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looking for prime mover models.
Posted by rs2mike on Friday, July 18, 2008 10:29 PM

Ho scale prime movers.  I want to showcase an engine in a loco and in a shop at some point in this model railroading career I have started but have no idea where to find them.  Can you find it in a model building kit or can they be bought elsewhere.  I would like one in my rs-2 and another one for a spare.

Any help?

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Posted by V&AL on Friday, July 18, 2008 11:07 PM
I know a walthers shop kit comes with one, other than that, not off the top of my head. I plan on using actual Athearn motors in my shop...
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Posted by Flashwave on Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:01 AM
The sane engine can be bought seperate. It's a 567 I think

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Posted by loathar on Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:03 AM
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Posted by rs2mike on Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:55 AM

Thanks.  Was the 567 used in just emd engines or other manufactures as well?

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Posted by Gary UK on Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:25 AM
Just EMD's.
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Posted by SilverSpike on Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:49 PM

The Walther's Allied Rail Rebuilders (N #933-3211, HO #933-3016)  Kit also includes the EMD 567 "Prime Mover", here is mine on the Southern flat car:

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:08 PM

The Walthers version looks pretty close to the real thing, but it probably wouldn't be that difficult to scratchbuild one either:

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Posted by rs2mike on Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:38 PM
 SilverSpike wrote:

The Walther's Allied Rail Rebuilders (N #933-3211, HO #933-3016)  Kit also includes the EMD 567 "Prime Mover", here is mine on the Southern flat car:

Thanks for the info.  Do you think I could build it then make a mold of it to cast a couple or no?

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Posted by Flashwave on Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:46 PM
 rs2mike wrote:
 SilverSpike wrote:

The Walther's Allied Rail Rebuilders (N #933-3211, HO #933-3016)  Kit also includes the EMD 567 "Prime Mover", here is mine on the Southern flat car:

Thanks for the info.  Do you think I could build it then make a mold of it to cast a couple or no?

Yeah if you can keep the pieces together when making the mold. But I;m not sure to get the detail and get close enough that the front pieces wouln't break off. The other aternative though is to cast the pieces or the pieces on the sprue.  

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Posted by loathar on Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:08 PM
 rs2mike wrote:
 SilverSpike wrote:

The Walther's Allied Rail Rebuilders (N #933-3211, HO #933-3016)  Kit also includes the EMD 567 "Prime Mover", here is mine on the Southern flat car:

Thanks for the info.  Do you think I could build it then make a mold of it to cast a couple or no?

They're $8. You'll probably have to spend 3 times that on resin and mold material.

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Posted by rs2mike on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:24 AM
YES got 3 on ebay cheaper than from walthers.  Can't wait to get them.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:08 AM
 davidmbedard wrote:

 Flashwave wrote:
The sane engine can be bought seperate. It's a 567 I think

567s are sane?  Thats not what alot of engineers tell me.

David B

 

David,The 567 came in several sub classes so,no all 567s wasn't the "same" but,look alike and each had its own distinct sound.

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Posted by GAPPLEG on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:48 PM

Ya just gotta be creative:

GE prime mover made from the EMD model from Walthers. Alco's look different , I made molds of different parts and cast it in resin.

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Posted by Rotorranch on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:52 PM

Sweet Jerry! Is it totally resin, or do you use the Walthers kit and add the resin parts?

Any chance of getting one of those?

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Posted by marknewton on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:54 PM
 GAPPLEG wrote:

Ya just gotta be creative...


Ooh! VERY NICE!

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Posted by modelbuilder on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:47 PM
 Rotorranch wrote:

Sweet Jerry! Is it totally resin, or do you use the Walthers kit and add the resin parts?

Any chance of getting one of those?

Rotor

 

Dito. What did you use for reference? Can you explain the process of how you built this in better detail?

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Posted by loathar on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:14 PM
I thought I remebered Jerry posting a thread on that when he made it??
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Posted by Rotorranch on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:41 PM

 loathar wrote:
I thought I remebered Jerry posting a thread on that when he made it??

I thought so too, but I can't find it now. Confused [%-)]

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Posted by loathar on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:20 PM
If anyone is interested, I just found those PM's for $3.95.
http://www.kdchobbies.com/servlet/the-626/Walthers-%233119-EMD-567/Detail?sfs=74e2ea85
This place has some really low prices and their shipping is dirt cheap.(never heard of them before???)
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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:33 PM

Whistling [:-^]

I just found this on E-bay

1 item found for: prime mover 567 in HO Scale   ( Save this search )

Hope this helps.  Just click on the blue lettering.

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WALTHERS CORNERSTONE HO EMD 567 PRIME MOVER MODEL KIT

 

 

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Posted by Autobus Prime on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:51 PM
 rs2mike wrote:
 SilverSpike wrote:

The Walther's Allied Rail Rebuilders (N #933-3211, HO #933-3016)  Kit also includes the EMD 567 "Prime Mover", here is mine on the Southern flat car:

Thanks for the info.  Do you think I could build it then make a mold of it to cast a couple or no?


RS2:

You've already bought some, I take it, but I just wanted to point out that it's not that hard to build 2 or 3 of something off one design without making molds. Just cut out multiples of each piece.

One thing I have done with other parts (some restaurant booths, for instance) is plane and sand a strip of wood to a profile, then slice it up and build the rest on that base. You could do this with the central A-frame of the 567. (I think it's called that.)
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Posted by GAPPLEG on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:25 PM

just depends on how close to " real "  he wants. Most Alco had round access ports for crank inspection , so he'd have to sand off the square EMD hatches and makes some round ones. Like I said in my previous post , and you stated , just be creative and you'll do it !

As loathar said yeah I went through the whole process in a thread last year, be tough to write that all again. If you take your time and look at engine pix's you can make anything if you take the time.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:22 PM
 davidmbedard wrote:

 

David,The 567 came in several sub classes so,no all 567s wasn't the "same" but,look alike and each had its own distinct sound.

Brakie....read my post again.  Notice that I dont use the letter 'm'.

David B

I don't know how sane any of the 567s was but,the engine noise in the cab while starting a tonnage train could drive the crew insane.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:23 PM

Gappleg, here's your thread:

http://cs.trains.com/forums/820568/ShowPost.aspx

If you ever get into building more of these, I'll buy one from you!  I'm still planning on doing a cutaway model of an SCL U-Boat in a shop scene. Wink [;)]

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Posted by GAPPLEG on Friday, July 25, 2008 4:02 PM
Will do better ones in the future, just went DCC so I'm up to my armpits in alligators, converting units. The first one is really crude, got to do a better job on the heads and turbo.
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Posted by kgill on Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:38 PM

Wayne,

I know your post was from 2008 but I found it today.

I had to look carefully to determine this is a pic of the real thing, as your recent posts are sometimes difficult to tell! Thumbs UpBig Smile

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:40 PM

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Posted by kgill on Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:04 PM

If anyone thinks its going to be too much work to build the engine scene, try just a small portion of it!!!

This is on the smokesak forum, i cant seem to get a link but if you google this title i bet it shows up. Neat!

U36B inside of the Uceta Locomotive shop

RCT&HS Locomotive EMD 567B

Recently The RCT&HS has been overhauling a EMD 567B. The engine was taken out of service due to...

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