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What's your favorite 4-8-4?

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What's your favorite 4-8-4?
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 1, 2004 5:37 PM
I like the FEF's. Particularly the FEF-3. The SP GS4 and ATSF 4-8-4 take a close second and third.[:)]
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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, March 1, 2004 5:43 PM
Yeah. Good Question. My is the sweetest lookin' steamer ever built, the ATSF 2900 class. Espee GS-4 and UP FEF-3 rank 2nd and 3rd to me.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 1, 2004 5:44 PM
LV Wyoming all the way!
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Posted by johncolley on Monday, March 1, 2004 5:53 PM
Hey you left out one beautiful hauling machine, the Great Northern S-2 with 80" drivers. There is one on display at Havre, Montana, that I looked over last spring while the Empire Builder was being serviced. Happy Railroading, Go Rocky !
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Posted by Fergmiester on Monday, March 1, 2004 7:32 PM
Your forgetting Canadian Nationals 203 Northerns. I like the 6200 series with Elesco Feedwater heaters.

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Posted by CP5415 on Monday, March 1, 2004 7:56 PM
My favourite 4-8-4 is CPR 3100 & 3101.
I saw 3100 at a museum in Ottawa about 3 years ago, climbed through the cab.

The nicest 4-8-4 I've ever taken pictures of.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 1, 2004 8:57 PM
Specifically the Timkin "Four Aces". This was such a break through engine that it changed super steam with it's arrival. The Timkin was tested by over 20 roads, I believe. The Timkin was eventually purchased by N.P. and became the only engine in Northern Pacific's A-1Class. After purchase the Timkin was changed to the Northern Pacific's 2626. It is a sad thing that of all the N.P. engines saved from the torch, the Timkin was not one of them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 1, 2004 9:21 PM
Rut roh! [:p]Forgot anudder one![:0]
My Favorite, the Western Maryland Potomac (different from RF&P)
The 1400 class was arguably the pinnacle of the design, delivered to the WM after the 1st f-units!
I've got 1 PFM brass model, and wouldnt mind a dozen more![(-D]
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Posted by EL PARRo on Monday, March 1, 2004 10:21 PM
I like UP's FEF-3's, although if I ever bought a 4-8-4, I'd get an FEF-2, because those were the one's that UP used during the era that I model (early 1940's).
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Posted by rogerhensley on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 6:56 AM
Although the N&W J was a great machine, I prefer the NYC Niagara. She was a beautiful beast whether on a fast freight or at the head of a passenger. The last Niagara in service was 6015.

From the RRsof MadCty web site:
June 30, 1956. Last run of 6015 in passenger service, train no. 416, Indianapolis to Cincinnati on account of a diesel failure. Departed Indianapolis 34 minutes late, arrived Cincinnati 6 minutes late.
July 2, 1956. Returned to Indianapolis in freight service, train CC-3. Final run.

And another great steamer was laid to rest.

Roger Hensley
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 7:27 AM
Lest we forget, The first purchaser of this wheel arrangement was the Northern Pacific, hense the name "Northern". I also think this may be the wheel arrangement with the most names. I mean, I can understand the "Southern Boys" not liking the name "Northern" and calling their's a "Dixie". However, what's up with all the others; Potomic, Greenbrier, Wyoming and Niagra?

I saw the G.N. Northern in Havre MT a couple of years ago and she is a "beaut".
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 7:55 AM
The oil suckin', 80", Santa Fe 3751, is my favorite loco. Built in 1927, retired in 1957. When BLI releases their model I hope to buy one.

Here's a link to "Comparisons of 4-8-4's" http://www.sbrhs.org/484com.html
I'm sure they don't list them all but it is good information about 4-8-4's.

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Posted by orsonroy on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 8:04 AM
I can't vote, considering my favorite is the H-10 class 4-8-4's built for the TP&W. They were the smallest Northerns built for US service (barely larger than a USRA Mike), and were one of the cleanest engines on the rails in the 1940s.

Here's a link to a good shot of them:

http://donross.railspot.com/dr0501/bl280.jpg

http://donross.railspot.com/dr0501/bl279.jpg

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Modeling the NKP's Peoria Division, circa 1943

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 8:42 AM
What about the Rio Grande's 4-8-4s? the 1700s and the 1800s?
I prefer the 1700s, they were sweet running and very fine looking machines.
I didn't vote, because my favorite was not an option.
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Posted by AggroJones on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 10:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Liddiard

What about the Rio Grande's 4-8-4s? the 1700s and the 1800s?
I prefer the 1700s, they were sweet running and very fine looking machines.
I didn't vote, because my favorite was not an option.


Yeah. "Other" should have been one of the options.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 3:25 PM
Ok guys, I'm sorry. I added other. I guess I just forgot.
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Posted by GDRMCo on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 1:11 AM
Mine is the greatest of them all!
the GDRMCo M-5 with 80" drivers and just about everthing else that was able to make a steam engine better was fitted to all of the 100 of them and they had elephant ear smoke deflectors and centipede articulated tenders. they ran on a mix of fuel and oil.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 1:27 AM
SP 4449 is my favorite!! We lived in Portland, OR for a time in the early 1980's and I got a tour of its' cab when it was still painted in the AFT scheme--it was @ a transportation expo and also got a tour of a BN wide vision caboose. Quite a thrill for a kid. Best Field Trip I ever had in school!!! The Coast Guard's simulated rescue in the Willamette River with a helicopter was pretty neat too.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 2:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by emory

SP 4449 is my favorite!! We lived in Portland, OR for a time in the early 1980's and I got a tour of its' cab when it was still painted in the AFT scheme--it was @ a transportation expo and also got a tour of a BN wide vision caboose. Quite a thrill for a kid. Best Field Trip I ever had in school!!! The Coast Guard's simulated rescue in the Willamette River with a helicopter was pretty neat too.
Hey Emory![:)] Did you know SP4449 is painted in AFT scheme again after 911? You can go see your beauty again![:D][:D][;)]
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Posted by rf16a on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 11:38 PM
1. Reading T-1.
2. Norfolk and Western J.
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Posted by Dallas Morlan on Thursday, March 4, 2004 12:20 AM
I'm just beginning to learn about steam. As a result my favorite is one that is still running!!!
Ohio Central (formerly GTW) running excursions within a 2 hour drive of my home.



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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 12:32 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

QUOTE: Originally posted by emory

SP 4449 is my favorite!! We lived in Portland, OR for a time in the early 1980's and I got a tour of its' cab when it was still painted in the AFT scheme--it was @ a transportation expo and also got a tour of a BN wide vision caboose. Quite a thrill for a kid. Best Field Trip I ever had in school!!! The Coast Guard's simulated rescue in the Willamette River with a helicopter was pretty neat too.
Hey Emory![:)] Did you know SP4449 is painted in AFT scheme again after 911? You can go see your beauty again![:D][:D][;)]
Saw pictures of the 4449 repainted in the AFT scheme--brought back some cool memories!! [C):-)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 6:18 PM
I personally like the Daylight scheme better.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 7:45 PM
ATSF 3751 Baby
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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, March 4, 2004 9:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

I personally like the Daylight scheme better.


The hardest scheme ever on the GS was the Warbaby black. [:)]

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Posted by CG9602 on Thursday, March 4, 2004 10:28 PM
You can't overlook the Class H northerns of the CNW, or the Northerns of the MILW. They did yeoman's work in the shadow of the Western Transcontinentals, but when they had it where it counted.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 5, 2004 2:14 AM
Definitly the NC&StL J3 Yellowjacket's followed closely by the J3 stripes.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 5, 2004 12:02 PM
Western Maryland's Potomac Class for me. No one makes these except some rare brass.
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Friday, March 5, 2004 5:56 PM
My favorite steamers were Santa Fe's 2900 class. They looked their best with stacks raised [^].

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 6, 2004 4:59 PM
How is the J beating the FEF-3!!!!!!!!!!!???[:D][:P][:)][;)][:P][:P][;)]

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