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TGV Acela
Posted by alloboard on Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:42 PM
Where can I find metal axle side frames for an SNCF TGV? I want to replace the rubber ones.
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Posted by modelmaker51 on Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:49 PM

Firstly, I don't think I've ever heard of rubber sideframes, do you mean plastic? Secondly, why would you want switch to metal? And thirdly, I don't think any such animal exits unless TGV sets have been produced in brass which I don't believe they have.

As far as I know Bachman and Joueff have been the only producers of TGV trains and their's are all plastic.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 26, 2007 1:25 AM

TGV is a entirely different animal than the slower Acela.

I would think it is a insult to the French to be lumped with the slower Yankees running in a single rusted corridor trying to be fast with the Acelas. I mean come on, the USA Set cannot hardly get 150 mph while the TGV likes it above 250 mph.

So which are are talking about.. the French engine or the United States engine?

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Posted by Dave-the-Train on Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:37 AM
 Safety Valve wrote:

TGV is a entirely different animal than the slower Acela.

I would think it is a insult to the French to be lumped with the slower Yankees running in a single rusted corridor trying to be fast with the Acelas. I mean come on, the USA Set cannot hardly get 150 mph while the TGV likes it above 250 mph.

So which are are talking about.. the French engine or the United States engine?

You've got to recall... the French cheated and built a whole new railway (chemin de fer) flat and straight to get those speeds.  The NE corridor works in the real world.

Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:21 AM
 Dave-the-Train wrote:
 Safety Valve wrote:

TGV is a entirely different animal than the slower Acela.

I would think it is a insult to the French to be lumped with the slower Yankees running in a single rusted corridor trying to be fast with the Acelas. I mean come on, the USA Set cannot hardly get 150 mph while the TGV likes it above 250 mph.

So which are are talking about.. the French engine or the United States engine?

You've got to recall... the French cheated and built a whole new railway (chemin de fer) flat and straight to get those speeds.  The NE corridor works in the real world.

Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by simon1966 on Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:33 AM

and a darned impressive cheat it is as well.  The ride is so incredibly smooth, you just seem to be flying at ground level.

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Posted by lvanhen on Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:37 AM
All that speed while waving a white flag!?Shock [:O]
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:59 AM

 lvanhen wrote:
All that speed while waving a white flag!?Shock [:O]

Only if the train is an extra, right?

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by lvanhen on Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:18 PM
Mr B - no, just because it's what the French do best!Shock [:O]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:08 PM
The Acela has been tested to 165 MPH; and goes 150 every day in SE MA. The TGV easily beats the Acela though....Cool [8D]
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Posted by BigRusty on Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:36 PM

Having ridden the Chunnel Train from London to Paris, it was the rail riding thrill of a lfetime. True it was on straighter track than in the New England Corridor, but we have to work with what is there. We could build some good rail race tracks, i.e. Tucson-Phoenix, but the money just isn't there.

Believe me, there will come a day when we will sorely regret the demise of the passenger carrying railroads whn the airways become suiper saturated with Jumbo Jets.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 26, 2007 7:19 PM
Yup! Then we railfans can say: "Told you so!"Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:48 PM
 BigRusty wrote:

Having ridden the Chunnel Train from London to Paris, it was the rail riding thrill of a lfetime. True it was on straighter track than in the New England Corridor, but we have to work with what is there. We could build some good rail race tracks, i.e. Tucson-Phoenix, but the money just isn't there.

Believe me, there will come a day when we will sorely regret the demise of the passenger carrying railroads whn the airways become suiper saturated with Jumbo Jets.

No not jumbos... Jumbos have thier place and should have bedrooms for the very long hauls instead of jamming people in 48" of space like cattle.

Moller Skycars. Look them up.. they are expecting flight certification by Dec '08. There are some already being designed for around 80,000 dollars and capable of road/air use. The FAA is designing a license class specifically for this type of transport which will be somewhere between ultralight and Private Pilot General Aviation.

Theoratically you can put regular gas into one and zip to little rock in the rush hour bypassing the choked and gridlocked freeway below. Instead of 1 hour fighting that, you are at work in 10 minutes or so, excepting issues with the Memphis Center and Little Rock's Approach.

Heck I dont use the freeway anymore. I use three seperate twolane roads and one stop light to get to little rock and only now people are beginning to crowd the road having discovered it.

No. Amtrack on the Corridor is the last to stop hauling people in bad winter storms that already shut down the major airfields around the major cities. When the track switches freeze up and becomes too bad to run then you know it's pretty rough.

Tuscon is really poor land and rather rough. Phoenix to Las Vegas would be a much better.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 27, 2007 10:04 AM

 alloboard wrote:
Where can I find metal axle side frames for an SNCF TGV? I want to replace the rubber ones.

Sorry, but I think you are out of luck on the metal side frames.

I have the 1980's Lima version of the TGV. I will admit that the sideframes look really smooth and glossy and even bend easier than plastic sideframes, but they are plastic.

For years, I have looked for odds and ends for the TGV and I have never heard nor seen of metal sideframes for it. 

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Posted by prr_t1 on Monday, August 27, 2007 10:55 AM

I think Alloboard is looking for wheelsets, to remove the ones equipped with traction tires...

Alas with no precision on the builder/model, it could be difficult : Lima old/new generation? Jouef? Mehano?

And regarding the "flat speedways" allowing french TGVs to run that fast, in fact the first high speed line is more like a roller coaster... Take a look :

A nice website : TGV Web

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 27, 2007 11:20 AM

Alloboard,

Are you meaning wheelsets?

My Lima came with and still has metal with traction tires on the two right rear trucks. 

I have thought about changing them, but for now they are fine. You might find them on NWSL (North West Short Lines) web page.

The pages are a bit dounty to look through, I usually have to send them an email. 

A seperate question from me is, are you trying to improve the stall performance when running from one block to another?

After many attempts, I have finally figured out the answer. it works flawlessly. 

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