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Genesis FP45s & F45s!!!!!!!

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Posted by pro_crip on Thursday, November 2, 2006 8:06 AM
 mustanggt wrote:

 

   Here's something I don't think anybody metioned on the forum yet...........

Dave

 



actually, http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/928699/ShowPost.aspx
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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, November 2, 2006 9:04 AM

 AntonioFP45 wrote:
RTPoteet,

Thanks! Still, I would like to read that Athearn has confirmed this.

 

Here ya go!

 

Greetings.

Here's the latest info on our projects (the ones that we can talk about). Most of this
information presented here was released at the NMRA Convention in Philadelphia, but we recognize
that many of you haven't heard it directly from us yet.

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Overview
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We have nearly forty (40) separate projects (HO and N scale) going right now. These include new
tooling of locomotives, freight cars, passenger cars, and vehicles as well as upgrades of
existing Athearn and ex-MDC tooling. We aren't ready to talk about all of these (really) so we
won't be answering questions about any of them. A word of advice, ok? If you send e-mails or
letters asking for more info we won't be able to answer them. Because there isn't any more information.
Here's the info that we do have for you, enough to whet your interest, maybe?

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GENESIS (ALL Genesis is HO scale)
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F45-FP45
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The flagships of the Santa Fe railroad are accurately rendered with all-new state-of-the-art
tooling, Genesis drive, directional lighting and other top features, including DCC and sound.
Line listings are not yet available. ETA Summer 2007.

MT4 4-8-2 Southern Pacific
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Our models of the Sacramento-built MT4-4-8-2 will come with or without the signature SP
"skyline" casing. Individually applied parts include piping, valves, generators and more. Two
tender variations will be offered. Line listings not yet available. ETA Late 2007.

FEF2 and FEF-3 Union Pacific
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The Genesis realistic renditions of The Union Pacific classic oil and coal burners are available
with or without smoke deflectors and Mars light and with either single or double stacks. Line
listings not yet available. ETA Fall 2007.

MP15AC
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Announced long ago, we are diligently working on this workhorse. Challenged by fitting sound and
interior into a very small body, we expect to see these early 2007. We know that they will be
worth the wait.

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Ready-To-Roll (all Ready-To-Roll is HO Scale)
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GP40X
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We have already announced the GP40X, and early pre-production deco samples look great. This is
upgraded Rail Power Products (RPP) tooling with many appearance and performance upgrades. See
our web site for details.

SD45
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The first diesel with more than 16 cylinders, the mighty 20 cylinder SD45 became one of EMD's
top sellers when introduced in the mid-1960s. This is ex-RPP tooling, with many appearance and
performance upgrades (similar to our already upgraded GP35, SD38 and SD40). Line listings not
yet available. ETA Spring 2007.

Clay Slurry Tank Car
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This new model features all new tooling that accurately replicates the Union Tank Car classic.
It offers photo etched end platforms, McHenry AAR upper/lower shelf couplers and more. Line
listings will be announced NEXT WEEK. ETA Late 2006.

48' Chassis and Container
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Adding to our intermodal equipment, we will be announcing this combo next week. ETA Late 2006.

Watch for more chassis lengths in the coming months. Line listings not available.

Southern Pacific 1937 and 1938 "Daylight" Trains For a period layout (and collectors of
beautiful things), Southern Pacific's "Daylight" passenger cars are loaded with prototypically
accurate features, including an operating full-width diaphragm and full interior, and will come
with or without skirting. Line listings are not yet available. ETA Early 2007.

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N Scale
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F45-FP45
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EMD Created just 86 F45 units, recognizable by their streamlined bodies. Line listings not yet
available. ETA Summer 2007.

4-6-6-4 Challenger
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First test shots of this locomotive are impressive. If you're at the N Scale Collectors Show in
Denver this weekend you'll see one in person. We'll have photos of the deco samples (due to
arrive late this month) on our web site as soon as we get the models to photograph. ETA on these
beauties is (we hope) late this year or early 2007.

Mack Trucks
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The Mack trucks are moving ahead. Slowly. (They're little tiny models and they take quite a
while for our expert tool makers to get them "just right"). We'll have Mack 'R' and Mack 'B'
tractors, tow trucks, mixers and dump trucks. We have early test samples that we'll be showing
this weekend at the N Scale Collectors Show. We expect to make formal announcement of paint
schemes and item numbers in September or October for delivery early next year.

That's it. Any more projects that we have underway just aren't yet ready for discussion. We'll
let you know more at the proper time.

Thanks for reading this.

The Folks at Athearn



 

Larry

Conductor.

Summerset Ry.


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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Thursday, November 2, 2006 9:46 AM

 4884bigboy wrote:
Did anyone hear yet? Genesis announced that they will be adding EMD FP45s and F45s to their line next year!Big Smile [:D] No roadnames or arrival dates as of yet, but if they're Genesis I bet they'll do one with sound!!!! I believe they also announced they will be doing UP FEF-3s in HO as well, and the FP45s and F45s will also be done in N scale.

Also, it was either Genesis or BLI that announced SP MT-4 4-8-2s. There were a lot of announcements, all made at that big National Trainshow this weekend. I'll have to go look at the page and come back with more, or someone else can chime in and add announcments I missed.

Either way, FP45s in HO!!!!Cool [8D]Tongue [:P] I'm stoked!

This is the second time Athearn has talked about the F45 and FP45's at a trade show, but has yet to publish anything in writing.  I believe it was in the MR coming products about three months ago.   

You would have to wonder is it is a test the waters item and our reponse will determine the production of the leaked announcements. 

They did talk about the MT4 both skylined and non skylined also.

The FEF-2 and FEF-3 series was also leaked in both oil and coal versions with and without mars light and smoke lifters.

 

 

NEWS FLASH FROM ATHEARN

 

We're going to be at Trainfest in Milwaukee on November 11 and November 12. Come see us. We'll have many of our newest items there, including body shells for our HO and N F45/FP45. For details on the show, see http://www.trainfest.com/  It's a terrific show, and if you haven't been, and if you're anywhere nearby, you owe yourself the trip.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Thursday, November 2, 2006 11:40 AM

Zephyr,

Your point is understandable but it would be a very poor judgement call on Athearn's part if after announcing the cowls several months ago and helping to generate the fanfare on the forums to suddenly pull the plug.

If they actually have some shells to show, then apparently they've made the big 6 figure or 7 figure investment in the units. 

I like to be optimistic:  Athearn (or the Chinese "contractee" ) did a  beautiful job with the "not so common" SD45-2.  So I'm expecting the same with the big cowls.  I'm just happy that after several years of hearing or reading comments like:

1. "Aw, come on.....who wants one? Only a couple of railroads owned those things"

2.  "Only a few modelers would by them"

3.  "No manufacturer will ever make one"

4. "F45 and FP45s?  Nah....., the market is hot for F units, and modern AC locomotives."

Looks like Athearn saw the light, especially after the rumor 2 years back that Kato was being sought after to produce the cowls.....and apparently there was some interest.  

 

 

     

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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Thursday, November 2, 2006 12:02 PM
 AntonioFP45 wrote:

Zephyr,

Your point is understandable but it would be a very poor judgement call on Athearn's part if after announcing the cowls several months ago and helping to generate the fanfare on the forums to suddenly pull the plug.

If they actually have some shells to show, then apparently they've made the big 6 figure or 7 figure investment in the units. 

I like to be optimistic:  Athearn (or the Chinese "contractee" ) did a  beautiful job with the "not so common" SD45-2.  So I'm expecting the same with the big cowls.  I'm just happy that after several years of hearing or reading comments like:

1. "Aw, come on.....who wants one? Only a couple of railroads owned those things"

2.  "Only a few modelers would by them"

3.  "No manufacturer will ever make one"

4. "F45 and FP45s?  Nah....., the market is hot for F units, and modern AC locomotives."

Looks like Athearn saw the light, especially after the rumor 2 years back that Kato was being sought after to produce the cowls.....and apparently there was some interest.  

   

Antonio

I agree they are doing them since they are showing the shells and we probably will be able to buy them in six months or so.  This latest email from Athearn news confirms it.

I certainly will purchase some of the FP45's since I have watched them since they were almost new an have seen most of them again since they were preserved and put on display.

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 2, 2006 2:23 PM
Mark me up for an FP45, SD45, MP15AC and an FEF-2 or 3! Way to go Athearn! They chose some great prototypes.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, November 6, 2006 6:23 AM

One thing I hope they include:  Working Class lights!

I know that's probably asking for too much but I think they are a neat looking feature.

In the late 1960s and during 1970s the class lights were functional but railroads started eliminating them from most locomotives in the 80s.  Santa Fe eliminated them as well.

So I wonder if Athearn will have the Class Lights in the 1968 version cowls.

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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Monday, November 6, 2006 11:41 AM
 AntonioFP45 wrote:

One thing I hope they include:  Working Class lights!

I know that's probably asking for too much but I think they are a neat looking feature.

In the late 1960s and during 1970s the class lights were functional but railroads started eliminating them from most locomotives in the 80s.  Santa Fe eliminated them as well.

So I wonder if Athearn will have the Class Lights in the 1968 version cowls.

 

Antonio

There is a show next week end that Athearn is scheduled to show the Prototype shells.  If we can get someone to post pictures of the shell from that show, your question might be answered.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, November 6, 2006 11:48 AM
 CAZEPHYR wrote:
 AntonioFP45 wrote:

One thing I hope they include:  Working Class lights!

I know that's probably asking for too much but I think they are a neat looking feature.

In the late 1960s and during 1970s the class lights were functional but railroads started eliminating them from most locomotives in the 80s.  Santa Fe eliminated them as well.

So I wonder if Athearn will have the Class Lights in the 1968 version cowls.

 

Antonio

There is a show next week end that Athearn is scheduled to show the Prototype shells.  If we can get someone to post pictures of the shell froms that show, your question might be answered.

 

That will be possible only if its a COMPLETE preproduction shell.

Larry

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Posted by gn goat on Monday, November 6, 2006 1:24 PM
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the goat

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