Mailman wrote: He who dies with the most toys, wins !
Corey's right. He who dies with the most toys...still dies!
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Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
tstage wrote: Mailman wrote: He who dies with the most toys, wins !He who dies with the most toys...still dies!
He who dies with the most toys...still dies!
"Also, I stated there were about 25 transformers, I was waaayyyy off. There are "72" of them. Plus, a box of extra parts to make more.. There are 33 tycos, 6 bachmann, 1 model power, 5 life-like, 1 atlas, 9 lionel, 7 no name that I can find, 6 ahm, 1 kf, and 3 aurora.<"
The quote listed above is from the auction.
OOOOooooo 33 tyco's and 6 bachmann engines and some really cool AHM"S! I can't wait to bid $10,000 for those premium engines!
And extra parts to make MORE Transformers! What dork would waste their time doing that LOL.
Crap
Mark R. wrote:The seller makes mention of the $18,000 insurance rider a couple times. Based on that fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised the seller has the reserve set somewhere between 7,000 and 9,000 !!! I know, I know, it's not worth anywhere near that to us .... I just got a feeling.
Ok - I'll admit I was off. Reserve has been set at $3700.00 !!!
Mark.
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tatans wrote:I also get a kick of some responses on the mental state of this individual who would collect 3000 cars, there comment is "I only have 800 cars" what could anyone possibly do with 800 cars ! ! is there a contest somewhere?? ----800?
Only 3000 cars! what a rank amature hoarder he must have been!
I can't belive how high the bid has gotten. $3691 at this point. Maybe if these were all at least Athearn blue box level..... You know this means that he really had no one he shared this with. Seems extremely lonely to me.
tatans wrote:I also get a kick of some responses on the mental state of this individual who would collect 3000 cars, there comment is "I only have 800 cars" what could anyone possibly do with 800 cars ! ! is there a contest somewhere?? ----800 ? ? a 100 cars would be excess.
I would tend to take your numbers with a bit of salt. For the average modeler that has a spare bedroom layout, 100 is probably an adaquate supply. Given two conditions. A. He does not rotate cars off the layout. And B. His ambitions stay relativly constant. The First prize winner of the track plan contest that was recently held in Model Railroader was a 9X11 foot (I think) model railroad that was crammed full of big city switching. The car estimate for that railroad was 200 cars. More if you fiddled cars off the layout at the two interchanges.
The old V&O Afton Division is I think everyone will agree was the definitive of what we expect a big home basement layout. In the Jan 2004 Issiue of Model Railroader where he talks about his new V&O plan, he reveald to keep the Afton Division fluid required a supply of close to 1500 cars.
So while cars in the thousands seem like a lot. When viewed in relation to the guys modeling objectives, The case for large supply of cars makes sense. However in this guys case, it seems like he just kept buying and buying without any regard a cohiesive model railroad. That is when you have a problem.
I admit that I have a lot of trains. Over 600 cars and around 125 engines total. But I am building the initial sections of what will eventially a Grand multi deck layout in my future basement. I have gone for the Woodland Scenics Modules due to their light weight, relative compactness. and recognition of the fact that my living accomodations while somewhat long term, are not permananent. So I have decided to start things off with a branch line of my future model rairlaod to keep me going stir crazy. What I will probably do is go through a rationalization. Sell a train I have that doesn't fit my needs, and then buy one that does with the proceeds.
James
There are more notes added to the description, including:
"Finally, there are about 8 or so 50' tank car kits NIB Santa Fe's, marked 7.25 each, there are some engines with brass wheels, there are rock island engines with half of the wheels brass and half just like the others. One of them even has silver like wheels, says made in yugoslavia"
Wow, engines with BRASS wheels! And one made in Yogoslavia! The mind boggles!
Probably a whole lot of horn-hook couplers too!
Bob Boudreau
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Railphotog wrote:There are more notes added to the description, including:"Finally, there are about 8 or so 50' tank car kits NIB Santa Fe's, marked 7.25 each, there are some engines with brass wheels, there are rock island engines with half of the wheels brass and half just like the others. One of them even has silver like wheels, says made in yugoslavia"Wow, engines with BRASS wheels! And one made in Yogoslavia! The mind boggles!Probably a whole lot of horn-hook couplers too!
tstage wrote: Mailman wrote: He who dies with the most toys, wins !Corey's right. He who dies with the most toys...still dies!
That's why it's important to get a LOT of toys, before it's too late
If I were to aquire this I would pick and choose what works for my layout then sell off the Reeeessssstt..
looks like the kind of stuff I find at train shows, some goodies, the usual and the toyish stuff.
Have fun with your trains
Snagletooth wrote:''Yoo-Hoo! Throw in some cheap traction tires and a rubber band drive and I'm back in the bidding!''
I'm right there with ya!! and if you add some of those quality plastic wheelsets...I'm in for 20k!
I'm sure now that it's going to be a dealer that buys all that mess, and I'm also sure a lot of it will show up back on EBAY in the coming months. Even if the bidding goes to $5000+ I think the buyer will make back a good portion of the money he spent.......has anyone seen the prices for that old stuff when it sells piece by piece? and the shipping???
As for 3000+ cars and locos being ''excessive''? depends on how you look at it.....I consider people who have 3,4 or more cars to be ''excessive'', and fishermen? [of which I am one] hundreds of lures and 30 poles? yep, thats ''excessive'', how about folks with more than one house? very ''excessive''. I have 40+ locos[powered] and 30 or so unpowered and 200 or so cars.......sure I can't run them all at the same time.....but I grab deals when I can...and it adds up.
This auction is certainly entertaining, I would like to know who wins, too bad it's private.
Cederstrand wrote:James, thank you for admitting your own numbers. I was affraid if 100 cars makes one a hoarder, I'm in big trouble. I still don't have a layout, but it does look promising to finally start one by the end of this year. And I did sell off most of my diesels when I decided the future layout would be steam era. Then again, I have sinse bought a few new diesels because I could justify them on a "transition era" layout. Rob ps: 125 engines...it is safe to say I will NEVER have that many.LOL
No problem. I always feel that if you are going to make claims, that you should be willing to back them up with facts. My grandmother does think I have a problem. But then again. When your modeling a Railroad thats going to go from Wyoming to Oregon, and be on at least two, probably 3 decks, 125 engines, and 600 cars is no where near eneugh. The V&O was just one deck, and it had 1500 cars. The theme for my freelance Wyoming, Idaho, Oregon &Pacific railroad is a fiscially conservative Railraod that dieselised late, Only recieving sets of FTs During WWII, after which they were equipped for Passenger service for the Chicago-Denver-Portland "Oregon Trail Zypher" which was joint run with the CB&Q. This arragement being a compromise measure figureing that the Q would want to project a modern image all along the route, and the WIOP managment not wanting to invest in expensive new passenger power.
This I figure would let me enjoy a Modern Steam Railroad with the only hint of the pending Diseaselization (Yes I itnentionaly spelled it that way) being the FTs on the Modern Zypher. THe cars for which to are a fiscially responsable measure, being rebuilt from heavyweights into "Streamliners" with fluted sides. the only new cars being purchased being Domes.
As for what to do with my more modern vintage items, I am not sure. Everyone in my family tells me not to sell them but at the same time, they aren't going to see very much use. Perhaps if my railroad lasts long eneugh that the model steamers completely wear out I can move the era foward wth my diesles.
By the way, My new layout I am building is going to be 9X12 feet out of woodland scenics modules, with a staging yard made from recycled components of my current layout in the 2.5X8 foot closet and will depict a branch of the WIOP running north from Casper to Midwest WY to service the oilfields in the area around the famous "Teapot Dome."
From the auction....."The next bidder hits the reserve and takes the whole lot. It was only set at 3700.00. I wasn't kidding when I said the reserve was no where near the 18,000 insurance paper. So if interested, it can be yours on the next bid. Thanks, Bonnie"
Looks like shill bids, if you ask me.
PFS wrote: From the auction....."The next bidder hits the reserve and takes the whole lot. It was only set at 3700.00. I wasn't kidding when I said the reserve was no where near the 18,000 insurance paper. So if interested, it can be yours on the next bid. Thanks, Bonnie" Looks like shill bids, if you ask me.
That is what I was saying before. At least I ain't the only one with this "train of thought". Like I said before, if you could see the "bidder's" IDs, there would be a lot of zero IDs that were created years ago and just as many golden boys. If you look at that other large lot up right now, you can see just what I am talking about.
Edit: After looking at the auction again, there definately is something "fishy" going on here. The reserve, and now winning bid will be at $3,700 and all the aggressive and fast bidding mysteriously stops at $3691. Hmmmmmmm................
All of a sudden nobody is going to bid the extra few bucks to win the auction and take it all home.
csmith9474 wrote: PFS wrote: From the auction....."The next bidder hits the reserve and takes the whole lot. It was only set at 3700.00. I wasn't kidding when I said the reserve was no where near the 18,000 insurance paper. So if interested, it can be yours on the next bid. Thanks, Bonnie" Looks like shill bids, if you ask me.That is what I was saying before. At least I ain't the only one with this "train of thought". Like I said before, if you could see the "bidder's" IDs, there would be a lot of zero IDs that were created years ago and just as many golden boys. If you look at that other large lot up right now, you can see just what I am talking about.Edit: After looking at the auction again, there definately is something "fishy" going on here. The reserve, and now winning bid will be at $3,700 and all the aggressive and fast bidding mysteriously stops at $3691. Hmmmmmmm................ All of a sudden nobody is going to bid the extra few bucks to win the auction and take it all home.
Yes, magically all the feverish bidding stops just shy of the reserve and no bids for a day.....hrm
Those locos with brass wheels on one side and the ones with silver wheels that were made in Yugoslavia are probably responsible for the bidding-frenzy thus far.
This auction looks like a bigger scam with every hour that ticks by without another bid. Why did she suddenly feel the need to tell everyone the reserve price? They know the bulk of this collection should be scooped up with a front-end loader and dropped into one of those oversize dumpsters. The only items that look to be of any quality are those 3 Atlas/Roco yellow & blue Santa Fe diesels, and that ain't saying much.
Nelson
Ex-Southern 385 Being Hoisted
If this pile of low end trains, tossed in boxes sells (to a real buyer); then I need to scour the local thrift stores for some stuff to sell on ebay.
Enjoy
Paul
Here's an pertinent article, even it's a bit out-of-date.
Forbes.com: Sleaze Bay
SteamFreak wrote: Here's an pertinent article, even it's a bit out-of-date.
Sorry, by definition in Internet business an article over 6 years old is not pertinent. EBay isn't perfect, but there are a number of safeguards that have been added since November of 2000.
In any case, I don't see how it applies to this situation. I guess you're suggesting that there is shill bidding going on. More than likely it's just delusional greed by buyers who think they will make a killing reselling this mess.
So much for the feverish bidding.
This whole auction suddenly extrudes an oder not unlike that of a rotting fish in humid and hot weather.
alco_fan wrote: SteamFreak wrote: Here's an pertinent article, even it's a bit out-of-date.Sorry, by definition in Internet business an article over 6 years old is not pertinent. EBay isn't perfect, but there are a number of safeguards that have been added since November of 2000.In any case, I don't see how it applies to this situation. I guess you're suggesting that there is shill bidding going on. More than likely it's just delusional greed by buyers who think they will make a killing reselling this mess.
If these bidders are so greedy and want this mess so bad, why don't they cough up the $8 and change needed to win the auction?
I , too, am suspicious of the sudden stall in bidding, just short of the ''reserve price''. The fact that the bidders ID's are private is a red flag for me on an auction of this type , why conceal the names? If you're running an honest auction theres no need for a private bidders list......only thing i can see that you'd need it for is a bunch of shill bids.
I stopped by my LHS today and in the course of the BS'ing and tall tales, the subject of this very auction came up, the concensus was that the current price was about $3k too much! I said if I had $500 or $600 to blow I might spend it on a lot like that, the owner of the shop said ''come here a second and look at this''....in his back room he had several boxes of TYCO and old Athearn stuff......in pieces, in chunks,in sandwich bags......he said ''I'll bet you 90% of that stuff will look like this when he buyer picks it up''. He has a good point.....the pics are lousy, the fact that it came from ''a cluttered basement'', and the obvious lack of knowledge or care demonstrated by the seller makes me wonder what the buyer is going to be paying for....usuable railroad equipment or piles of styrene and metal.