New guy and looking for euro modelers

[Rommel]

Heres the reason Ive been quite I figured I take a break and share with you guys feel free to go to my blog site for more before and after shots.

[Modeling & Painting Blog by G-dog and Friends] First pictures of
Layout construction.




Same view but without bay & Submarine from prev. picture/blog






Here is the table that was taken out...the u-boat and scenery will be recycled into the new layout



focusing on the Island of Sylt that was connected by a man made cause way called the Hindenburgdamm. On the Island of Sylt there was a narrow gauge railway that also serviced the military am planning on a small midget submarine (seehunds) base with torpedoes and supplies brought in by the main railway then transferred to the narrow line to service the army base. The other end of layout will be the city of Hamburg Germany with a grand station and glass canopy train shed for passenger service. Freight and passenger service will be the focus on this layout during war time operations in what euro modelers refer to as "era II modeling" plans also include a waybill system for fun operating sessions for 1 to 4 people. and if time permits a trolly system in the city. Most of the carpentry is just about done (thank goodness) soon Ill get to laying track installing turn outs and ballasting. then some scenery and backdrop painting. the fun stuff .

[Rommel]

Pleasure Did you buy the loco already? That particular one is no longer available...

I did nothing special, maybe I was just lucky. Or does the German Ebay site show only products to you that have been tagged by the seller as being available in the US?

Harry 

YES I grap it ,nobody in USA had one Im very glad you helped me locate that ,everyone in USA says maybe by spring they could get them in. "Got to spend it before someone else gets it' if you know what I mean. now I can order some rolling stock and some track , after I plan things out on paper! Since Ive never done narrow gauge having some on hand to help with size and feel should be a great help in track planning.

It was also nice to deal with a store that had paypal that was a big help with money bank transfers costing around $30.00 I didnt want to go that route.

Thanks again if we ever have the chance to meet I owe you a cold one!

 

[tewahipounamu]

Pleasure Did you buy the loco already? That particular one is no longer available...

I did nothing special, maybe I was just lucky. Or does the German Ebay site show only products to you that have been tagged by the seller as being available in the US?

Harry 

[Rommel]

Ive contacted alot of online stores looking for this seems everyone is out if anyone knows of a place that may have one Id love to hear from you Thanks

Right now, there are three on German Ebay, one for 150 Euros + shipping

Harry

THANK YOU!

I just sent a email asking about shipping to USA hopfully Ill hear back soon and I just wait for it to arrive awesome! thank you

I did a searce on ebay a few times please tell me how you found this whats the secret to shopping for euro items....wow!

[tewahipounamu]

Ive contacted alot of online stores looking for this seems everyone is out if anyone knows of a place that may have one Id love to hear from you Thanks

Right now, there are three on German Ebay, one for 150 Euros + shipping

Harry

[Rommel]

I have not tried the Resin kits yet, I am still new and attempting to model what I can. .

You might find these to your liking then, They are a one piece body with just a roof to clue on very simple assembly! With gaming items the main difference in kits is that the focus is on painting not putting time into model building its funny I started as a train person then got into war-gaming what stands out between the two is that the train kits always seem much more detailed in the assembly part, for me the end result is how its painted and all that time doesn't matter but I do understand that part, is part of the hobby I'm a bit impatient so resin kits help me get to the part I enjoy most painting weathering and detailing.

[GTX765]

I have not tried the Resin kits yet, I am still new and attempting to model what I can. The Euro rail hobbies is the best! He treats me right and will attempt to get anything I need. I would see if he has it in stock. He has had the rare German rail in stock before.

[Rommel]

I am modeling Euro too, I am doing German era two with mainly military and frieght wagons. I have a TRIX Br 01 and a Brawa BR 19 pulling heavy flat cars with panzer tanks. I do like the Euro  stuff but if it says made in Germany it is pricy but good quality. I have ordered from alot of the vendors listed. If you need advice or help let me know. Alot of the German dealers will sell to you at a cheaper price than listed because they will knock off the VAT tax. The shipping is around $30 though.

The BR19 is awesome stream lined black beauty I to have one Sweet engine,

I sent you a email asking for any contacts for the Roco #33233 engine you might have!

I'm planning on using a lot of "flames of War" stuff on my layout the scale is good and the options for flat loads and scenic details is great all their stuff is 15mm or 1/100 scale close to HO at 1/87 and the people size give a forced prospective that feels & looks right and compared to roco and prieser the pricing is awesome I can get three Kubelwagen Jeeps made of resin for $9.00 a blister two of them make a great flat car load after you paint them . Check out Flames of War its a miniature war gaming system, if you need interesting flat car loads.

Cheers

[GTX765]

I am modeling Euro too, I am doing German era two with mainly military and frieght wagons. I have a TRIX Br 01 and a Brawa BR 19 pulling heavy flat cars with panzer tanks. I do like the Euro  stuff but if it says made in Germany it is pricy but good quality. I have ordered from alot of the vendors listed. If you need advice or help let me know. Alot of the German dealers will sell to you at a cheaper price than listed because they will knock off the VAT tax. The shipping is around $30 though.

[Rommel]

33233

German Army Steam Loco HF 110 C, In Field Grey Livery. Epoche II. DCC Ready.

Looking to buy

I also maybe able to offer some trades for this loco I have some brand new era 2 engines and some NKP stuff.

contact me at [e-mail]

Ive contacted alot of online stores looking for this seems everyone is out if anyone knows of a place that may have one Id love to hear from you Thanks

[andrechapelon]

Hey Guys wondering what magazines you might know of that cover german railroading and have subscriptions for US ???

 

I think Peco in the UK publishes a mag named Continental Modeler that covers German railroading.  It may only be modern era, though. 

Continental Modeler covers all eras. In fact, it doesn't limit itself to Continental Europe. 3 of the articles in the current issue deal with North American railroads.

http://www.peco-uk.com/Publications/ContinentalM_this.htm

Andre

[Rommel]

33233

German Army Steam Loco HF 110 C, In Field Grey Livery. Epoche II. DCC Ready.

 

Looking to buy

I also maybe able to offer some trades for this loco I have some brand new era 2 engines and some NKP stuff.

contact me at [e-mail]

[Rommel]

Just found some great items here

http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1

 

Did a searce for "sylt" the eisenbahn book as been ordered a few others WOW finally some resources to look over I also found a sylt light house at the reynaults site and a very cool narrow gauge train in army gray i can picture this bringing supplies around the island.

33233 - Narrow Gauge Steam Loco German Army

Details   Product Code: RA4557 ISBN13 / EAN: 9783882554557 ISBN10: 388255455X Author(s): Rolf Stumpf Product Type: Book Weight: 643g Price: £18.95

Description

The railway linking the German coastal island area of Sylt to the mainland is covered in this historical survey. The development of the lines and the embankment link is chronicled through the years to the present day operations. German text. 10 maps/track plans. 134 b/w and 32 colour photos. 192 pages. Laminated hardback

[tewahipounamu]

I'm sure you noticed the link to the information on the causeway's construction on that Hindenburg Damm wikipedia page. Be sure to check out the homepage of that site and look for every occurrence of "Sylt" - they have quite a few good photos that give you an idea what Sylt looked like.

I tried to translate the text of the last postcard on the causeway construction pages:

"The New Way - Sylt Causeway Construction - the Masterpiece of German Spirit, German Technology

"In spring 1923 the massive construction was started, having a base width of 50 m, crest width of 11 m, height of 8 m, and a length of 11 km. Avoids the passage through New Danmark, former German land, that has been taken from us without fight by the regulations of the Treaty of Versailles. May it be a symbol of strength and will. ..."

So much for that...

There is also a diploma thesis on "Der Personenverkehr über den Hindenburgdamm und die Sylter Inselbahn". However, I can't tell you if it's helpful or interesting in any way.

Harry 

[Rommel]

WOW Marc do you work for the Railroad gods?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH lots of stuff I needed

[MStLfan]

Loving the responses Im not feeling so alone now LOL thanks Peter!

Ive found a railway Im going to model but am having a bit of a hard time locating info about Sylt during WW2 so the basics are,

• In the 19th century, tourism starts; Westerland replaces Keitum as the capital
• During World War I, Sylt becomes a military outpost, but does not suffer from war damage
• In 1927, a rail causeway to the mainland is built, the Hindenburgdamm, named after Paul von Hindenburg
• During World War II, Sylt becomes a fortress, with concrete bunkers built below the dunes at the shore, some of which are still visible today.

Sylt is connected to the German mainland by the Hindenburgdamm, a causeway with a railway line on top -this is crying to be modeled do a searce for pictures -very cool!

This should be a great thing to model with standard and narrow gauge and the trains servicing the island ( naval and airforce)from the main land...WOW Im in heaven.... since I dont speak german (but picking things up now) Looking on sites for more info is tough THANK GOD for the translation sites.

Anyone with info or ideas Id love to hear from you!

Nice choice for a model, be ready to model grassy fields, dunes and ugly seaside resort buildings. The following publishers have published a book about the island railways of the North Sea and Sylt is in it: Alba Verlag (Hans-W. Rogl: Die Nordsee-Inselbahnen. 6. Auflage, alba, Düsseldorf 1996, ISBN 3-87094-230-4) and GeraMond Verlag (Malte Werning: Inselbahnen der Nordsee. GeraMond Verlag, München 2003, ISBN 3-7654-7245-X). Other books of interest: Hans Bock: Die Marschbahn von Altona nach Westerland. Boyens, Heide 1989, ISBN 3-8042-0458-9 (Altona is in Hamburg and westerland is the main town on the island) and Jan Kirschner: Blumen pflücken während der Fahrt verboten. Geschichte der Sylter Inselbahn. Schleswig-Holsteiner Zeitungsverlag, Flensburg 2002, ISBN 3-926055-29-4. I have not seen the last to books myself.

Sylt had 2 narrow gauge railways (1000mm) running north and south from Westerland, the terminus of the standard gauge from the mainland. The lines merged before WW2 and were closed in the 1960's. After WW2 the narrow gauge lines were dieselized with a wide variety of cars, some converted streetcars from mainland West Germany and a combination of truck and special trailer (build by Borgward of Bremen).

To get an idea what ran on North German narrow gauge lines check out this site : http://www.carocar.com/html/triebfahrzeuge_2.html

This site has pictures of this North German Galloping Goose: http://www.luftschutz-bunker.de/vergessene-orte/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=38 , I only got the first few pictures but it seems to have more pictures about the narrow gauge steam and diesel engines and railcars.

Info on all German Island railways, including pictures: http://www.inselbahn.de/index.php?nav=1000011 click on the pictures for larger versions.

greetings,

Marc Immeker

[Rommel]

Hi guys,

My name is Barry Kriegsman, I am president of the Eastern New England Chapter of European Train Enthusiasts. We are one of the most active chapters in the United States. Or next regular chapter meeting is on Saturday Febuary 16th in Foxboro, MA. If you want to meet fellow Euro train enthusiasts please do yourself a favor & contact me at [e-mail] or call me at 508-543-6804 or visit our web site http://www.ete-ene.org/ . I am also modeling IORE & LKAB & plan on building a operating underground IORE layout & have received info from LKAB in Sweden. Our mission is to help fellow enthusiasts in the hobby. Please do yourself a huge favor & contact myself or visit our web site.

Thanks Barry I was going to give up trying to contact you guys Ive been to the web sites and have sent three emails to three differant people, I also went to the show in Mass. to see that awesome layout but the table was so mobbed I didn't have a chance to talk with anyone heck I even had the application for membership on me all filled out but you poor guys where swamped.

I was thinking membership was closed glad its not .

Gordon Hollis NH [e-mail]

 

[Anonymous]

Hi guys,

My name is Barry Kriegsman, I am president of the Eastern New England Chapter of European Train Enthusiasts. We are one of the most active chapters in the United States. Or next regular chapter meeting is on Saturday Febuary 16th in Foxboro, MA. If you want to meet fellow Euro train enthusiasts please do yourself a favor & contact me at [e-mail] or call me at 508-543-6804 or visit our web site http://www.ete-ene.org/ . I am also modeling IORE & LKAB & plan on building a operating underground IORE layout & have received info from LKAB in Sweden. Our mission is to help fellow enthusiasts in the hobby. Please do yourself a huge favor & contact myself or visit our web site.

[Rommel]

Loving the responses Im not feeling so alone now LOL thanks Peter!

Ive found a railway Im going to model but am having a bit of a hard time locating info about Sylt during WW2 so the basics are,

• In the 19th century, tourism starts; Westerland replaces Keitum as the capital
• During World War I, Sylt becomes a military outpost, but does not suffer from war damage
• In 1927, a rail causeway to the mainland is built, the Hindenburgdamm, named after Paul von Hindenburg
• During World War II, Sylt becomes a fortress, with concrete bunkers built below the dunes at the shore, some of which are still visible today.

Sylt is connected to the German mainland by the Hindenburgdamm, a causeway with a railway line on top -this is crying to be modeled do a searce for pictures -very cool!

This should be a great thing to model with standard and narrow gauge and the trains servicing the island ( naval and airforce)from the main land...WOW Im in heaven.... since I dont speak german (but picking things up now) Looking on sites for more info is tough THANK GOD for the translation sites.

Anyone with info or ideas Id love to hear from you!

 

[verheyen]

Hello, and welcome to the world of European trains.

As evidenced by your response there are many more Euros in these fora as one might guess. I wouldn't consider it the dark side by any stretch, no more so than US prototype modeling is (or should be) the dark side for a Euro. So, where to begin... I'm going to assume you're sticking with DC (as opposed to AC/Märklin).

In terms of organizations, I can heartily recommend European Train Enthusiasts (ETE). At $20/ year a bargain, and they have a very active Chapter in New England. Get in touch with them, they'd be more than happy to talk with you. Perhaps you saw them at the Amherst show in Springfield, MA. You might even want join.

Manufacturers that would fit your period interest: Fleischmann, Brawa, Roco, Trix. 

Publications: Sounds like you've started. There really isn't much in English specific to German railways. I get MIBA, and pay from the here in the US with my creditcard. Most German sites do not seem creditcard friendly, but if you click on contact to ask the question will almost always be helped very quickly. If you want, I can send you the emails of my contacts at MIBA and VGBahn (distributors of MIBA, Eisenbahn Journal, Modelleisenbahner, and Rio Grande (videos)). They get far too much of my money, especially given the exchange rates. Eisenbahn Kurier has some great books. Yes, almost all of these will be in German only, comes with the territory of wanting to model something in a foreign land. That said, the pictures are often great and say more than the words. Yes, I'm fluent in German (native) but I find myself spending more time looking than reading. Of course it also depends on what you want to depict or learn about. 

Online: While German is dominant, they are tolerant of non-German speakers and even indulge by answering in English. Google's translation tool does a passable job. For more context specific translation I really recommend Leo. VERY good. But, let's start with the English sites (I'm being specifically manufacturer agnostic):

• Railways of Germany
• World Railfans 
• European Train Enthusiasts (Listserv for members only)

German: 

• Drehscheibe Online (For images and history the Historisches Forum particularly)
• Eisenbahn Kurier
• Stummis Modelleisenbahn Forum
  

Vendors:

• Euro Train Hobby: Primarily eastern European focus (DR, DB, PKP, SZD, CSD, ...). Also Auhagen kits including Stipps card models for backgrounds.
• Reynauld's Euro-Trains: Everything
• Modellbahn Herring: Larry Herring's eBay store. Lots of automobiles, figures, and other detailing supplies.
• TEE_USA / Eurolokshop: Sells Roco, Mehano, Fleischmann, L.S. Models, ACME, Heris, Piko, and others including many in AC versions.
• Westend Toronto Trains: Märklin and Trix.

Don't be afraid to order from Germany though. 

• ETS: Eisenbahn-Treffpunkt Schweickhardt: Very reliable mail order from Waiblingen, Germany.
• Lokshop
• Modellzentrum Hildesheim

In terms of other resources check out my web pages.

Please feel free to contact me if you have further questions. In the end, modeling European trains aren't that different from American. Same layout design, wiring, ... issues. Even many of the structures are interchangeable, especially industrial (just change windows/doors/roof details). Looks like you're good at helping yourself along too in terms of scratchbuilding.

Best regards,

Peter

[Lillen]

I'd really like a set of DM3s, but they're around US$600 locally.  Thanks for the pics in brown - I much prefer it to the new image blue!

 

I agree, the brown was better.

 

600 dollar is cheaper then they usually go for around here. I was lucky to get mine for that recently which was cheap and on a sale, before that sudden cost reduction(I believe Roco is clearing them out) they where about 1200 dollars. European trains are VERY expensive.

 

If you need one I would suggest you get one as soon as possible since I believe they will disappear. Do you know if there are any brown ones available in the US somewhere? They are out here since a long time ago and I would love to get one.

 

The one you got available locally is it brown or blue?

 

Check out the new DA engine that Roco will be releasing soon. That is a very nice engine and I will be getting one. We call them "Brun lok" around here.(Brown engines)

 

http://www.tee-usa.com/store/product6470.html

 

 

 

Magnus

[HeavyDuty]

I'd really like a set of DM3s, but they're around US$600 locally.  Thanks for the pics in brown - I much prefer it to the new image blue!

[Lillen]

Those DM3s are amazing!  Do you happen to have any pictures of how they looked in earlier paint?

 

I love them to. They used to be painted brown.

 

Heres a pic:

 

 

 

 

Magnus

[HeavyDuty]

Those DM3s are amazing!  Do you happen to have any pictures of how they looked in earlier paint?

[Lillen]

I'm European so I do have an interest in European trains. For a time I did consider modeling either the Swedish railroads or Germany. But my love for America made me turn to that. Well that and the fact that everything is much cheaper in the US.

 

But I do collect Swedish engines. So far trains that are a part of the iron ore mining in northern Sweden but I'm going to get some more, if only for display. Here are some pics on an IORE and a DM3:

 

DM3:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IORE:

 

 

 

 

 

[MStLfan]

I think Peco in the UK publishes a mag named Continental Modeler that covers German railroading.  It may only be modern era, though. 

I have a subscription and I like the magazine for its wide variety of articles. My taste in railroading is very catholic and side by side you can read articles about a model of Swiss narrow gauge (by someone from, say, New Zealand), pictures from a trip to Canada (by someone from Japan) followed by drawings of a steamer from India and a product review of a diesel loco from Australia. What you won't find are articles aboutthe British Isles (for those you need Railway Modeller also by Peco), including Ireland and Isle of Man. The German content is therefore relatively low and mostly modern (post 1980) or period 3 (say 1950-1980). If you love railroading in general and modelling then that magazine is just fine. If you want to concentrate on Germany, stick with the German magazines.

greetings,

Marc Immeker

[Marc_Magnus]

Hi Rommel,

I am a Belgian and modeling Nscale american prototypes since more than 20 years.

My Maclau River RR is in a completiting stag; the port is nearby finished as the engines terminal (steam).A big city is on the starting block. In the planning is a big yard with all the commodities modeled.

I am largely inspired by the work of the late John Allen and Georges sellios.

See some picks of my railroad at  www.Nscale.org  and choice private album at the letter "M"

Even I'm modeling in Nscale, I will be happy to help you.

Some weeks ago I publish on the forum a topic about a electromagnetic uncoupler which work with Kadee couplers.

See you later.

Marc

[HeavyDuty]

Hey Guys wondering what magazines you might know of that cover german railroading and have subscriptions for US ???

 

I think Peco in the UK publishes a mag named Continental Modeler that covers German railroading.  It may only be modern era, though. 

[Rommel]

Thank you very much, that was very helpful!

As Im new to Euro modeling my need for info will be greatly satisfied with those awesome links!

Thanks again