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MTH K4 video at MR

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 19, 2006 3:02 PM
Is that a 4-4-6-4?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 19, 2006 3:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by PennsyHoosier

QUOTE: Who is going to bring us the PRR Q2 in plastic or die cast??


Amen! We already have K4s and T1. Let's have someone step out and do something really interesting.






I can go along with your request for sure. The Q2's were great and time might have allowed the Pennsy to improve on the design if they had run a few more years.

I got to see the Q2's in Chicago during the summer of 1949, and they were very large indeed compared to M1's, K4's. The J1 were a better overall engine, but the Q2 was in a class of its own.

I would welcome the L1 also since the K4 and L1 shared the same boiler, one of the two companies that have the K4 should make the L1. The E 6 would be another great PRR engine.


I reviewed the MTH K4 advertisement, and MTH has made their model without any modifications since it is based on the 1928 prototype. Comparing it to the BLI version is like comparing Apples to Oranges. My BLI is based on the engine in the late forties and early fifties and several modification were made by that time, which included the stoker engine installation, the addition of the whistle deflector and removal of the marker lights. I also purchased the post WWII version that has the solid pilot and the headlight generator positions exchanged.

My era is in the early fifites when both steam and diesel were used side by side. This is the best era for me as I can see both types working together.

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Posted by Eddie_walters on Monday, June 19, 2006 4:55 PM
I'd also much rather see an L1, H8/9/10, or something else new. The Q2s are interesting, but hardly a significant loco (and out of my time frame!). There's also the disadvantage that you need quite a large layout to be able to run one.

It would be nice to have some of the workhorses for once (and well done PCM for delivering that with the I1sa - just a shame it's been delayed!).
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 19, 2006 7:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Eddie_walters

I'd also much rather see an L1, H8/9/10, or something else new. The Q2s are interesting, but hardly a significant loco (and out of my time frame!). There's also the disadvantage that you need quite a large layout to be able to run one.

It would be nice to have some of the workhorses for once (and well done PCM for delivering that with the I1sa - just a shame it's been delayed!).


The I1 will be a welcome addition, but the delay will just make it more desirable, at least to me.

The H series 2-8-0's are neat and can be used like you stated on more layouts than the larger engines. However, they do not sell as well because everyone seems to want the largest, greatest and high horsepower locomotive models.
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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Monday, June 19, 2006 10:57 PM
Good points made. I am waiting breathlessly for the PCM I1sa.

Lawrence, The Pennsy Hoosier
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 19, 2006 11:20 PM
I hope they make it available with one of the large sixteen wheel tenders (21F82a) on the second run. The I1 looked so great with the large tenders that were almost as large as the engine itself, and actually weighed more loaded than the I1sa engine.

Engine 386,100 Lb
210F82a 411,520 lbs loaded
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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:00 AM
Agreed, Bangert1. That was a magnificent loco and tender combination. Say, have you read "Set Up Running: The Life of a Pennsylvania Railroad Engineman, 1904-1949" by John W. Orr? It has some great descriptions of the I1, as well the L1, K4s, etc.



By the way, you can see the book at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/027102741X/sr=8-1/qid=1150804548/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0639505-8577423?%5Fencoding=UTF8
Lawrence, The Pennsy Hoosier

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