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How do you know if your train might too long? (more added)

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Posted by loathar on Sunday, September 2, 2007 9:31 AM
When it stalls going up a grade that your laser level said was flat track.Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by twhite on Sunday, September 2, 2007 9:41 AM

When you're unloading and loading passengers at one station, but the locomotive is stopped in front of the next station up the line. 

When your rear-end helper loco looks like it's actually double-heading your lead loco.

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Posted by Berk-fan284 on Sunday, September 2, 2007 9:42 AM
If you're running an articulated and all the drivers are spinning like an early 1960's dragster running down the strip on level track your train might be just a little long.
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Posted by galaxy on Sunday, September 2, 2007 10:00 AM

If the cost of your consist exceeds the amount your wife spends on diamonds per year, your train my be to long.

 If you cant remember why a car is in the consist, even with the aid a bill card, your train may be to long.

 If you have all your cars in one consist, and you own more than fifty, your train may be to long.

If you need more than a 6 engine lashup, your train may be to long.

If the engine comes out of your 15' back tunnel before the caboose goes in, your train may be to long.

 

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, September 2, 2007 10:51 AM

Mister contrarian, front and center!

 galaxy wrote:

If the cost of your consist exceeds the amount your wife spends on diamonds per year, your train my be too long.

One car?  (an old Athearn BB, at that.)

 

If you cant remember why a car is in the consist, even with the aid a bill card, your train may be too long.

Nah.  Your memory's too short.

 If you have all your cars in one consist, and you own more than fifty, your train may be too long.

If I put all my goods wagons into one consist, it would only be about 1/4 the length of my mainline.  It would also be about eight times as long as appropriate for my prototype.  It all depends on the layout.

If you need more than a 6 engine lashup, your train may be too long.

Maybe.  More likely, your power supply may be inadequate.

If the engine comes out of your 15' back tunnel before the caboose goes in, your train may be to long.

'Taint necessarily so.  It all depends on the layout and the prototype.  Of course, if my Minamijima-bound train's lead motor appears at the Haruyama Tunnel portal before the brake van disappears into the portal of the Nichigeki Tunnel it might be too long (about three scale kilometers too long!)  That would be the least of the problems.  There's no catenary through the Haruyama Tunnel.

On the other hand----

  • If the train doesn't fit into the staging track it's supposed to occupy.
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  • If the train can't get all the way into the clear at a passing siding.
  • If clearing the arrival-departure track fills more than two empty yard tracks...

Yup, the train might have been too long (At least, too long for the Chrysanthemum Empire!)

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Posted by CPRail modeler on Sunday, September 2, 2007 11:26 AM

If you have to walk 30' to get to the other end of the train, Your train is too long.

If your cars derail on a 30" radius corner, Your train might be too long.

If your train takes up at least 3 yard tracks, Your train is too long.

If your engines burn up and catch fire on straight level track, Your train is WAY too long.

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Posted by Hoople on Sunday, September 2, 2007 1:10 PM
If you have  5 articulateds on the front and nothing is going anywhere your train is too long.
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Posted by Alex V. on Sunday, September 2, 2007 1:52 PM
If you pull the first car in the train in half while taking off, your train is too long and you've got way too much locomotive!
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Posted by UP2CSX on Sunday, September 2, 2007 4:33 PM

When you run out the slack and the caboose doesn't follow because the coupler is on the roadbed, your train may be too long.

When your Alco engines are starting to smoke like real Alcos, your train might be too long.

If the cops in two different towns are threatening to give the same engineer a ticket for blocking crossings, your train might be too long (although this has really happened on the old N&W).

When ALL your industrial spurs and your yards are empty, your train might be too long.

Funny thread, Chip. Smile [:)]

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Posted by Jake1210 on Sunday, September 2, 2007 5:03 PM

If you cant fit your loco(s) into the consist, your train may be too long.

If you can fit you loco(s) into the consist, but it takes every loco on your roster to pull it, your train may be too long.

If your train rear-ends itself, your train may be too long.

If your all metal Kadee couplers break under the weight of the cars, you train may be too long.

If your train derails on a straight section of track because the radius is too small, your train may bee too long.

If your train uses up both sides of your 2 track main line, and most of your branch line, you train may be too long.

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Posted by dinwitty on Sunday, September 2, 2007 11:53 PM

If your local neighborhood power transformer catches fire, your train is too long.

 When you wonder why you have to stop at the yard on the main because another train is leaving the same your you just left, your train is too long.

When you build a transcontinental railroad and your train gets from New York to Los Angeles in 10 seconds, your mainline is too short.

When you call your Conductor back to the caboose, he gets on the locomotive pilot for a ride back, your train might be too long, (and he may never get to the caboose either!)

 

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Posted by myred02 on Monday, September 3, 2007 12:15 AM

If ALL of the locomotives in the consist are classified as DPUs, then your train is too long.

If the brakemen in the caboose of a train can look over their shoulder and see the whites of the engineer's eyes, then your train is too long.

Man, this is a fun post! Thanks for this, I needed a good chuckle today.

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Monday, September 3, 2007 9:08 AM
Nice additions guys. Keep them coming.

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Posted by Bapou on Monday, September 3, 2007 10:12 AM

If the engineer sees the helper engines from train 1 and he is train 1!

If your commuter train is in hoboken and summit at the same time (thats at least 20 miles)

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Posted by dinwitty on Monday, September 3, 2007 10:24 AM

If you emptied your turntable tracks of locomotives and still cant get out of the yard, your train is too long.

 

If your the only train on the layout and you see 3 trains over the Tehachapi loop, your train is too long.

If you called for the real 3985 for pusher help, your train is too long.

If you saw 3 trains running and your running only one, your beer was too long.

 

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Posted by sfrailfan on Monday, September 3, 2007 10:24 AM
Very funny Spacemouse! I always push the limit at our club, 18 cars is our standard siding/staging track length but recently one of the senior members told me it would be fun for me to run more!

I like to run coal drags 30-60 cars long at times so the dispatcher will just have people wait in sidings for me to pass them! I don't do that often though, I don't think it's fair. I do have to use helpers up some of our grades though, thats always fun.
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Posted by PA&ERR on Monday, September 3, 2007 10:36 AM

If you can't uncouple from your train without coupling onto your own caboose... your train might be too long.

If you are admiring the realistic smoke coming out of your lead loco going up a 1% grade and then  realize 1) it doesn't have a smoke unit, and 2) its a diesel anyway!.... your train might be too long.

If your train can block the arrival yard of your destination and the departure yard of your point of origin at the same time... your train might be too long.

If your locomotive, mid train helpers and caboose/rear end helpers are all in different time zones... your train might be too long.

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, September 3, 2007 10:47 AM

If you can't pull your train with a string of 15 Bowser T-1 4-4-4-4s, your train might be too long.

If your train is so heavy your engines can't pull it downhill, it might be too long.

If you can see the back of the train from the engine, and you don't have any curves in your track, your train might be too long.

That's all I've got for now.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by PA&ERR on Monday, September 3, 2007 11:54 AM

If the conductor can visually check the end of train device from the cab of the lead locomotive... your train might be too long.

If a mathemetician sitting at a grade crossing looses count of the number of cars in your train as it passes by... your train might be too long.

If people waiting at a grade crossing while your train passes by, order a pizza, get it delivered and finish eating it before your train clears the grade crossing... your train might be too long.

-George

 

 

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Posted by PA&ERR on Monday, September 3, 2007 1:58 PM

If you have time to read all of this weekend's troll related posts before the last car of your train clears the yard... your train might be too long!

Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by jesrr on Monday, September 3, 2007 2:07 PM
  When the train is in a curve and the engineer can touch the EOT marker...maybe your train is too long
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Posted by SpaceMouse on Monday, September 3, 2007 2:07 PM
 PAERR wrote:

If you have time to read all of this weekend's troll related posts before the last car of your train clears the yard... your train might be too long!

Laugh [(-D]

-George

No one has that much time.

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Posted by jeffers_mz on Monday, September 3, 2007 2:30 PM

When all 20 drivers have ground clean through the nickle steel rail, and start in on the plastic ties, your train might be too long.

When attempts to pull the train yield loud popping noises, only half the train moves, and you find Kadee #5s embedded in the wall more than twenty feet away, your train might be too long.

When the power company calls to tell you they expect you to pay for the melted windings on their 650 megawatt turbines, your train probably is too long.

When you look through the rectangular hole with brown smoking edges in your benchwork, right where your head end consist used to be, and see an identical hole through the subfloor into the crawlspace, your train used to be too long.

When the little door on your P2K GP9 slams open and your plastic engineer is sprinting away at top speed, yelling "She's gonna BLOW!", your train won't be too long for much longer.

When the space time continuum around your layout folds in on itself, past the Schwartzchild radius, and your train and layout disappear beyond the event horizon, your train may well be too long in the X'Y'Z' reference frame, but we have no way of telling that because the Lorentz Transforms break down in proximity to naked singularities.

At this point, we can invoke Hawking's virtual particle annihilation equations using the measured gamma radiation data and equivocably state that your train is probably too long.

 

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Posted by exPalaceDog on Monday, September 3, 2007 3:30 PM

One, any train is Too long when you try to back it up!

Two, any train is too long when it starts taking short cuts through the inside of the curves!

Three, any train is too if the shippers are complaining becuase the yardmaster holds cars in the yard until he has a "full" train's worth of tonnage.

Have fun

 

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Monday, September 3, 2007 6:39 PM
Your Train just may be too long when your little plastic engineer calls you Long distance from LA and the train is still in Chicago.

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Posted by steemtrayn on Monday, September 3, 2007 9:34 PM
 jeffers_mz wrote:

When all 20 drivers have ground clean through the nickle steel rail, and start in on the plastic ties, your train might be too long.

You mean like this?

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Posted by myred02 on Monday, September 3, 2007 9:40 PM
 steemtrayn wrote:
 jeffers_mz wrote:

When all 20 drivers have ground clean through the nickle steel rail, and start in on the plastic ties, your train might be too long.

You mean like this?

Or this?

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Posted by SOU Fan on Monday, September 3, 2007 10:10 PM
 jeffers_mz wrote:

When the little door on your P2K GP9 slams open and your plastic engineer is sprinting away at top speed, yelling "She's gonna BLOW!", your train won't be too long for much longer.

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Posted by Alex V. on Monday, September 3, 2007 11:23 PM
Is that real????!!!  Tongue [:P] If it is, what the heck happenned?
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Posted by Guilford Guy on Monday, September 3, 2007 11:25 PM
Remote control units has a tendency to do that...

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Posted by Alex V. on Monday, September 3, 2007 11:30 PM
What, exactly, happened?
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Posted by cudaken on Monday, September 3, 2007 11:51 PM

Your train is to long if you can read all the postings on this thread and have yet to see the caboose! 

 Your train is to long if you have to use a passing line for the engine so the caboose does not get hit by the engine.

 Your train is to long if all the engines you want are made and delivred before you see your caboose!

 Your train is to long if you think about running the short line around your yard?

 Your train is to long if you are thinking about using the 70 amp battery car charger as a booster!

 Your train is to long if your wife gives up on trying to count the number of rolling stock you have on the bench.

 You have to many Rolling Stock and Engines when you have to pull half of them so you can run a train!

 I guess I don't read 1/2 off the postings, I have missed the trolls postings and that is fine with me.

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Posted by METRO on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 12:13 AM

If your fresh switch crew ends their shift before
they get to the end of the first cut, your train is too long (and your yard might be too)

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 12:27 AM

Your train is too long when Walthers has to go out of business because you bought them all.

 

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Posted by jeffers_mz on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 2:48 AM
 steemtrayn wrote:
 jeffers_mz wrote:

When all 20 drivers have ground clean through the nickle steel rail, and start in on the plastic ties, your train might be too long.

You mean like this?

 

Yes, only deeper.

That picture or one very much like that gave me the idea.

In the case of the pic I saw, teenage vandals broke into the train at night, fired the diesel, locked the brakes and it just sat there spinning the wheels till someone noticed it the next day.

Pretty crappy thing to do if you ask me, and since I saw the pic, wheelspin on the 5% grade here bothers me a lot more than it used to.

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Posted by jeffers_mz on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 2:50 AM
 cudaken wrote:

 Your train is to long if you are thinking about using the 70 amp battery car charger as a booster!

              

 

Hmmmm...this sounds suspiciously specific...

 

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 11:56 PM

 Hum, would it work?Big Smile [:D] I have 3 of them.

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Posted by twcenterprises on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 3:20 AM
 jeffers_mz wrote:
 steemtrayn wrote:
 jeffers_mz wrote:

You mean like this?

Yes, only deeper.

That picture or one very much like that gave me the idea.

In the case of the pic I saw, teenage vandals broke into the train at night, fired the diesel, locked the brakes and it just sat there spinning the wheels till someone noticed it the next day.

Pretty crappy thing to do if you ask me, and since I saw the pic, wheelspin on the 5% grade here bothers me a lot more than it used to.

Ah, so that explains why only 3 axles were spinning on (presumably) a 4 axle engine.  The handbrake was (I'm assuming) still "tied down".  As I'm told, the handbrake only "ties down" one axle.

Don't RR's lock up the loco's at night?  Or at least lock the controls somehow?  (Oh, wait, you said they "broke in".  Never mind.)

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Posted by MAbruce on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:20 AM

When the lights in the neighborhood dim as you increase the throttle (and you model in N-scale), then perhaps the train is too long.

When you're running on the huge Springfield N-Trak layout, and you see your loco consist appear soon after the caboose passes by - why then you have room for a few more cars on the train!  Hey, what can I say, the rules change on N-Trak layouts...  Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:31 AM

If your locomotive is a steamer, but by the time you get to the end of the train the caboose has been replaced by a Fred, your train might be too long.

If you invite Werner Heisenberg over to an operating session, your train might be too long, but nobody can be certain.

If you need a Fred on a bridal gown, her train might be too long.

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:43 AM

Good thread Chip.  There are some real funny ones in here.   

As someone from my local club said, "Any thing less than 150 cars is a local."  Laugh [(-D]

If you grew a beard by the time you connected your last rolling stock, your train might be too long.

If your accelerated clock needs to run slower than real time to disconnect all your cars, your train might be too long. 

If you have to call an electrician to install new amp service in the breaker box for boosters, your train might be too long.  (Sadly I'm close to doing this.)

If your train takes 1 minutes to accelerate and decelerate in DCC and accel vars 2 and 3 are 0, your train might be too long.

If Kadee creates a new titanium coupler just for you, your train might be too long.

If you write the manufacturer to tell them to ramp up production of a particular car so you can add more, your train might be too long.  (I'm looking at your branchline blueprint series)

BTW: My C&O George Washington is up to 15 cars, each about a foot long.  For a passenger train, that's huge!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 11:44 AM

Qoute 

 

If your passengers can board a train walk to the dining car and have lunch in the next station then walk to the front car and exit at their destination station and the train hasn't moved, your train might be too long.

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Posted by hiawatha101 on Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:29 PM
If there's a new 1949 Mercury at the station your train left from and a new 1961 Impala at the station it just arrived at, your train might be too long.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 6, 2007 10:01 PM

 

  I don't remember if I heard it on the radio or my Mother singing it. It wasin the late 40s.

 

  " The longest train I ever saw, was comeing from Joe Johnson's coal mine. The engine passed at half past two, the caboose came by at nine"

 

  Perhaps I've dated myself.

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Posted by steemtrayn on Thursday, September 6, 2007 10:16 PM

If you spit out the cab window while going over a trestle, and, on the return trip you can still see your spit going down, then the trestle is too high.

 

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Posted by trainnut57 on Friday, September 7, 2007 11:18 AM

SoapBox [soapbox]

If your first car unhooks from the locomotive during startup, your train mught be a tad to long.Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Friday, September 7, 2007 11:28 AM
If you can read an entire 'weekend photo fights' before your train passes by, you just wasted an hour of your life. Oh, I mean your train may be too long!Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by Guilford Guy on Friday, September 7, 2007 2:42 PM
 steemtrayn wrote:

If you spit out the cab window while going over a trestle, and, on the return trip you can still see your spit going down, then the trestle is too high.

 

Oh, wait...wrong thread.Sign - Oops [#oops]

Hmm, means you have awfully good vision. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 7, 2007 2:44 PM
Yeah!Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by nscaler711 on Friday, September 7, 2007 4:52 PM
your train may be too long if you notice your caboose is missing off the end of your train and your engines are where the caboose used to be!

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Posted by ENGINEER BOBBY D on Friday, September 7, 2007 5:10 PM
A GOOD TRAIN CAN NEVER BE TOO LONG!  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Friday, September 7, 2007 5:28 PM
Your train might be too long if the slack is longer than your longest siding...

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Posted by NeO6874 on Friday, September 7, 2007 7:21 PM

if the train is led by a 4-4-0 and 40' cars, and end up with 85' autoracks and a FRED... it might be a bit long..

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Posted by mikesmowers on Friday, September 7, 2007 7:25 PM
   Lots of humerous answers, That's good.   Was wondering. What's a FRED? Seen it several times here on the forums but still I am it the dark.     Mike
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Posted by arkansasrailfan on Friday, September 7, 2007 8:08 PM
Flashing Rear End Device.


You know your train is too long when it takes 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 years for the slack to run out. ( that's the number "google", and yes, it is real.)( missed some zeros)

you know your train is too long when the local power substaion MELTS.

you know your train is too long when one of your tank cars rip in to pieces from too much stress
(it really happened on the real thing, just look in last months TRAINS)

you know your train is too long when your power grinds it's way all through the benchwork.

you know your train is too long when the slack runs in and you have a 100000000000000000000000000000000000 googleplex car pile up

this thread is the most hilarous (ive laughed so much!!) hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahaha!!!!
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Posted by nscaler711 on Friday, September 7, 2007 8:18 PM

 mikesmowers wrote:
   Lots of humerous answers, That's good.   Was wondering. What's a FRED? Seen it several times here on the forums but still I am it the dark.     Mike

A FRED is an EoT device (End Of Train) it detects air pressure lenght and tonnage of the train and it replaced the caboose all you do is attach it to the coupler and hook up the train air line to it.

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Posted by mj5890 on Friday, September 7, 2007 9:40 PM

If you train is pulled by all of UP's big boys then your train is too long

If you have 40' wooden reefers on one the front of your train and at the end of the train the switch crew (in a difrent state) is putting the last cut of BNSF grain cars on the end and attaching the EOT,  then your trian is too long and you probably have alot of costomers waiting for some of the cargo that's in the front of the trainWink [;)]

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Posted by twcenterprises on Saturday, September 8, 2007 2:25 AM

Expectant Lady (about 9 months along, due any day now) to Conductor:  "How much longer until we get to our destination?"

Conductor:  "Unknown, we'll get there eventually."

Lady:  "What happens if I go into labor?"

Conductor:  You're familiar with the reputation of this train, I take it?"

Lady:  "Yes."

Conductor:  "Then you should have known not to board this train in your present condition." 

Lady:  "When I got on this train, I *wasn't* in this condition!"

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Posted by John Busby on Saturday, September 8, 2007 3:10 AM

Hi

guys

I though it was when the loco leaves the depot and the caboose is at the next depot down the line

Old MR rule of thumb have three times Max train length between depots.

I think the person referring to the expecting lady is talking about the old Ghan train to Alice SpringsSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Saturday, September 8, 2007 7:53 AM

If you have your momentum turned off and it still takes more than one lap to stop, your train might be too long.

If you have to get permission from more than two yardmasters to make a runaround move, your train might be too long.

If you need more than two throttles to program all the locos in your consist and it still takes a shove from the yard switcher to get moving, your train might be too long.   

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 8, 2007 10:34 AM

If the yard consumed all availible man power, the entire work day and refueled the switchers a number of times; the train may be too long.

Best to build these long trains during holiday periods when all of Dispatch and Higher are on vacation somewhere sunny so they dont stress too much.

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Posted by Dallas Model Works on Saturday, September 8, 2007 12:58 PM

If your locos are in your basment and your caboose is still back at the hobby store, your train might be too long.

 

 

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Posted by Beyer-Garratt 6040 on Sunday, September 9, 2007 1:37 AM

When you are heading down a grade with full reverse and gaining speed then your train might be too long.

When you stall going up a grade and the weight of your train drags you back to the start of the grade, then your train might be too long.

When double-headed Garratts cannot move the train on level track, then your train might be too long.

When your seven loco diesel lash up with over 27000Hp cannot shift the consist, then your train might be too long.

When the automatic signalling goes from red to amber and then to green and the brake van is still in the green section, then your train is too long.

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Posted by nscaler711 on Sunday, September 9, 2007 1:39 AM
If all the DD40's cannot pull the train on a down hill slope!

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Posted by PASMITH on Sunday, September 9, 2007 8:41 AM
If you can read this entire forum thread before your caboose passes, your train is too long.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 9, 2007 12:32 PM

You know your train is to long when:

-The tail end starts to move several minutes after the head end (coupler slack)

-When all other club members have to operate helpers

-You have to momentarily apply full throttle when starting, so you can determine by sound if the locomotives have stalled on dirty track

-Someone else warns you that your train has derailed about 37 cars back from the mid-helper

-You string line your consist - on a grade, not a curve

-The rule book states backing the train is not permitted - period

-The brakeman takes one look at the consist, and goes home

-The driver traction tires peel off on starting

-If the room lights fade when you apply throttle

-You can feel the weight of the train through the vibration in the floor

-The 36 hours you spent on working automatic crossing gates, lights, detectors, etc... was a pure waste of time - they just stay down anyway

-The talking hot box detector curses at you

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Posted by mikesmowers on Sunday, September 9, 2007 12:53 PM
   So funny,  I thought of this one.... When you start the train to moving and before it gets all the slack out, all the  locos EXPOLDE in a ball of fire and black smoke fills the train room...Your train might be to long     Mike
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 9, 2007 1:31 PM

As you advance the throttle on the struggling locomotives, your phone rings to inform you that your power usage is gaining on the Utility's ability to supply it.

Another would be the use of 6x6 or 8x8 Oak benchwork under your track.

You stop some feet away from the signal so that the run-in of the slack does not push you past the Absolute stop signal.

Visitors fall asleep counting cars as they pass.

Your Rolling Stock money value far exceeds any possible revenue for the entire train.

You install Cog Gearing in the middle of the track and equipt your locos with very large motors to drive the gear.

Finally, you arrive in the outermost town on the railroad while the dispatcher waits paitently for the Yard Tower to call in your departure.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 9, 2007 2:11 PM

I'm having too much fun with this -

You know your train is too long when:

-Your yard goats are Big Boys, Cab-Forwards, C-8's, Y6b's, R-2's, and Z-5's, in pairs!

-Microsoft Train Simulator won't run your train without freezing, even on "Deep Blue", the super computer

-Union Pacific put in an order for freight locomotives like the ones they saw at your layout open house

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, September 9, 2007 2:37 PM
Your trains to long, when the brakeman's hours are up before he's finished walking the train.
Your train is 1 million cars long...
Your train is too long when the combined roster of UP's, NS', CSX's, CN's, and CP's car fleets leaves no cars on any other train in any other yard and takes UP's entire loco roster, including 3695 and 844 to move the train at 5 miles per hour.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 9, 2007 3:16 PM
Your train might be too long if the zebra stripes on the ends of your diesel hood units go from"V's" to "^'s" when they are coupled to the train...
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Posted by ArtOfRuin on Sunday, September 9, 2007 4:35 PM

-If one of your layout's admirers hands you a business card from the Guiness Book of World Records, your train might be too long.

-If the lead locomotive is the one Richard Trevithick built in 1804 and the current mid-helper is a GE ES44AC, then your train might be too long.

-If you're sending out helper calls to local subway systems, commuter rails, train museums, tourist railroads, and railroad scrapyards, your train may be too long.

-If old locomotives are being restored just to help your train, your train may be too long. 

-If the tension in the couplers is so great that when one breaks the lead locomotives catapult forward like a fighter jet launching from an aircraft carrier, your train may be too long.

-If the US Air Force starts adding HiRailer wheels to their C-5 Galaxy fleet, your train might be too long.
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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Sunday, September 9, 2007 5:25 PM

If you have to dual gauge your z-scale model train layout with real standard gauge so the real UP 3985 can pull your train, then your train might be just about long enough.

 

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Posted by steemtrayn on Sunday, September 9, 2007 6:34 PM
If an emergency brake application causes the Earth's axis to shift, then your train just might be a leeeetle to long.
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Posted by dinwitty on Sunday, September 9, 2007 8:34 PM

If your running your train in the basement but the layout is on the 2nd floor, your train is too long.

 

Your train is too long when you have to rethink your railroad name Mississippi Short Line.

 Your train may be too long when the dispatcher clears the main from Chicago to New York.

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Posted by nscaler711 on Sunday, September 9, 2007 9:13 PM
Your train might be to long if your model SD50 catches fire.

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, September 9, 2007 9:17 PM

If doubleheaded M-4 2-8-8-4 Yellowstones and a mid-train helper of a Rio Grande L-131 2-8-8-2 just whine and spin their drivers, then your train is not only TOO long, but your layout just collapsed!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 10, 2007 9:34 AM

It might be time for Digitrax to market 100 foot wind turbines and call it "Uberfan Model Power Supply" or solar panels for your roof.

After repeated problems with power; running these long trains.

Another hint that your train is too long is when you contort and bend at wild angles to get inside your helix and start pulling every peice of it out to find the locomotive.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, September 10, 2007 9:50 AM

If a Kadee #5 snaps, your train might be too long.

If your consist requires more engines than your DCC system can support, your train might be too long.

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:56 PM
 Beyer-Garratt 6040 wrote:

When you stall going up a grade and the weight of your train drags you back to the start of the grade, then your train might be too long.

Nope.  BTDT.  You have a piece of ballast stuck in the running gear of your 2-6-2 Prairie on a 2.5% grade.

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Posted by nscaler711 on Saturday, September 15, 2007 2:53 PM
it might be too long if you cant tell the back from the front or the front from the back

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Posted by IRONHORSE77 on Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:26 PM

If your lead engine is 4 time zones ahead of the mid train helpers.

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Posted by PA&ERR on Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:40 PM

If it is as long as the Elliots' Trackside Diner thread... your train might be too long!

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:20 PM

 nscaler711 wrote:
it might be too long if you cant tell the back from the front or the front from the back

I have several trains that meet that specification - DMU and EMU sets.  The longest runs with five (or six when I add the diner) cars...Whistling [:-^]

And none of them are too long for the high platforms at Tomikawa...Approve [^]

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Posted by arkansasrailfan on Friday, September 21, 2007 8:18 PM
Your train must be very long, because the neighbors called the police, and reported a gunshot, and find you shot in the leg, and they ask, "who did it?" you point and say, That's who did it, my 80-ft SSW hi cube boxcar, and then they realize you got shot with a kadee no.5.

Your train is too long when you find cars from other countries on the tail, then you realize why all these Customs and media called.

Your train is too long when you realize that the new helix you added is your train running on top of itself.

your train is too long when the lead power is from the earliest known railroads to when the rear power is from the 30th century
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Posted by Walter Clot on Friday, September 21, 2007 9:53 PM
If the kid on a bicycle waiting for the train to pass is drawing Social Security before the caboose passes, your train is really really too looooooooooong!Dead [xx(]
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Posted by wm3798 on Friday, September 21, 2007 9:56 PM

If you model in Hugely Oversize scale, you're train is too long no matter what, your industrial buildings too small, and your mountains are but mole hills!!

If you're running Nice scale Life Like FA's in a trio, your train CANT be too long! 

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Posted by BRJN on Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:04 AM

If your main line is completely occupied, you have a continuous chain of cars from the train table to the carpet, and the locomotive is moving through the aisle, you train may be too long.

If the little plastic guys waiting at the crossing get hungry, order pizza, it is delivered, and the delivery guy eats it himself because it was getting cold while he figures out how to get to the customers on the other side of the tracks, your train is too long.

If somebody waiting at the crossing gets out of his car, crosses over the pedestrian bridge, and walks to work, your train is too long.

If all your customers are complaining that they have no more cars on-site and nobody can promise them new ones anytime soon, your train is too long.

If you are gaining seniority faster than the train is moving away from the depot, your train is too long.

If the fishermen by the pond have enough time to catch a fish, cook it, and tell their friends about the one that got away, and the train is STILL going by, your train may be too long.

If the engineer saw the coin toss for a football game, and the conductor was too late for the last whistle being blown, your train may be too long.

If EVERY other railroad is calling your management to complain about the blocked grade crossings, your train may be too long.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:26 AM

If, operating on the staff-and-ticket system, the ticket has been delivered to the agent at the destination station and your brake van still hasn't passed the start signal at your station of origin, either your train is too long or the distance between stations is too short.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:08 AM
If those Red Sox win another World Series before the train passes, your train might be too long!

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Posted by GraniteRailroader on Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:22 AM

Amen!

 

 

 

 

 

 

go yankees

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Posted by nscaler711 on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:43 AM

 

 HAHAHHA aint that the truth !!!

 wm3798 wrote:

If you model in Hugely Oversize scale, you're train is too long no matter what, your industrial buildings too small, and your mountains are but mole hills!!

If you're running Nice scale Life Like FA's in a trio, your train CANT be too long! 

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Posted by steemtrayn on Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:55 PM

If Magnus doesn't have enough BigBoys to pull it, your train might be too long.

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Posted by NeO6874 on Thursday, October 4, 2007 10:29 PM
 GraniteRailroader wrote:

go yankees

 

Evil [}:)]

After their lackluster performance tonight...

 

Anyway, if you finish the benchwork on your FIFTH layout, and you still haven't seen the caboose (or the FRED for you modern guys) from that first layout you built back in 'xx the train might be too long. 

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, October 4, 2007 10:50 PM

If your CN train is in Montreal, Chicago, St. Louis, and New Orleans at the same time...your train may be too long.

If your Athearn BB engine sounds like it's in run 8 and not moving...your train may be too long.

If you filled a train with victims of Chuck Norris it'd be forever long!

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Posted by loathar on Friday, October 5, 2007 1:15 AM

If your MUing 25 Big Boys together.Whistling [:-^]

 

 

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Friday, October 5, 2007 2:08 AM

This topic has been floating around for more than a month now!

Your train might be too long if . . . . .

. . . . . your caboose crew goes to beans on the front platform of the leading SD40-2! . . . . .

 . . . . . your locomotive has already spotted itself under the water plug at the next division point before the caboose has cleared yard limits at the last one! . . . . .

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Posted by arkansasrailfan on Friday, October 5, 2007 4:13 PM

Your train is too long when it start to haul itself.Whistling [:-^]

your train is too long when it takes all the ships in Starfleet(Star Trek) to pull your train, and they still can't pull it.

When the slack ran out and they measured it, it was the circumference of the sunAlien [alien]Shock [:O]

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Posted by Don Gibson on Friday, October 5, 2007 7:13 PM

 Chip Mouse:

Marvelous!. This thread may have set a record.

(My favorite) - "If the engineer can mistake his own FRED for a stop signal, your train might be too long". - C.E.

(Most discombobulated) - " At this point, we can invoke Hawking's virtual particle annihilation equations using the measured gamma radiation data and equivocably state that your train is probably too long. - M.Z.J.

Say Wha?

MY observation (non humorous): Trains are not too long, it's most LAYOUTS that are too small.

Chip - I think this topic deserves forwarding to MODEL RAILROADER for publication. Much of which dererves reprinting and seeing the light of day.

CHEERS,

 

 

 

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Friday, October 5, 2007 7:29 PM
Your train is too long if there's a five-second time delay between when the rear-end brakeman swings his lantern and the engineer sees the light from it.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Saturday, October 6, 2007 10:10 AM
If you think your train is too long your layout is too small!

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Posted by Dallas Model Works on Saturday, October 6, 2007 11:04 AM

If your train is longer than this thread, your train might be too long.

 

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Posted by dinwitty on Sunday, October 7, 2007 7:32 AM

if Guiness refuses to put your train in the record book, your train is too long.

 

If you emptied Fort Knox buying cars for your train, its too long.

 

if you ran out of number digitis on the decal sheet to number your consist, your train is too long.

 

 If you have to put a weight capacity limit on your steel re-inforced benchwork, your train is too long.

If you get complaints from other hobbyists that their car orders from walthers are in constant backorder, your train is too long.

If you have to replace your couplers with ones made from zircanium, your train is too long.

 If the lead car is all rusty and the yard crew is putting freshly painted cars on, your train is too long.

If your engine ran from one end of the layout to the other and you still havent pulled the slack out of the couplers, your train is too long.

If you hand the switch list to the train crew on a forklift, your train is too long.

If your peddle freight crew went thru 15000 crew changes and still growing, your train is too long.

 If you hire a marathon sprint runner to be a brakeman, your train is too long.

If your triplex ran out of steam just pulling the slack out, your train is too long.

If you ran out of DCC addresses for your train, your train may be too long.

 

 

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Posted by ferky on Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:34 AM
If you salvage an aircraft carrier catapult and steam system just to get your train to start to move.
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Posted by SteamFreak on Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:18 AM

When turning up the throttle dims the house lights.

When it's on four adjacent tracks at once.

When startup makes the rails pile up behind the head-end power like a broken conveyor belt.

When screws pull out of the benchwork during an emergency stop.

 

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Posted by jbinkley60 on Saturday, October 27, 2007 5:11 AM

 

When the rails start moving instead of the locomotives, your train is too long.

 

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Saturday, October 27, 2007 6:21 AM

When the train going by on the other mainline is your train.

Enjoy

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, October 29, 2007 6:56 AM

 MisterBeasley wrote:
If those Red Sox win another World Series before the train passes, your train might be too long!

Well, maybe I was wrong.  I think you need to add a couple of tankers full of Dirty Water to that train...

Go Sox - see you next year!

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Posted by Derrick Moore on Monday, October 29, 2007 8:53 AM
 SpaceMouse wrote:
 PAERR wrote:

If you have time to read all of this weekend's troll related posts before the last car of your train clears the yard... your train might be too long!

Laugh [(-D]

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No one has that much time.

I'm only in high school,so..........

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Posted by Derrick Moore on Monday, October 29, 2007 8:55 AM
 Dallas Model Works wrote:

If your train is longer than this thread, your train might be too long.

 

Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Monday, October 29, 2007 9:35 AM

 

Your train is too long if the front coupler of your locomotive is coupled to the rear of your own train on the giant loop!!

 

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Posted by dinwitty on Monday, October 29, 2007 6:49 PM

 ferky wrote:
If you salvage an aircraft carrier catapult and steam system just to get your train to start to move.

 

Thats just to fill the boilers for all them Big Boys  :rimshot: 

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Posted by danmerkel on Saturday, November 3, 2007 10:03 PM
When you stall... going downhill, your train might be too long.
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Posted by nscaler711 on Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:56 PM
it might be too long if the wheelslip indicactor light blows and you welded your locomotives wheels to the track!

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Posted by reklein on Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:00 PM
Your train is too long if Bruntons helix is filled up.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by da_kraut on Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:11 PM

Hello everybody,

I know this is an old post, but now I can finally add my thoughts.  On my layout I know that the train is too long when the helper is still going up on the helix while the lead locmotives are heading down the helix.Tongue

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Posted by tbdanny on Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:16 PM

Frank,

Thanks for bringing it back up - this is probably the funniest thread I've read on this forum.  Favourites:

"When the talking hotbox detector curses at you."

"If you're getting married and see a FRED on her dress, then her train is too long."

And here's one of my own:

When the caboose of the train in front of you adjusts its' speed and direction the same time as your loco, your train is too long.

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Posted by nik .n on Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:53 PM

 

CAZEPHYR

 

Your train is too long if the front coupler of your locomotive is coupled to the rear of your own train on the giant loop!!

 

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Posted by don246 on Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:06 PM

When you're sitting in your car waiting for it to pass.

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, April 16, 2010 7:50 AM

  If the helper engine is MU to the lead engine, your train is to long.

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Posted by el-capitan on Friday, April 16, 2010 12:35 PM

If a representative from guiness book of world records is on hand for an ops session......

A friend of mine that  owns a 10,000 sq ft o scale layout in the detroit area routinely runs 300 car coal trains. Recently (about a month ago) he broke the guiness record with a 1205 car train. It didn't make it very far, maybe 50 ft, but it was enough to break the record.

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Posted by ns3010 on Friday, April 16, 2010 7:59 PM

When your passengers board the train, and have to get off before they walk far enough to find the bathroom.

When you get the train moving in the morning, go to school and lacrosse practice, get home, and it's still on the first lap.

When you fall asleep waiting for it to pass.

When your taking a video of it, and run out of memory before half of the train reaches you.

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Posted by jwhitten on Friday, April 16, 2010 10:03 PM

If the bridesmaids are all tripping down the aisle, your train might be too long... Whistling

If you leave Washington D.C at 1:00 pm and get a ticket for blocking traffic in Richmond VA at 1:01 pm, then your train might be too long...

If you have to resort to a satellite phone to talk to the caboose, then your train might be too long...

If Jeff Foxworthy can complete his whole act while walking alongside the consist, then your train might be too long....

If the birds flying north past the caboose turn around to go south before they reach the cab, your train might be too long...

If it takes more than a couple of hours to stretch the slack out of the couplers, then your train might be too long...

If your railroad enters into and completes a merger with another railroad before you pull into the station, then your train might be too long...

If the engineer's getting a tan while the conductor's getting frostbite, then your train might be too long...

If it takes the conductor more than an hour to walk the train hollering "All Aboard!", then your train might be too long...

If your train can leave Las Angeles and arrive in New York City at the same time, then your train might be too long...

If you can measure your train length in parsecs, then your train might be too long...

 

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Posted by Medina1128 on Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:21 AM

If your layout has a peninsula, and the engineer is waving to the passengers, while going in opposite directions past each other, your train might be too long.

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Posted by gondola1988 on Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:47 AM

You fellas know your never supposed to let your wife's ever to see your engines anywhere near the caboose because that means you spent more money. A fellow once collected trains near here and his wife hated his hobby so when he bought a new car or loco and she asked how much he spent on it his reply was always a few dollars, sadly he passed and she sold his collection of brass and other expensive cars and what not for a few dollars apiece not knowing the value of her husbands prized "toys" . Good thing I dont have that problem ,I collect trains and she collects dolls and beanie babies.Have fun guys and try not to smoke the wiring Jim. 

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:22 AM

  Jim, when I got started I collected nothing but Santa Fe Warbonnets for that very reason. They all looked the same to her, it took awhile before she realized how many I got up to.

  I all so keep a list so if or when she sells them she won't sell a $700.00 engine for $20.00.

 

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Posted by the North East Rail Modeler on Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:17 PM

If you have 100,000 models of the UP 4-8-8-4 Big Boy, as well as 10,000 Centenial DD-40X's, plus roughly enough locomotives to where your roster is on a roughly 1scale loco:1 real loco ratio, and all are at 100% throttle, with locomotives accually on fire, and you cause all of North America to black out, with the train not moving, then you have a long train (as well as a completely impossible and unprototypical Big Boy roster and what could be the world's largest electric bill.)

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, April 19, 2010 5:51 AM

When you have to ask the question, "Is this train too long?".

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, May 9, 2010 11:05 AM

nscaler711
it might be too long if the wheelslip indicactor light blows and you welded your locomotives wheels to the track!

I had something like that happen once!! Don't think I'll try that one again either!!Whistling

When you blow decoders like they were popcorn----on all locomotives.

When the roster is all out there on one train---all 110 of 'em

You just discovered that your continuous circuit is helixed to another circuit---

Your electricity bill is such that the local constabulary come to see if you have a grow op------

 

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