P-LineSoo Ha! I was just going to mention the Soo "Bulldog". She was damaged in a wreck and came out of the rebuild looking like this.
Ha! I was just going to mention the Soo "Bulldog". She was damaged in a wreck and came out of the rebuild looking like this.
Chuck - Modeling in HO scale and anything narrow gauge
IMHO this is ugly
And this
So much ugliness...so little time
I like the JC, LV and KCS. I have seen much worse on many other engines.
Take my advice with a grain of salt, heck I really like the Bicentennial GG1.
Dave
Is this limited to prototypes? If not, then - http://www.modelrectifier.com/product-p/0696805.htm
Whose bright idea was it to not scrap the Marx F2 mold? That is without a doubt the worst looking F unit of all time in any roadname.
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I KNOW you didn;t mean to post the Lehigh Valley scheme as an example of ugly. I'll agree the CNJ tangerine and blue was REALLY out there. Looked better in person when the ARHS F was painted that way and operated on the LGSR for some special trips. Looks better in DLW though as it is now in Steamtown.
That MRC F unit is even worse than the one I mentioned that came up in the Google image link for Conrail Fs.
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I always thought the late 1960's Penn Central F7's with the black paint and mating worms logo were a pretty bad color scheme.
South Penn:
There are no ugly F units! Period!! (although admittedly some look better than others).
....stir the pot....stir the pot....
Bear:
Can we put white wine in the water pistols, preferrably chilled?
Take care everybody!
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
trwroute P-LineSoo Ha! I was just going to mention the Soo "Bulldog". She was damaged in a wreck and came out of the rebuild looking like this. Rock Island had an F2 that they did the same thing with years before the Soo did theirs. I think it's a good look.
A good look? I'd have to squint my eyes pretty hard before I could agree. Squint so hard that I can't see at all, in fact. Lacking a nose headlight, they both look a lot like Voldemort.
As for the models cited by Darth Santa Fe, I always thought that MRC "F2A" was more joke than model, and Marx ---- well --- never mind.
Tom
ACYAs for the models cited by Darth Santa Fe, I always thought that MRC "F2A" was more joke than model, and Marx ---- well --- never mind.
The MRC/Model Power F2A actually is the Marx F2A, so that explains why it's so bad. I got one in a collection once, tuned it up, and sold it at a train show because I couldn't stand how it looked. And I like Tyco trains, so that's saying something!
Tom:
"...they both look a lot like Voldemort." Well said!
For us oldies, IMO they also look a lot like the Hunchback of Notre Dame too! Now there's an insult if there ever was one!
hon30critterCan we put white wine in the water pistols, preferrably chilled?
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
“I like the JC, LV and KCS” Heck!! I’m agreeing with David!!!! hon30critter Can we put white wine in the water pistols, preferrably chilled? No, I think it would have to be red for obvious reasons, then honour would possibly be satisfied. Cheers, the Bear.
hon30critter Can we put white wine in the water pistols, preferrably chilled?
Only if all participants were wearing white shirts. Red wine water gun battle might be the only time someone with a Star Trek redshirt uniform might actually survive.
ACY trwroute Rock Island had an F2 that they did the same thing with years before the Soo did theirs. I think it's a good look.
trwroute Rock Island had an F2 that they did the same thing with years before the Soo did theirs. I think it's a good look.
I get what makes some of these ugly. It's the similar yellow on black typeface that's on the Clinchfield/KCS/Lehigh Valley units. It's just boring and it looks non-straight from just about any angle.
Some of these choices of color combinations are pretty strange.
I like the WCRC "Spirit" logo, very 1980s.
Yeah, Metra's trains are pretty hideous. Imagine having to look at them your whole life. Those E/F units are kind of near and dear to me though, I remember riding them a lot to go downtown in the 80s.
To this day I have no idea why they think stainless cars look good with a blue/orange paint scheme.
Julian
Modeling Pre-WP merger UP (1974-81)
I like the KCS Belle colors. As for the rest, they are pretty bad paint schemes.
hon30critter South Penn: There are no ugly F units! Period!! (although admittedly some look better than others). Dave
Agreed. There are no ugly E or F units. Just bad paint jobs.
I have over 50 F units on my layout.
Weren't the only ugly F units Early (pre Shark) Baldwins?
I worked at a tank car repair plant in Zwolle, La, in the summer of 1978 on a track construction project. Saw a couple of the KCS F units in their white paint scheme, but they were so dirty and neglected they looked terrible.
LensCapOn Weren't the only ugly F units Early (pre Shark) Baldwins?
I guess it depends upon your definition of an F unit. Usually, in my experience, the term refers to EMD freight "covered wagon" cab units. Similar units of other builders aren't usually referred to as F units. Of course, this discussion has drifted to include E units and FA's too, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, so maybe it's OK to include the early BLW's.
I have to agree that the early BLW "baby face" units were not at all attractive. To my way of thinking, a basic EMD F "Bulldog" nose made for the best of the bunch; Sharks were neat if only because they were so distinctive, and the sound they made was beyond description; Alco and F-M freight cab units were nice, but not particularly exciting.
Of course it's all very subjective. There aren't really any wrong answers.
PS: A BL2 wasn't an F unit and it wasn't a Geep. How do you classify it, and what is the consensus on its looks? I confess I've never been able to decide because it's just so dang weird.
ACY Tom PS: A BL2 wasn't an F unit and it wasn't a Geep. How do you classify it, and what is the consensus on its looks? I confess I've never been able to decide because it's just so dang weird. Tom
The BL2s were F units under the skin. EMD modified the F units design to give the engineer a better view front and rear.
They're ugly.
There were no ugly F units.What happened was some railroads had people in charge of the company colour scheme who had no concept of what looked good.Hence some of the paint schemes that were applied did a very finely designed locomotive absolutely no favours. The corporate was satisfied but what do bean counters know about livery design.
DAVID FORTNEY I like the JC, LV and KCS. I have seen much worse on many other engines. Take my advice with a grain of salt, heck I really like the Bicentennial GG1. Dave
I'm with you on that, Dave. Actually I liked all of them except the CR one. give CR credit, though. they sure had a "creative" logo!
JaBear:
"...it would have to be red (wine) for obvious reasons....".
I'm not a big fan of most red wines anymore. They upset my poor tummy. However, I can still do a nice port!!
Thanks for thinking of me in the diner.
Cheers,
From the cheap-replacement number boards to the headlight without a cover to the strange marker lights, this has to be on of the ugliest of its kind.
Charles
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Charles:
That whole train looks weird!
Do you have a side view of the lead locomotive? The side panels look like they were stolen from an auto carrier! Even the cab door openings seem to have been butchered.
Ugly F units are the 1960 Canadian National paint scheme with black, red, and white in an obnoxious pattern. What a contrast the the original CNR eloquent green paint scheme !
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
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Garry!
Heartland Division CB&QUgly F units are the 1960 Canadian National paint scheme with black, red, and white in an obnoxious pattern. What a contrast the the original CNR eloquent green paint scheme !
I agree! However, you can't stop progress (no matter how bad the outcome is!).
SouthPenn IMHO this is ugly
South Penn, With the others I agree with you, but the one shown above in your link certainly isn't. In my opinion it is attractive, not subtle but quite acceptable and shouldn't be on your list.
Just an ol' Pharts experience and likes.
Johnboy out..............Everybody DUCK, I think he threw a J.D. bottle and thats not John Deere either.
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We have met the enemy, and he is us............ (Pogo)
last mountain & eastern hogger:
last mountain & eastern hoggerEverybody DUCK, I think he threw a J.D. bottle and thats not John Deere either.
Was that bottle full or empty? If it was empty I'll follow your advice and duck, but if it was full......now where the heck did I put my catcher's mitt?
ohhh you don't know ugly until you see anything L&N makes after that first decent paint job they had, and they put this awful design on EVERYTHING, even the E units. I don't know who designed it but he was clearly not very good at his job.