Hi, before you go, they are to big let me say I have a plan. I thought about using a wider then average bench work where these would be. They would be on the opposite side from where I reach. That way they don't take to much valuable real estate. The thing is that I came from modelling warships originally to this hobby and the idea of combining them would be great.
It could be anywhere from lets say 1/70 to 1/150 to match the scale. I can always just say that is far away and looks smaller or something. This is for a future project where I want to include ships and a large port. For this scene I can spare around 10 feet. So any suggestions would be great.
Magnus
Can't recall what they were called but why not use the torpedo boats that Kennedy served on?
I've been thinking about those, Revell makes a 1/72 PT boat but I want a larger warship or a sub.
One of the hobby shops here has a 1/72 scale kit for a Gato class submarine. This was an American fleet submarine in service from 1941 until the 1960's. Many were sold to other nations. They also have a similar sized model of a WWII German U-boat. Unfortunately, I didn't take note of the brand name. Try searching the web for ship modelers and they will probably have more information.
PS - At one time someone had made a few "kits" for a 1/72 scale model of the USS Enterprise, the model was almost 18 feet long (about 6 meters)!
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Here are some:
1/125 LTC from Linberg:
1/72 Sub from Revell:
also from Revell, 1/72 PT Boat:
From Revell Germany 1/72 British Vosper MTB Boat :
Not much to choose from, and almost nothing big. But a fair representation of a navel base could be had with the above.
Lillen wrote: I've been thinking about those, Revell makes a 1/72 PT boat but I want a larger warship or a sub.Magnus
Obvious solution... a Sub submerged only needs the snorkel(s), periscope and arials modelled...
OR, if you must have a Carrier...
Just model the bowline rising from a bollard on scene up toward the Carrier off scene.
Maybe put one of the enormous anchors on a multi axle centre depressed car?
Lindberg Models makes a 1/125th model of a Fletcher Class detroyer that is about 3' long.
Rick
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Don't know what scale(s) they are, but some of our fellow (non-railroad) modelers build models of battleships and cruisers big enough to mount BB-guns, reasonably powerful electric drives and radio control receivers for same. They are NOT small. (They also have light balsa sides vulnerable to BB fire, and can actually sink if sufficiently shot up.)
If the rail facilities are going to be in front of the ship, a slightly SMALLER scale model will look realistic - which means those 1/72 models would be fine on an S-scale (1/64) model railroad, but improbable on an HO (1/87) empire. ("Pardon me. Why are all your deck hands 2.3 meters tall?") For HO, I'd suggest using 1/96 scale ships.
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
dti406 wrote: Lindberg Models makes a 1/125th model of a Fletcher Class detroyer that is about 3' long. Rick
I had either this one or something similar about 30 years ago. It was motorized and took a long time to build (had to add all the stanchions).
Small addition to my previous post.
Those "fast gun" live-fire warships are built to 1/144 scale.
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with rivers navigable by kayakers with death wishes)
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HO Scale
USS NIMITZ CARRIER WILL BE 150" LONG AND 34+ WIDE.
VIRGINIA CLASS SUBMARINE 52" LONG AND 4+" WIDE
WWII LIBERTY SHIP 60+" LONG AND 7+" WIDE
USS MISSOURI 122" LONG AND 14+" WIDE
ESSEX CLASS CARRIER 124" LONG AND 27" WIDE
Sounds like it's time to scratch build.
CHUCK
IRONHORSE77 wrote: HO ScaleUSS NIMITZ CARRIER WILL BE 150" LONG AND 34+ WIDE.VIRGINIA CLASS SUBMARINE 52" LONG AND 4+" WIDEWWII LIBERTY SHIP 60+" LONG AND 7+" WIDEUSS MISSOURI 122" LONG AND 14+" WIDEESSEX CLASS CARRIER 124" LONG AND 27" WIDESounds like it's time to scratch build.CHUCK
I don't feel that the problem is in size. They are quite narrow in comparison to their length. If you put one at the back of the bench work it won't effect the amount of space I can reach over anyways.
Also, this is for my next layout that will happen in anything between 8 months to 5 years now depending on fiscal reasons.(going to expand the house). But where it will be I otherwise need to curve into since the room is irregularly shaped. If I just keep the mainline straight here and let the yard expand 60 cm inward I have an additional 60 cm that is out of reach. Since I don't need to put tracks 60 cm in I can easily expand this to fit a ship up to 9-10 feet and 20-40 inches wide if necessary.
i see this as an opportunity to combine several of my interests, naval ship building, naval history and railroading, all in the same space. Now I realize that the biggest battleship possible might not be a good idea. But a WWII submarine or corvette should be very plausible.
Thanks for all your help guys.
Cousteau's research vessel "Calypso" was based on a war surplus mine sweeper. I believe there was a plastic kit that was available in 1/125th (Revell?). It might be possible to kitbash it back to it original military configuration - or use it as reference for a scratchbuilt model.
George
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If you really want to go all out, these folks http://www.maritimereplicas.com/ will custom build you anything you want (maritime related). They will even build you and entire seaport. Don't worry about the cost. They are well worth it.
Thanks for the links guys keep them coming. I'm looking into all of them, it's not like I'm in a hurry!
There are a lot of interesting possibilities here I must say.