GP30 Road Slug help please!

[Anonymous]

     I'm getting ready to model a CSX GP30 slug, and I've managed to locate a lot of pics of each side, but none of the roof. I know the fans need to be removed, but were they plated over? Or was the entire fan panel removed. Also I have to remove the exhaust, but again, is it just plated over?

       Anybody know where I can find good roof shots of these units??

[rgappel]

I don't know if there are any roof shots, but this website has almost every CSX loco on it.

http://www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/

[Anonymous]

I don't know if there are any roof shots, but this website has almost every CSX loco on it.

http://www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/

Thanks! But after checking all the road slug pics, the only roof shot was a GP35 road slug, not a GP30.

Any other suggestions??

 

[Soo Line fan]

Go to Yahoo and Google, select images and type in “CSX ###” and see what happens. Obviously you need to know the RNs of the slugs but this may find what you are looking for.

Another suggestion is to join some of the various Yahoo CSX groups and look in the photo sections.

Jim

[CSX_road_slug]

I'm getting ready to model a CSX GP30 slug, ...  Anybody know where I can find good roof shots of these units?

Here's a few I found on rrpicturearchives.net:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=21980 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=29584

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=512387

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=748914 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=613618 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=731512 

 

 

[Anonymous]

Here's a few I found on rrpicturearchives.net.  This is only the beginning, I'll add more roof shots as I find them.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=21980 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=321561

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=512387

Great pics Ken!

Judging from your screen name, maybe you can answer a question. On the rear hood on each side, is that a porch light?

[CSX_road_slug]

Great pics Ken!

Judging from your screen name, maybe you can answer a question. On the rear hood on each side, is that a porch light?

I'm not sure Karl, I don't think every unit has them; I added a few more photo links to my original reply, take a look at #2248 and you'll see what I mean...

[rs2mike]

Ok what is a road slug and what is its purpose or job?  New to the whole deal and do not know much about them.  Though they seem interesting to model with no fans.

mike

[loathar]

I've been running into the same problem looking for GP-40 top shots. Thanks for posting thos e Ken! Got a couple 40's in there too.

[philnrunt]

   rs2mike- road slugs are engines that have their diesels removed, but their traction motors left operable. They can still look like a regular road engine, but most RRs cut (basically) the top half of the body off. They fabricate a new roof, fill the space where the diesel was with (usually) cement for weight and mate them to another operating engine. That engine, through cables connecting the two, powers the traction motors of the slug to give the pulling power of two complete engines, but with only one diesel engine. They are used in heavy switching service, like railroad yards or certain industrial settings.

   Check out some of the photo links mentioned above, you will see what I so feebly tried to describe!

[R. T. POTEET]

Thanks! But after checking all the road slug pics, the only roof shot was a GP35 road slug, not a GP30.

Any other suggestions??

This may not be an entirely rational question but can someone provide me some insight into why the roof of a GP35 Road Slug and the roof of a GP30 Road Slug are going to be anything more than ever-so minutely different???

[twcenterprises]

Thanks! But after checking all the road slug pics, the only roof shot was a GP35 road slug, not a GP30.

Any other suggestions??

This may not be an entirely rational question but can someone provide me some insight into why the roof of a GP35 Road Slug and the roof of a GP30 Road Slug are going to be anything more than ever-so minutely different???

The GP30 had a very distinct roof, unlike any other diesel ever built.  The cab did not have a flat roof with angled corners like the later GP and SD units, but neither did it have a continuous curve, radius roof like on the earlier GP, SD, and switcher models.  The cab had a flat roof with rounded corners.  Probably the most distinctive feature, even moreso than the cab roof, was the raised section of hoodtop, running from the front of the cab to the front of the radiators.  The GP35 roof was similar to the roofs on all the other second generation GP and SD units. 

Compare the photos of the roofs of the GP30 road slugs to the adjacent GP units, and see how much difference there is.

Brad 

[rs2mike]

   rs2mike- road slugs are engines that have their diesels removed, but their traction motors left operable. They can still look like a regular road engine, but most RRs cut (basically) the top half of the body off. They fabricate a new roof, fill the space where the diesel was with (usually) cement for weight and mate them to another operating engine. That engine, through cables connecting the two, powers the traction motors of the slug to give the pulling power of two complete engines, but with only one diesel engine. They are used in heavy switching service, like railroad yards or certain industrial settings.

   Check out some of the photo links mentioned above, you will see what I so feebly tried to describe!

Thanks for the info.  I think I saw pics on here once not to long ago of a rs-2 with a slug? that was chopped in half and cab removed.  It was kind of neat looking. 

[R. T. POTEET]

..........The GP30 had a very distinct roof, unlike any other diesel ever built..........

Goll-ly!!! You'd have thought that after forty-five years in this hobby I'd have realized that there is a difference between a GP30 and a GP35. You can sure learn something new every day here on the forum!!!

Now that I have been blessed with this profound knowledge let's get back to kbfcsme's original post: WHAT DOES HE DO WITH THE FANS - AND THE EXHAUST - ON THE ROOF OF A GP30????? Why wouldn't a photo of the roof of a GP35 Slug give me guidance for what CSX would have done to the roof of their GP30 modifications since, as I understand it, these were all done at approximately the same time?

Don't I recall an article in, I believe, RMC from a few years back dealing with this modification?

[Anonymous]

..........The GP30 had a very distinct roof, unlike any other diesel ever built..........

Goll-ly!!! You'd have thought that after forty years in this hobby I'd have realized that there is a difference between a GP30 and a GP35. You can sure learn something new every day here on the forum!!!

Now that I have been blessed with this profound knowledge let's get back to kbfcsme's original post: WHAT DOES HE DO WITH THE FANS - AND THE EXHAUST - ON THE ROOF OF A GP30????? Why wouldn't a photo of the roof a GP35 Slug give me guidance for what CSX would have done to the roof of their GP30 modifications since, as I understand it, these were all done at approximately the same time?

Don't I recall an article in, I believe, RMC from a few years back dealing with this modification?

From what I can see of the pics,Looks like the dynamic brake fan stays, the rest get removed and plated over!

By the time I get done cutting the fans, exhaust and most of the side doors off, there isnt going to be much left, kinda like making a sausage!

Thanks guys!

[Anonymous]

   rs2mike- road slugs are engines that have their diesels removed, but their traction motors left operable. They can still look like a regular road engine, but most RRs cut (basically) the top half of the body off. They fabricate a new roof, fill the space where the diesel was with (usually) cement for weight and mate them to another operating engine. That engine, through cables connecting the two, powers the traction motors of the slug to give the pulling power of two complete engines, but with only one diesel engine. They are used in heavy switching service, like railroad yards or certain industrial settings.

   Check out some of the photo links mentioned above, you will see what I so feebly tried to describe!

CSX also uses them in local service. I've got pics of one in a consist at Highfield MD, where CSX interchanges with the Maryland Midland. (Hence, the reason I want one!)

[Anonymous]

Great pics Ken!

Judging from your screen name, maybe you can answer a question. On the rear hood on each side, is that a porch light?

I'm not sure Karl, I don't think every unit has them; I added a few more photo links to my original reply, take a look at #2248 and you'll see what I mean...

U da Man Ken!

Many, many thanks!!!!

[cf-7]

Look at my site - I have modeled a few and perhaps my photos might help.

[Anonymous]

Ohhhh,,,Ahhhhhh,,,,nice stuff Chuck!!!!

Thanks!

[loathar]

Chuck-Nice! That answered some lift ring questions I had.

[R. T. POTEET]

From what I can see of the pics,Looks like the dynamic brake fan stays, the rest get removed and plated over!

By the time I get done cutting the fans, exhaust and most of the side doors off, there isnt going to be much left, kinda like making a sausage!

Since there is nothing inside the body of these slugs except weight the only thing you would have to have would be the dynamic break fan and resistor grids AND the air-intake grills; buried somewhere in that body is some sort of a fan to provide air for those traction motors. The photo of a GP35 slug on page 300 of Kalmbach's The Contemporary Diesel Spotter's Guide (Milwaukee, 1989) by Marre and Pinkepank shows unit 2200 looking like someone gave it a Marine Corps hairdo!

I did a search of the all-time index and could find nothing about GP30 Road slugs; if there was a conversion article it probably dealt with a different locomotive.

[rs2mike]

Would anyone have done this to a rs-2,3,4,5.  If so would any of you guys have any pics of this.  For that matter someone on here just recently had pics of a remote controlled deisel in a yard.  I have a couple rs-2 that have no fuel tank with them do you think it would be cool to have a remote controlled rs on the ol layout.  Now I am freelance so prototypical is not realllllly a concern for me.