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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Monday, June 23, 2008 11:26 AM
 George Carlin, comedian/ Thomas & Friends Narrarator, died on Sunday, June 22, 2008 of Heart Failure. He will surely be missed.Sad [:(]

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Posted by twhite on Monday, June 23, 2008 11:32 AM

I was sorry to hear of this--I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Carlin several times in the 1970's through a mutual friend of ours, the jazz drummer Joe Belardino.  Carlin was a very, VERY funny man and a really nice guy.  You're right, he'll be missed.

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Posted by hobo9941 on Monday, June 23, 2008 11:38 AM
I liked him. Really funny.
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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, June 23, 2008 11:42 AM

 New Haven I-5 wrote:
 George Carlin, comedian/ Thomas & Friends Narrarator, died on Sunday, June 22, 2008 of Heart Failure. He will surely be missed.Sad [:(]

It is sad news when any one dies.  But to post something about him in MR forums? 

I read the bio on MSN news about him and while I grew up in High School hearing his 7-words routine and saw him in Reno when I was 21, the bio made me lose respect for him.  He was a druggie and a counter culture, counter morals figure.  Read his bio, you'll see.  Certainly no role model to any one that I would recommend.  I'm sure many of us have things in our past we are not proud of and don't want to be remembered for, but people in the public eye are particularly open observation because of the nature of celebrity.  They are often glorified for certain talents while their lives represent something we would never want our children to emulate.

Funny guy?  Yes, for sure.  He was a funny guy, and many like him for his quirky and sometimes insightful humor or ways of looking at the funny side of life.  For those things most of us found him funny and entertaining.  Lets be realistic though, many celebrities, despite enormous talent, are often reverse role models if we knew about their real lives.  I often feel American society looks up too much to celebrities and entertainers, and not enough to many real, unsung hero's, like teachers, or parents, or family members.  Here's to them!

My condolenses to Carlin's family.  I'm sure his family and many admirers will miss him.

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Posted by georgev on Monday, June 23, 2008 1:38 PM
 riogrande5761 wrote:

 New Haven I-5 wrote:
 George Carlin, comedian/ Thomas & Friends Narrarator, died on Sunday, June 22, 2008 of Heart Failure. He will surely be missed.Sad [:(]

It is sad news when any one dies.  But to post something about him in MR forums? 

I read the bio on MSN news about him and while I grew up in High School hearing his 7-words routine and saw him in Reno when I was 21, the bio made me lose respect for him.  He was a druggie and a counter culture, counter morals figure.  Read his bio, you'll see.  Certainly no role model to any one that I would recommend.  I'm sure many of us have things in our past we are not proud of and don't want to be remembered for, but people in the public eye are particularly open observation because of the nature of celebrity.  They are often glorified for certain talents while their lives represent something we would never want our children to emulate.

Funny guy?  Yes, for sure.  He was a funny guy, and many like him for his quirky and sometimes insightful humor or ways of looking at the funny side of life.  For those things most of us found him funny and entertaining.  Lets be realistic though, many celebrities, despite enormous talent, are often reverse role models if we knew about their real lives.  I often feel American society looks up too much to celebrities and entertainers, and not enough to many real, unsung hero's, like teachers, or parents, or family members.  Here's to them!

My condolenses to Carlin's family.  I'm sure his family and many admirers will miss him.

I think the tie-in here is that for some period George Carlin played the role of the conductor (Mr. Conductor?) on the Thomas and Friends TV show.  I can recall a severe brain cramp whilst flipping the dial on the tube one day some number of years ago and coming across Thomas...and that conductor looks familiar.... is that... George Carlin? 

I would bet the younger crew on this board would associate him more with Mr. Conductor than the Hippie Dippy Weatherman....

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, June 23, 2008 2:44 PM
Ah yes.  I regret to admit I worked for a short time in The Great Train Store and they had Thomas playing all the time.  It was a well done show for children.  I don't recall seeing the episodes with George Carlin as host, but heard that he was doing that for a number of the shows.  I see the tie-in now to this forums.

I would imagine many on here haven't watched Thomas and just think it was an obituary notice about a famous celeb.

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Posted by lvanhen on Monday, June 23, 2008 3:14 PM
 georgev wrote:
 riogrande5761 wrote:

 New Haven I-5 wrote:
 George Carlin, comedian/ Thomas & Friends Narrarator, died on Sunday, June 22, 2008 of Heart Failure. He will surely be missed.Sad [:(]

It is sad news when any one dies.  But to post something about him in MR forums? 

I read the bio on MSN news about him and while I grew up in High School hearing his 7-words routine and saw him in Reno when I was 21, the bio made me lose respect for him.  He was a druggie and a counter culture, counter morals figure.  Read his bio, you'll see.  Certainly no role model to any one that I would recommend.  I'm sure many of us have things in our past we are not proud of and don't want to be remembered for, but people in the public eye are particularly open observation because of the nature of celebrity.  They are often glorified for certain talents while their lives represent something we would never want our children to emulate.

Funny guy?  Yes, for sure.  He was a funny guy, and many like him for his quirky and sometimes insightful humor or ways of looking at the funny side of life.  For those things most of us found him funny and entertaining.  Lets be realistic though, many celebrities, despite enormous talent, are often reverse role models if we knew about their real lives.  I often feel American society looks up too much to celebrities and entertainers, and not enough to many real, unsung hero's, like teachers, or parents, or family members.  Here's to them!

My condolenses to Carlin's family.  I'm sure his family and many admirers will miss him.

I think the tie-in here is that for some period George Carlin played the role of the conductor (Mr. Conductor?) on the Thomas and Friends TV show.  I can recall a severe brain cramp whilst flipping the dial on the tube one day some number of years ago and coming across Thomas...and that conductor looks familiar.... is that... George Carlin? 

I would bet the younger crew on this board would associate him more with Mr. Conductor than the Hippie Dippy Weatherman....

George V.

 

Ditto to all of the above (can we still say ditto?)  I saw him in person over 25 years ago & he was very funny!!  That said, in later years his politics got way too far left for my taste, but he was still funny, and I do remember the Thomas (actually "Shining Time Station") episodes he was in - since the grandkids have ALL of the Thomas tapes I'm sure we have it on tape.

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Posted by Robby P. on Monday, June 23, 2008 3:22 PM
I thought he was very funny.  He was a good actor to go from a R-rated mouth, to hosting a kids show.  I have noticed on a few websites and news channels, they don't talk about his "Thomas the Tank engine" hosting at all.  Makes me wonder if they don't wanna use that news about him. 

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Posted by Rotorranch on Monday, June 23, 2008 3:22 PM

IIRC...Carlin took over the "Mr. Conductor" role after Ringo Starr left the show. I think George had the role for 2 years, but continued as narrator for several more years.

I watched the show regularly for years when The Kid was little. Pretty neat scenery on the layout.

RIP Mr. Conductor.

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Posted by loathar on Monday, June 23, 2008 3:26 PM
It was Shining Time Station. (A Thomas spin off...)
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Posted by LudwigVonDrake on Monday, June 23, 2008 3:27 PM

I did'nt know he was the US narrator for Thomas. (Then again I still think Ringo Starr does it). He was great as Fillmore in Cars though.

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Posted by route_rock on Monday, June 23, 2008 6:10 PM

  We were talking about him on sunday. Somehow we got on the subject of GC and how he was on Shining time station. Sad very sad.

  Still a great guy to listen too, counterculture aside we can still poke fun at each other. Political correctness almost makes it impossible to laugh at ones self. I am glad we have guys like Geroge, Carlos Mencia, Mel Brooks,and all those other guys that make you say " He didnt just say that"When your telling the truth about life and laughing at yourself then your doing ok in my book.

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Posted by PA&ERR on Monday, June 23, 2008 6:27 PM

Sigh....

Another of the good ones gone!

Sad [:(]

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Posted by WP 3020 on Monday, June 23, 2008 7:25 PM
 lvanhen wrote:
 georgev wrote:
 riogrande5761 wrote:

 New Haven I-5 wrote:
 George Carlin, comedian/ Thomas & Friends Narrarator, died on Sunday, June 22, 2008 of Heart Failure. He will surely be missed.Sad [:(]

It is sad news when any one dies.  But to post something about him in MR forums? 

I read the bio on MSN news about him and while I grew up in High School hearing his 7-words routine and saw him in Reno when I was 21, the bio made me lose respect for him.  He was a druggie and a counter culture, counter morals figure.  Read his bio, you'll see.  Certainly no role model to any one that I would recommend.  I'm sure many of us have things in our past we are not proud of and don't want to be remembered for, but people in the public eye are particularly open observation because of the nature of celebrity.  They are often glorified for certain talents while their lives represent something we would never want our children to emulate.

Funny guy?  Yes, for sure.  He was a funny guy, and many like him for his quirky and sometimes insightful humor or ways of looking at the funny side of life.  For those things most of us found him funny and entertaining.  Lets be realistic though, many celebrities, despite enormous talent, are often reverse role models if we knew about their real lives.  I often feel American society looks up too much to celebrities and entertainers, and not enough to many real, unsung hero's, like teachers, or parents, or family members.  Here's to them!

My condolenses to Carlin's family.  I'm sure his family and many admirers will miss him.

I think the tie-in here is that for some period George Carlin played the role of the conductor (Mr. Conductor?) on the Thomas and Friends TV show.  I can recall a severe brain cramp whilst flipping the dial on the tube one day some number of years ago and coming across Thomas...and that conductor looks familiar.... is that... George Carlin? 

I would bet the younger crew on this board would associate him more with Mr. Conductor than the Hippie Dippy Weatherman....

George V.

 

Ditto to all of the above (can we still say ditto?)  I saw him in person over 25 years ago & he was very funny!!  That said, in later years his politics got way too far left for my taste, but he was still funny, and I do remember the Thomas (actually "Shining Time Station") episodes he was in - since the grandkids have ALL of the Thomas tapes I'm sure we have it on tape.

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, June 23, 2008 7:48 PM

Didnt he do that famous skit "Seven Words You Can Never Say on Shining Time Station?"

Man was a genius and will be missed.

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Posted by BRVRR on Monday, June 23, 2008 8:12 PM
RIP George. God Bless.

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Monday, June 23, 2008 8:19 PM

 

Pardon me, but George Carlin was seventy-one years old! can someone please explain to me what is so horrible about dying at the age of seventy-one years especially when you have had a twenty year history of heart ailments?

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Posted by dwRavenstar on Monday, June 23, 2008 8:59 PM

When one has a zest and love for life like Mr. Carlin had any time is too soon to close the book. 

Counter culture can be defined as counter conformity and there's no guilt associated with mentioning the King's lack of clothes.

Any nay sayers out there might watch Larry King Live tonight and see how those who knew him offstage feel about George.

His time has become finite but the laughs will fill the halls of my mind forever.

Thanks Mr. Carlin.  Break a leg on that stage in Heaven tonight.  Angel [angel]

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Posted by Don Gibson on Monday, June 23, 2008 8:59 PM

A Counter Culture commedian and 'Wordsmith' in it's finest sense. Remember his 'Hippy Dippy Weatherman' routine? - A classic. Made the Networks.

I remember the night he was pulled offstage by local Gendarmes @ Milwaukee's Summerfest.    I was playing  Miller's Jazz Venue @ the time.

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Posted by loathar on Monday, June 23, 2008 9:20 PM
I remember him complaining about how evil children were and that he knew this from playing Mr. Conductor!Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by CSXDixieLine on Monday, June 23, 2008 10:01 PM

 LudwigVonDrake wrote:
He was great as Fillmore in Cars though. "I'm tellin' you maaaan. Every third blink is slower"

HAHAHA! Today we were talking about his role in "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" but I completely forgot about his voice role in "Cars". My 4-year old son has a zillion of the Thomas DVDs and videos and Cars is his favorite movie. I can say Mr. Carlin has definitely sparked some laughter from my son (as well as me) over the years. Jamie

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:58 AM

RIP

Sad [:(]Disapprove [V]

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Posted by jackn2mpu on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:24 AM
 R. T. POTEET wrote:

Pardon me, but George Carlin was seventy-one years old! can someone please explain to me what is so horrible about dying at the age of seventy-one years especially when you have had a twenty year history of heart ailments?

Do you want to die if/when you reach 71? Wouldn't you like to live longer? Would it have made it any less horrible (in your mind) if he died of a car accident?

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Posted by PA&ERR on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:31 AM

Ditto to all of the above (can we still say ditto?)  I saw him in person over 25 years ago & he was very funny!!  That said, in later years his politics got way too far left for my taste, but he was still funny

I was thinking the same thing, however, I wanted to keep my remarks "politics free".

I wonder if he really moved that far to the left? Things he was saying in his later years were fairly consistant with what he was talking about in his 20s. The verbage may have changed with the times, but the same basic ideas were still there.

Perhaps it is ourselves who, over the years, have migrated (in unseen increments) to the right?

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Posted by jackn2mpu on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:41 AM
 riogrande5761 wrote:

 New Haven I-5 wrote:
 George Carlin, comedian/ Thomas & Friends Narrarator, died on Sunday, June 22, 2008 of Heart Failure. He will surely be missed.Sad [:(]

It is sad news when any one dies.  But to post something about him in MR forums? 

I read the bio on MSN news about him and while I grew up in High School hearing his 7-words routine and saw him in Reno when I was 21, the bio made me lose respect for him.  He was a druggie and a counter culture, counter morals figure.  Read his bio, you'll see.  Certainly no role model to any one that I would recommend.  I'm sure many of us have things in our past we are not proud of and don't want to be remembered for, but people in the public eye are particularly open observation because of the nature of celebrity.  They are often glorified for certain talents while their lives represent something we would never want our children to emulate.

Funny guy?  Yes, for sure.  He was a funny guy, and many like him for his quirky and sometimes insightful humor or ways of looking at the funny side of life.  For those things most of us found him funny and entertaining.  Lets be realistic though, many celebrities, despite enormous talent, are often reverse role models if we knew about their real lives.  I often feel American society looks up too much to celebrities and entertainers, and not enough to many real, unsung hero's, like teachers, or parents, or family members.  Here's to them!

My condolenses to Carlin's family.  I'm sure his family and many admirers will miss him.

So George was counter-culture - BFD! He poked holes in the pompous as well as everyday people and their foibles. He held a light up to those that needed it. George helped you see things in ways the mainstream doesn't want you to see them, oftentimes him showing the truth of things. He was SO much more than the 7 dirty words - that was just his way to get a foot in the door. So Carlin wasn't pc - anybody who is just doesn't live in the real world.

So people should only look up to teachers, parents and family members as hero's? Truth be told, you'll find as many, if not more, skeletons in their closets that they'd rather not have known as you would in any celebrity's background. Ozzie and Harriet or the Cleavers don't live here anymore.

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Posted by Walleye on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:43 AM
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Pardon me, but George Carlin was seventy-one years old! can someone please explain to me what is so horrible about dying at the age of seventy-one years especially when you have had a twenty year history of heart ailments?

There may be nothing horrible about dying at age 71 - don't know, I'm not there yet. But mourning is a selfcentered emotion. When someone dies, we mourn our loss, not their passing.

Carlin made me laugh at my own attitudes at times - and laughing at yourself is always healthy. He offered insights and a point of view that challenged me to think about them, whether I agreed with them or not - again, a healthy thing. I regret that I will never again receive his particular, unique brand of mental stimulation. If Carlin made my life just a little bit richer by what he contributed to it, then my life has been made just a little bit less rich by his death.

And he would probably find my sentiments maudlin and poke fun at them!

 

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:39 PM
 jackn2mpu wrote:
 R. T. POTEET wrote:

Pardon me, but George Carlin was seventy-one years old! can someone please explain to me what is so horrible about dying at the age of seventy-one years especially when you have had a twenty year history of heart ailments?

Do you want to die if/when you reach 71? Wouldn't you like to live longer? Would it have made it any less horrible (in your mind) if he died of a car accident?

 Look, I liked George Carlin as much as the next guy and I am saddened by his passing buy why, may I ask, is it "horrible"?. "Tragic" might be a better adjective to his passing but then one has to ask what, since we all die sooner-or-later, would make that event a tragedy.He was only three years older than I am and that fact does tend to cause reflection on my mortality.

I most certainly would like to live beyond the age of 71; for that matter I even want to live beyond the age of 68. Would I like to live to 91? I'm not sure! we have a woman in our church who is 93. She requires a walker but she is as mentally vigilant as a woman half her age. We heap accolades on those who achieve the century mark - our president recently paid homage in the White House to the last surviving World War One veteran who recently celebrated his 107th birthday and I applauded that he had achieved that age - but most of those who do are, if you examine it closely, decrepit and I would, most certainly, above all else, like to avoid that.

What, may I ask, kind of future did we want for George Carlin with his twenty year history of cardiac problems? Did we want him to survive another twenty years confined to a wheel chair and suffering from intense dementia? I will mourn George Carlins death and move on to other things. I will not label it as "horrible" nor even as "tragic".  

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:38 PM

I don't think his views on the world changed much at all, it is we who have changed, and not all for the better! RIP George, have a doobie for me.

 

Another man who will be even more sorely missed by me and hasn't been mentioned here on the forum was Tim Russert. His sudden passing really hit me, I will really miss him on Sunday mornings and his insights on the politics of the day. RIP Tim.

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:15 PM
I literally woke up to the news of George Carlin's passing, not a great way to start the day.   I went with a friend a few years back and saw him in Atlantic City, very glad I did now.   He even worked Mr. Conductor into the act!
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Posted by saronaterry on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:39 PM
I'll miss him. "I'm gonna snatch that *** and put it in a box!!!!" THAT'S funny!

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