not a true southern hunting vehicle, where is the 1,000,000 candle power spot light???

JR that is true NH is also the only line that I know of outside of the PRR to have GG1s running regular service.  Sorry to hear about the layout.

 

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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:19 PM

Evening Gang: I went to the CAP meeting with the grand daughter. She is really getting into it. When they were having there drill practice I had a hard time not acting like a tac officer again. I was disapointed that the uniform for the seinor members was blue polo shirt and gray slaks. I asked about it and got the impresion that it was for persons that could not meet Air Force groming codes. From what I saw no one there did not meet code. Anyway that kind of turned me off. There have been a lot of other changes that I think are very good. They have decent aircraft now. Mostly Cessna 172 and 182s. A far cry from the PT 23 that I flew in as an observer/navigator. That bird had a hand crank inertial starter and open cockpit. That was a real cold ride in the winter along the west coast of Lake Michagan. Any way I'm going back next week and may go check out the seinor squadron on Tuesday night.

I got the frame for the flat car finished sandblasted. That was a long job that took 160lbs of blasting medium. I put it in the shop since it may rain tomorrow. I don't want to have to start all over to remove rust. I'll paint it yellow and letter it for Chcago & North Western.

Well I guess I'll hit the sack.

Good Night All

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Posted by gear-jammer on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:00 PM

Good  evening.  I will have a hot cider, please.

Paul,  Glad the grand daughter is enjoying CAP.  Did you get enough hay in this year?  I am wondering if we did.  Our hay price doubled this year.

Later, Sue

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:19 PM

Evening, Chloe - I'll have a cup of cocoa, please. Thank you, ma'am.

JR, sorry to hear about your losing a bit more of your layout (especially the swing bridge, as I understand those are ticklish to get just right...). As you said, there's always rebuilding it better. Thumbs Up 

OzJim! Are you still using the same basic layout plan you'd last posted in the old Diner? And where are you going to move to? Fill us long-time Diners in, when you get a chance.

james saunders

Layout is on hold at the moment due to a move coming in a month or so and the fact that cricket is full on at the moment. In case you guys didn't know im in N scale now (US) with UP and BNSF.

...

Ozjim!

Oh yeah, FWIW - Go McCain/Palin. Big Smile

Whistling

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OopsWow!! Think I'd schedule my appointment on some other day, CN Charlie!


Jeff, that's some kind of hunting vehicle, for sure. So, how many candle power is the spotlight/bar on it? Wink Good to hear that CN Charlie will be able to fit his RV there at the station. Yesindeedy!

Paul, that CAP business about polo shirts sounds weird to me, too (given that there didn't appear to be any need for the special treatment). But I'm probably 'Old school', I guess. When I was in high school and in Air Explorers, or in ROTC in college, there probably wouldn't have been polo shirts. (Did they have polo shirts back in the 60's, anyway?)

Well, no more political ads (thank Heaven!) all over TV now. [whew!]

I'm going to head home for some Zzz. Had a rather busy day - got to swing by her for lunch (around 3 p.m.) kinda later than usual. Hopefully tomorrow will be not quite as busy.

Prayers for those in need of healing and comfort.AngelAngel

 

Blessings and a good night's rest for all of you,

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11-05-2008
Posted by wetidlerjr on Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:48 AM

Good Morning from Tipton IN ! Big Smile

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:53 AM

LSWrr
Jeff that is not a true southern hunting vehicle, where is the 1,000,000 candle power spot light???

Behind the seat. The person in the righthand seat holds it up as they're slamming through the brush.

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Posted by LSWrr on Wednesday, November 5, 2008 6:46 AM

Good morning all,

 
Cleveland / Cuyahoga
Lat: 41.58   Lon: -81.48   Elev: 902
Last Update on Nov 5, 6:45 am EST
Clear

52°F
(11°C)
Humidity: 82 %
Wind Speed: S 9 MPH
Barometer: 30.17"
Dewpoint: 46°F (8°C)
Wind Chill: 49°F (9°C)
Visibility: 7.00 mi.
 
 

High today of 69F, looks like a full week of Indian summer for us.

 

I ordered brick streets and cement side walks for my downtown area and it should be in this Friday.

 

Whew, Jeff I thought you guys forgot about the spotlight. Looks like a nice vehicle.  You guys hunt deer and hogs down there?

Lee


 

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