vsmith wrote: markpierce wrote: richg1998 wrote: High pressure boilers.http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/USAhp/USAhp.htmRich I suppose there could have been a lot more of these weirdos if the diesel/electric revolution hadn't happen.MarkRich , why not let the whole genie out of the bottle ???http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/locoloco.htm BE WARNED DO NOT open that link unless you have a few hours to waste online....you've been forwarned
markpierce wrote: richg1998 wrote: High pressure boilers.http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/USAhp/USAhp.htmRich I suppose there could have been a lot more of these weirdos if the diesel/electric revolution hadn't happen.Mark
richg1998 wrote: High pressure boilers.http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/USAhp/USAhp.htmRich
High pressure boilers.
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/USAhp/USAhp.htm
Rich
I suppose there could have been a lot more of these weirdos if the diesel/electric revolution hadn't happen.
Mark
Rich , why not let the whole genie out of the bottle ???
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/locoloco.htm
BE WARNED
DO NOT open that link unless you have a few hours to waste online....
you've been forwarned
Don't you think you understated that a little, vsmith? (like by maybe a day or two)
Here's a good one!
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/fontaine/fontaine.htm
chadw wrote: Here's a good one!http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/fontaine/fontaine.htm
This is additional evidence that some locomotive designers were nuts. I wonder what advantage this design was to provide.
Talking 4-2-2s, the UK's Great Northern Railway had one with 8-foot diameter driving wheels. I don't consider that one weird, only ungainly.
markpierce wrote: This is additional evidence that some locomotive designers were nuts. I wonder what advantage this design was to provide. Talking 4-2-2s, the UK's Great Northern Railway had one with 8-foot diameter driving wheels. I don't consider that one weird, only ungainly.Mark
The designer claimed a higher top speed, as the drivers were overdriven by approximately 1.4 to 1.
Here's the story: The Fontaine
Rotor
Jake: How often does the train go by? Elwood: So often you won't even notice ...
a 6-8-6 must have been very hard on the curves
Would this be strange enough?
Oak Grove & Georgetown Railroad #5 (owner & modifier) - A "radial planetary" gear drive system was installed by the company's shops on this narrow gauge (3ft) rod locomotive in the early 1920's. The company, a logging railroad, was located in Georgetown, Alabama. Although it is unknown how the system worked, it was thought to have functioned as intended.
pcarrell wrote: Would this be strange enough?Oak Grove & Georgetown Railroad #5 (owner & modifier) - A "radial planetary" gear drive system was installed by the company's shops on this narrow gauge (3ft) rod locomotive in the early 1920's. The company, a logging railroad, was located in Georgetown, Alabama. Although it is unknown how the system worked, it was thought to have functioned as intended.
My guess is that the side and main rods rotated the 'sun' gears, while the 'planet' gears were fixed to the wheels and the ring gear was held secure by the banjo-shaped housing over the whole works. That would have caused the drivers to rotate at a lower speed, but with more torque, translating to more low-end horsepower at the cost of top speed.
Since a logging road would probably not be operating at high speed, the ability to start and move bigger low-speed trains MIGHT have been worth the complexity. To my jaundiced eye (as a firm proponent of the KISS principle) it looks like a job security policy for the engine house mechanics.
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
Here is a weird locomotive. It is a slow mover and rather prone to be a fire hazzard. No wonder this baby didn't make it into revenue service.
Ron
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alco49 wrote:OK, i'll try again.
This is more of the unusual rather than weird or ugly.
Mark, President of the Academy of Weird Locomotives
From the side maybe, but the top...
I think this only qualifies as weird if you don't live near the NEC. I live a few miles from the Northeast Corridor and AEM-7's are one of the most common locos I see.
AEM-7's have a European flavor because they are based on the Swedish Rc-4.
Ah, weird locomotives. One of my favorite subjects of railroading history.
My favorite has got to be the locomotive notorious for destroying the Whyte System...the 0-6-2+2-4-2-4-2+2-6-0 Franco-Crosti, no. 2096:
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/francocrosti/francocrosti.htm
I've dabled in weird locomotives myself...
Original Steasel Concept
Could that be a Fairbanks Morse T-Liner? That's right, an FM Turbine Experiment.
A modern day MoW truck, The Pack Mule.
And some other train drawings HERE.
Scott - Dispatcher, Norfolk Southern
TrainFreak409 wrote: Ah, weird locomotives. One of my favorite subjects of railroading history. My favorite has got to be the locomotive notorious for destroying the Whyte System...the 0-6-2+2-4-2-4-2+2-6-0 Franco-Crosti, no. 2096:http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/francocrosti/francocrosti.htmI've dabled in weird locomotives myself...Original Steasel ConceptCould that be a Fairbanks Morse T-Liner? That's right, an FM Turbine Experiment.A modern day MoW truck, The Pack Mule.And some other train drawings HERE.
You have MODELS too? Okay, now i'm jealous. And I may just have to borrow your Galloping Hummer. The Steasal's always cool, annd love me the turbines
-Morgan
I scanned this drawing from Iron Horses of the Santa Fe trail:
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Heartland Division CBandQ wrote: I scanned this drawing from Iron Horses of the Santa Fe trail:
Great, something else I wanna try to make a rendering off...Thanks a lot...
OK, I get the message, Chad and Mark! My sincere apologies to amtrak and everybody who wants to attack me because of that post. I dont have anything against european locos, just thought it looked a liitle unusual as an Amtrak loco. This had better not scar me for life...
Hmmm... I've always thought that Garratts were kinda peculiar. But how about this? The very first Cab Forward, NPC No. 21, the Thomas Stetson, right here in Marin County?
http://www.ironhorse129.com/Projects/Engines/NPC_21/NPC_No21.htm
... the granddaddy of all those AC-#'s that climbed through the Sierras a few decades later...
O.K yall like the strange try this,
Guess what this steamer is. (heads up, don't count on seeing this on U.S.A rails)
If you can read this... thank a teacher. If you are reading this in english... thank a veteran
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If it moves and isn't supposed to, get a hammer
If it doesn't move and is supposed to, get a hammer
If it's broken, get a hammer
If it can't be fixed with a hammer... DUCK TAPE!
teen steam fan wrote: O.K yall like the strange try this, Guess what this steamer is. (heads up, don't count on seeing this on U.S.A rails)
Looks like "Back to The Future"
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I don't know the type, but all I can think of is Mallard. It;s a european high speed (Britian I think) that took several steam speed records. It's cool, but it doesn't beat a Daylight in terms of good looks.
EDIT: It's on the front. It's an A4 Clsss
Ok VSmith, you win!!! That is quite a collection you have there. Can I ask, what is the big blue horseshoe shapped thing on the top of the boiler in the third pic?
AltoonaRailroader wrote: Ok VSmith, you win!!! That is quite a collection you have there. Can I ask, what is the big blue horseshoe shapped thing on the top of the boiler in the third pic?
Thanks
Its a coal bunker, the loco is an Americanized version of a Darjeeling Himilayn Railways Class B
My version: since added coal on top the bunker
I'm still working up the courage to build the DHR prototype, I'll have to one day. Roundhouse makes a live steamer version in my scale (1/22.5) but at +$3K I think I have a better chance of having Christina Ricci fall out of the sky onto my lap.
Have fun with your trains
Heres one of my favorite oddball locos, the Soviet AA20, a monster 4-14-4 locomotive known as the "Great Straightener of Curves"
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/russ/russrefr.htm
Would you believe the water tank? That's why the prototype has to stop for water eight times on a run of less than a hundred miles! (The Darjeeling-Himalayan also uses a crew of SEVEN to operate this little kettle - including two men who stand on the pilot beam and hand-sprinkle sand on the rails.)
Chuck (modeing Central Japan in September, 1964)
teen steam fan wrote:they aren't kiddin 14 drivers were does that sucker run?