The title alone caught me by surprise .... almost shock actually. North of the border in Ontario, it is illegal to smoke in ANY public establishment OR workplace .... it's even illegal to smoke in vehicles that are owned by a business or if kids are present in a vehicle. Fines are no slap on the wrist for offenders either !!!
Strange how accustomed we've got to the law, and when I saw "smoking in a hobby shop" I was really taken aback !!!
Mark.
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selector wrote: I would ask the person, discretely (not while a customer is within earshot) if he would be open to some feedback since his business at this store is quite new. If he seemed open to it, I would make the statement and do it in as neutral or positive a way as I could so as not to offend. But I would make it clear that my experience in his store was not as pleasant as I think it "could be." Then, it would be up to him/her to decide how they should respond, including changing their smoking habits inside the confines that customers would be forced to use while they shopped.-Crandell
I would ask the person, discretely (not while a customer is within earshot) if he would be open to some feedback since his business at this store is quite new. If he seemed open to it, I would make the statement and do it in as neutral or positive a way as I could so as not to offend. But I would make it clear that my experience in his store was not as pleasant as I think it "could be." Then, it would be up to him/her to decide how they should respond, including changing their smoking habits inside the confines that customers would be forced to use while they shopped.
-Crandell
People dont' change. Psychology 101.
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Guys, this thread has gone way out of porportion. It started as a guy asking for advice, now ya'll arguing over wether the guy should be allowed to smoke. I think this has gotten out of hand.
I think political correctness has gotten out of hand. This thread never was about anything related to model railroading.
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Are you telling me there are still places in this country where individual liberty exists. That is no longer the case in Ohio. Imagine, somewhere out there the owner of a small business can decide for himself if he wants to smoke in his own establishment and his customers are free to choose whether they want to patronize such an establishment. Is there an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that says people have a right to be free from ever being annoyed by someone else.
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You could always move to the Peoples Republic of Maryland... We're not allowed to smoke, drink, dance, listen to wicked Rock n' Roll music, read dirty magazines, or model in N scale... I of course, am a subversive...
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Shreve Rail wrote:For 30-40 years, our city had one major hobby shop and everything was fine. The owner died, the place closed. Now there is a new hobby shop. It is a nice place. ............Question: What should I do?Any suggestions?
Since you asked.
Ed
loathar wrote: steve58 wrote: The resturants around here that choose not to have smoking sections no longer meet my requirements, so I don't go there. Here, here!!
steve58 wrote: The resturants around here that choose not to have smoking sections no longer meet my requirements, so I don't go there.
The resturants around here that choose not to have smoking sections no longer meet my requirements, so I don't go there.
Here, here!!
SMOKING SECTION? Did restaurants used to have SMOKING SECTIONS? You mean I could have actually sat down and enjoyed a pre-dinner Newport with my beer or a post-dinner Newport with my coffee without having to go outside in the rain and catch pneumonia?
Well, DANG!
Tom
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steve58 wrote:The resturants around here that choose not to have smoking sections no longer meet my requirements, so I don't go there.
IF there is no law or ordinace covering smoking in businesses, I have a hard time seeing the issue. You want to tell the OWNER that he (and/or) she can't smoke in their own shop?!
As an individual, you choose where to go that meets your needs and requirements. If that shop does not, then so be it.
Is there an ordinance in your city/town that prohibits smoking in retail stores? If there is, you can either be direct and inform them diplomatically, or indirectly by notifying the Health commissioner for your city/town, who will have a nice talk with them.
Smoking is a terrible addiction, and the tobacco companies are not helping by increasing the addiction properties in cigarettes. Although everyone knows that there are 53 known, proven carcinogens in cigarettes, some people sadly cannot see what it is doing to them, they prefer to roll the dice.....but you as a customer have a choice.
That's a tricky one. Here in California, you can't smoke in a business establishment (in fact you can hardly smoke ANYWHERE here thanks to the "PC'ers" driving around in their gas-guzzling SUV's and yelling at us 12% that we're polluting the place with our nasty old tobacco when they catch us on our front porches while birds are falling out of the trees because of THEIR carbon monoxide emissions, LOL!).
HOWEVER, since the owner of the shop does smoke (a habit harder to 'kick' than Heroin addiction, BTW) and it appears to be legal where you live, I'd gently suggest that possibly he install a fan in the store to circulate the air a little better, which might keep the tobacco smell from settling on your clothing. I smoke, but believe me, I KNOW how it smells, especially for a non-smoker--it's not a pleasant odor, so you have my sympathy. That's why I always do my smoking outdoors AWAY from non-smokers. For me, it's just common courtesy. Perhaps it will become so for the new owner and his wife if they see it's affecting their business.
Just my thoughts.
I know what shop your talking about, usually the front door is wide open, I assume to let the smoke out, I agree, some days it is pretty bad but I have never really thought about saying anything. Being I'm an ex-smoker (eights months and counting) I probably still don't smell it as much as a non smoker would. I wouldn't want that smell on a brand new engine I just purchased.
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First impulse: B. Just politly say to the guy "You know, I would really appreciate it if you wouldn't smoke. I only notice when I step back on the street", or somnething like that. Don't be heartless or whatever. If the guy seems like he'd hold a grudge, choice A]
He owns it he can do whatever he wants,either suck it up or move on.A smoker.