which locmotive

[Anonymous]

HO Atlas EMD GP38, 2,000 HP built in Jan 66 comes with dual -mode DCC decorder, four axle switcher.
Minimum radius:18", has cab interior, directional headlights, drawbar pull:3.36 oz, dual flywheel, engine weight
16 oz.. According to MR their sample came beautifully decorated, paint masking and printing is excellent. Should be able to pull 47 free-rolling cars with metal wheels ". Atlas has a superb production job". Had a suggested retail price of $130.00 but you can do better now & probably thru one of the mail order houses.

HO Atlas EMD GP 40, 3,000HP built in Dec 91 comes DCC ready to accept, four axle loco.
Minimum radius:18", has cab interior,directional headlights, drawbar pull:4.2 oz, dual flywheel, engine weight
16oz."One of the best commercial finishing MR has seen". Should be able to pull 58 free-rolling cars with metal wheels. Had a suggested retail price of $120.00 but you can do better now & probably thru one of the mail order houses.

HO Atlas GE Dash 8-40B, 4000HP built Apr.88 comes with dual-mode decorder, four axle loco.
Minimum radius:18",has cab interior,directional headlights, drawbar pull:3.2 oz, dual flywheel, engine weight
17.5 oz. According to MR," Atlas once again raises the standard we've come to expect for performance & detail". Should be able
to pull 45 free rolling cars with metal wheels. Had a suggested retail price of $140.00 but you can do better now & probably
thru one of the mail order houses.

I own the Atlas dash 8-32B for $90.00 and it's one of the best detailed I own.

Atlas enjoys a great reputation and I don't recall any criticism. They also run a four forums.Check them out at www.atlasrr.com and click on forum.

B stands for two axle truck and 40 stands for 4,000HP, the 32 stands for 3,200HP.

Other members will also have some additional comments.

I can mail you copies should you want one. Let me know at [e-mail]

Do you need any more infor???????

[Anonymous]

HO Atlas EMD GP38, 2,000 HP built in Jan 66 comes with dual -mode DCC decorder, four axle switcher.
Minimum radius:18", has cab interior, directional headlights, drawbar pull:3.36 oz, dual flywheel, engine weight
16 oz.. According to MR their sample came beautifully decorated, paint masking and printing is excellent. Should be able to pull 47 free-rolling cars with metal wheels ". Atlas has a superb production job". Had a suggested retail price of $130.00 but you can do better now & probably thru one of the mail order houses.

HO Atlas EMD GP 40, 3,000HP built in Dec 91 comes DCC ready to accept, four axle loco.
Minimum radius:18", has cab interior,directional headlights, drawbar pull:4.2 oz, dual flywheel, engine weight
16oz."One of the best commercial finishing MR has seen". Should be able to pull 58 free-rolling cars with metal wheels. Had a suggested retail price of $120.00 but you can do better now & probably thru one of the mail order houses.

HO Atlas GE Dash 8-40B, 4000HP built Apr.88 comes with dual-mode decorder, four axle loco.
Minimum radius:18",has cab interior,directional headlights, drawbar pull:3.2 oz, dual flywheel, engine weight
17.5 oz. According to MR," Atlas once again raises the standard we've come to expect for performance & detail". Should be able
to pull 45 free rolling cars with metal wheels. Had a suggested retail price of $140.00 but you can do better now & probably
thru one of the mail order houses.

I own the Atlas dash 8-32B for $90.00 and it's one of the best detailed I own.

Atlas enjoys a great reputation and I don't recall any criticism. They also run a four forums.Check them out at www.atlasrr.com and click on forum.

B stands for two axle truck and 40 stands for 4,000HP, the 32 stands for 3,200HP.

Other members will also have some additional comments.

I can mail you copies should you want one. Let me know at [e-mail]

Do you need any more infor???????

[Anonymous]

I don't agree with the rest of the board. I run nothing but 6 axle engines on my layout, and I have several 18" radius turns and one 18" radius loop. I have never had a problem. The engines I am running are the Kato SD70MAC's, SD40-2's and SD45's and Athearn SD-40-2's And SD-45's. My favorite Loco's
are of course the Kato's. I consider the Kato SD70MAC's my best engines and NEVER had one derail on me.

[Anonymous]

I don't agree with the rest of the board. I run nothing but 6 axle engines on my layout, and I have several 18" radius turns and one 18" radius loop. I have never had a problem. The engines I am running are the Kato SD70MAC's, SD40-2's and SD45's and Athearn SD-40-2's And SD-45's. My favorite Loco's
are of course the Kato's. I consider the Kato SD70MAC's my best engines and NEVER had one derail on me.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kwstamper

I don't agree with the rest of the board. I run nothing but 6 axle engines on my layout, and I have several 18" radius

I would suspect your models have greater lateral truck swing .

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kwstamper

I don't agree with the rest of the board. I run nothing but 6 axle engines on my layout, and I have several 18" radius

I would suspect your models have greater lateral truck swing .

[der5997]

Locomotive3
I think that the Model Power Alco C630 (I hope I've got that right) a 6 axel model, will run on 18" radius, but as you surmise, it has truck mounted couplers. I'd have to check with my next door neighbour who inherited mine, to see if I got around to body mounting the couplers, them before I gave the locos away. By that time I don't think there were 18" radius curves left on that layout.

[der5997]

Locomotive3
I think that the Model Power Alco C630 (I hope I've got that right) a 6 axel model, will run on 18" radius, but as you surmise, it has truck mounted couplers. I'd have to check with my next door neighbour who inherited mine, to see if I got around to body mounting the couplers, them before I gave the locos away. By that time I don't think there were 18" radius curves left on that layout.

[Anonymous]

To qualify in my book a loco should be able to run through a turn unattended for hours. I have yet to find any loco that will run through an 18" code 100 atlas snap track pulling at least 10 cars at about 30 scale mph. that will meet this criteria. Same with #4 turnouts. All the locos that I mentioned I have will pass this test in 22" radius, but not in 18. In fact, it's hard to even find 10 freight cars that will pass this test in 18 radius. But on 30" and 36" it's hard to find anything that will not pass this test. And another interesting point is the Atherns GP9 I have will run through 18" radius better long hood forward than the other way. I even swapped the trucks and it still runs better long hood forward? Another point on small radius is you can't run long cars or long trains, so you are limiting yourself as to what you can run. That seems like something you can live with at first, but I expect most modelers will come to not like that decesion in the future. I love long trains. The otherday I was running a train that was 26 feet long with 3 powered locos. Try that in a 22 or 15 radius.

[Anonymous]

To qualify in my book a loco should be able to run through a turn unattended for hours. I have yet to find any loco that will run through an 18" code 100 atlas snap track pulling at least 10 cars at about 30 scale mph. that will meet this criteria. Same with #4 turnouts. All the locos that I mentioned I have will pass this test in 22" radius, but not in 18. In fact, it's hard to even find 10 freight cars that will pass this test in 18 radius. But on 30" and 36" it's hard to find anything that will not pass this test. And another interesting point is the Atherns GP9 I have will run through 18" radius better long hood forward than the other way. I even swapped the trucks and it still runs better long hood forward? Another point on small radius is you can't run long cars or long trains, so you are limiting yourself as to what you can run. That seems like something you can live with at first, but I expect most modelers will come to not like that decesion in the future. I love long trains. The otherday I was running a train that was 26 feet long with 3 powered locos. Try that in a 22 or 15 radius.

[Wdlgln005]

If you want big locomotives on 18" track, forget HO and go with N. Use the same 18" or 19" radius on curves. Use the same ROW for most buildings & structures. Now you can run a Eunit + 6 passenger cars & the train will look great! In the same length run 2 freight engines & 20-30 freight cars with a caboose. Sidings can have 1.5" clearance for 2 train operation.

[Wdlgln005]

If you want big locomotives on 18" track, forget HO and go with N. Use the same 18" or 19" radius on curves. Use the same ROW for most buildings & structures. Now you can run a Eunit + 6 passenger cars & the train will look great! In the same length run 2 freight engines & 20-30 freight cars with a caboose. Sidings can have 1.5" clearance for 2 train operation.

[CP5415]

Ok, am I missing something here. I have an 18" curve on my layout. Mind you it's hidden in a tunnel. But I've had no problem running SD40-2's, C44-9w's Rivarossi's 85' passenger cars, these at full throttle & Rivarossi 4-6-6-4's
I've had no problems running them at speed or crawling along. It may not look correct esthetically, but since it's in a tunnel with at least an inch & a half on both sides, no one is going to see it after the tunnel is complete.

Just my 2 cents

Gordon

[CP5415]

Ok, am I missing something here. I have an 18" curve on my layout. Mind you it's hidden in a tunnel. But I've had no problem running SD40-2's, C44-9w's Rivarossi's 85' passenger cars, these at full throttle & Rivarossi 4-6-6-4's
I've had no problems running them at speed or crawling along. It may not look correct esthetically, but since it's in a tunnel with at least an inch & a half on both sides, no one is going to see it after the tunnel is complete.

Just my 2 cents

Gordon