I assume you mean taconite cars. Loading taconite was a very dusty operation so taconite cars very quickly developed a coating of rusty/pinkish dust. This BN taconite car is very typical of one that has been in service for a few years.
Oooh, I like this thread how about some Coal cars too. I have a few 2 bay hoppers And I'm not sure how to weather the inside and some ref photos or pics of models would be great.
J.P.
UP2CSX wrote: I assume you mean taconite cars. Loading taconite was a very dusty operation so taconite cars very quickly developed a coating of rusty/pinkish dust. This BN taconite car is very typical of one that has been in service for a few years.
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tatans wrote:Tactonite?? you mean those cars are only meant for tactonite?? I assumed an ore car was to be used for any kind of ore, how about kryptonite?? I'm sure you can use these cars for anything, even gravel.
Taconite cars are actually very specialized versions of ore cars. The first difference is that taconite balls are loaded hot at about 3,000 degress so taconite cars have to be built to withstand the heat. Secondly, taconite balls are about three times as heavy per cubic foot as powder iron ore so taconite cars carry more weight but have less cubic foot capacity than other ore cars. Thirdly, the method of unloading the taconite balls differers considerably from iron ore cars. That's why the rod and gate assemblies seen in the BN car look different than those of powder iron ore cars.
Next time, before you say you're sure about something, look it up.
From what I understand there is also differences in the dimensions between the Yooper cars and the Minnesota cars. Doesn't that have to do with the ore docks?
My father in law works at the Tilden mine in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, and when he comes home his car is always a nice shade of a dark reddish color.
UP2CSX wrote: tatans wrote:Tactonite?? you mean those cars are only meant for tactonite?? I assumed an ore car was to be used for any kind of ore, how about kryptonite?? I'm sure you can use these cars for anything, even gravel.ooooops! I failed to see the word taconite in the original posting,(I'm sure about that) but I'll bet, if you really wanted to haul gravel these cars they would work just fine, eh? Taconite cars are actually very specialized versions of ore cars. The first difference is that taconite balls are loaded hot at about 3,000 degress so taconite cars have to be built to withstand the heat. Secondly, taconite balls are about three times as heavy per cubic foot as powder iron ore so taconite cars carry more weight but have less cubic foot capacity than other ore cars. Thirdly, the method of unloading the taconite balls differers considerably from iron ore cars. That's why the rod and gate assemblies seen in the BN car look different than those of powder iron ore cars. Next time, before you say you're sure about something, look it up.
ooooops! I failed to see the word taconite in the original posting,(I'm sure about that) but I'll bet, if you really wanted to haul gravel these cars they would work just fine, eh?
tatans wrote:ooooops! I failed to see the word taconite in the original posting,(I'm sure about that) but I'll bet, if you really wanted to haul gravel these cars they would work just fine, eh?
Yes, and I'll bet that gravel could also be hauled in three bay covered hoppers too, but railroads generally use cars for what they were designed for, especially things like taconite cars, which were run in unit trains and almost never left a specific line. That's why gravel usually gets hauled in beat up old open hoppers - it's a low value commodity so it gets hauled in whatever is almost worn out for any other use.
UP2CSX wrote: Taconite cars are actually very specialized versions of ore cars. The first difference is that taconite balls are loaded hot at about 3,000 degress so taconite cars have to be built to withstand the heat. Secondly, taconite balls are about three times as heavy per cubic foot as powder iron ore so taconite cars carry more weight but have less cubic foot capacity than other ore cars. Thirdly, the method of unloading the taconite balls differers considerably from iron ore cars. That's why the rod and gate assemblies seen in the BN car look different than those of powder iron ore cars.
What about when BNSF usese its 3 bay hoppers to haul taconite. Are those specialy built?(or specialy rebuilt).
I found a video on youtube of this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7026659576436502659&q=BNSF+ore&total=38&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Also dose anybody have any info on how much taconite the can put in these cars before exceding the weight limit, is it like 1/4 full or maybe even 1/2 full of taconite?
Thanks
Joe
mj5890 wrote: UP2CSX wrote: Taconite cars are actually very specialized versions of ore cars. The first difference is that taconite balls are loaded hot at about 3,000 degress so taconite cars have to be built to withstand the heat. Secondly, taconite balls are about three times as heavy per cubic foot as powder iron ore so taconite cars carry more weight but have less cubic foot capacity than other ore cars. Thirdly, the method of unloading the taconite balls differers considerably from iron ore cars. That's why the rod and gate assemblies seen in the BN car look different than those of powder iron ore cars. What about when BNSF usese its 3 bay hoppers to haul taconite. Are those specialy built?(or specialy rebuilt).I found a video on youtube of thishttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7026659576436502659&q=BNSF+ore&total=38&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0Also dose anybody have any info on how much taconite the can put in these cars before exceding the weight limit, is it like 1/4 full or maybe even 1/2 full of taconite?Thanks Joe
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