Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.
Modeling BNSF and Milwaukee Road in SW Wisconsin
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QUOTE: Originally posted by bbrant Not to change the subject but you mentioned you model the B&P at your club. What club is that? I'm a memeber of the Laurel Highlands Model RR Club in Somerset. If you're up that way between late November and mid-January, stop in and see the layouts that are setup. (I think we have 15 or so on display). Stop in and take a look. Brian
QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005 Chip, the main for the B&P has to be the line from Buffalo to Pittsburgh, everything else is branches. The "spaghetti" factor is just a result of the area's physical geography. I don't really see there being any difference between a short line and a regional, except perhaps in the number of branches it has. The B&P is almost as wide as it is long.
QUOTE: Originally posted by IRONROOSTER This link has some info on what the requirements are and who is a class 1 railroad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_I_railroad Enjoy Paul
QUOTE: Originally posted by bbrant I don't know what the official ruling is for how lines are classified but here's my "in a nutshell" interpretation. Class 1 Major corporation with thousands of miles of trackage, mostly well kept mainlines, for high speed, long distance freights. Basically the "super 7" class 1 roads are - i.e. CSX, NS, UP, BNSF, KCS, CP and CN. Typically have newer and bigger power. Branchline Line owned by a class 1 road but doesn't have the traffic volume that a mainline has. Typically not as well maintained as a mainline either and doesn't allow for frieghts to "highball" like the would on a main. Regional Not as big as a class 1 and not as small as a shortline - both in terms of trackage and financially. Unline class 1s, a regional isn't spread out over many states but rather just a specific region. Examples of regionals that I can think of are: Bessemer & Lake Erie (prior to takeover from CN), Reading Northern (Reading Blue Mountain Northern) and B&P. Normally have older units no longer needed by class 1s and range from SDs units to SWs. Shortline Typically a line that has relatively few miles of trackage and limted resources (including a limited budget) to maintain it's line. Normally rosters only a few engines, possibly as few as a single unit and usually are 4-axel units such as GPs or old GEs. (Personally I've never known of a shortline to have anything bigger than a 4-axel diesel on it's roster.) Best chance of seeing any remaining first generation units such GP7 or 9s. Track for a shortine is normally in rather rough shape and doesn't allow for running at high speeds like a regional or class 1. Ok, that's my interpretation of the typical characteristics of the various types of railroads. Of course there are other things to consider like train frequency, number of crews on the roster, etc... that also come into factor. Feel free to make any other suggestions or corrections. Brian
QUOTE: Originally posted by selector What is a spur, then? Can all roads have spurs, or do they just have branches? Couldn't a short line have a spur? Can a short line have a branch? We need a schematic that shows what's what.
QUOTE: Originally posted by jrbernier Chip, a 'Short Line' would be an independent small railroad(like the California Western). A 'Branch Line' would be a small line branching off of the same railroad. For example; The Milwaukee Road mainline between St Paul and La Crosse had a 'Branch Line' that left the mainline near Hastings, and went up the west bank of the St Croix river to Stillwater. This was a part of the Milwaukee system, and used Milwaukee Road engines and crews. Jim Bernier
QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005 QUOTE: Originally posted by IRONROOSTER This link has some info on what the requirements are and who is a class 1 railroad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_I_railroad Enjoy Paul Gee Paul, guess I'm a little behind the times. I didn't realize the bar had been raised so high. I'm not sure everything on that page is 100% accurate though. I thought the CP completely absorbed the Soo, which should have taken it off the list. The GTW is another one.