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Posted by MidlandPacific on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:08 PM

angelob6660

There's no direct route to Kansas City to Orlando without taking multiple destinations. Example KCY, CHI, WAS, ORL or KCY, CHI, PGH, PHL, ORL.

I do know that the Crescent. New York (Boston) to New Orleans. Consist includes, 2 P42, 1 Baggage, 2-3 Viewliner Sleeper, 1 Lounge and Diner, with 4 Coaches.

If you want the connection routes I'll post it.

 

Very similar consist to the Silver Service trains, which run on CSX between Washington and Florida- the Silver Star runs inland on the old Seaboard through the Carolina's, while the Silver Meteor runs on the Old ACL.  Coach and sleeper numbers vary, of course, but those trains are a modeler's dream- Heritage bags and diners, Amfleet coaches and lounge, and Viewliner sleepers.  Lot of variety in just one consist.

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Posted by MidlandPacific on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:17 PM

gator63

1st Thanks to all that posted for a lot of information on this subject I learned a lot . I have one more question than I will let this subject die. What percent of sleepers to coachs  and diners to lounges would you see on a typical run say say KC to Orlando or Boston to New Orleans? Just trying to get a little more info Thanks.

 

Typical long distance single level train has a lounge and diner in the middle of the train, 2-3 coaches at one end, 2-3 sleepers at the other, and a baggage car.  Some don't have sleepers (e.g., today's "Palmetto"), some don't have diners (Cardinal, Palmetto, Silver Star lately), and there have been times when some didn't have a baggage car (Cardinal a couple of years back).  Fleet types are mentioned in my previous email.

Bilevel trains can vary quite a bit, too- but the same basic rules hold, with variations typically coming in the presence or absence of a diner (and possibly a replacement, like a 37000 series diner-lounge).  bag cars always single level- usually Heritage, but this year the new Viewliner II bags are replacing them.

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Posted by gator63 on Saturday, September 19, 2015 8:31 PM

Yes I know  a KC to Orlando would be fictional but on my layout it would not be. Yes please post any connection routes. Like I said I'm looking for all the help I can get to make the train look as real as possable.

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Posted by angelob6660 on Saturday, September 19, 2015 11:43 PM

Kansas City to Orlando. Route 1

Southwest Chief (KCY-CHI), Capitol Limited (CHI-WAS), Silver Meteor (WAS-ORL)

Kansas City to Orlando. Route 2

Southwest Chief (KCY-CHI), Capitol Limited(CHI-PGH), Pennsylvanian (PGH-PIL), Silver Meteor (PIL-ORL)

Modeling the G.N.O. Railway, The Diamond Route.

Amtrak America, 1971-Present.

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Posted by Herk on Monday, September 21, 2015 8:10 PM

gator63

1st Thanks to all that posted for a lot of information on this subject I learned a lot . I have one more question than I will let this subject die. What percent of sleepers to coachs  and diners to lounges would you see on a typical run say say KC to Orlando or Boston to New Orleans? Just trying to get a little more info Thanks.

 
Gator,
You seem to be wanting to "prototype" a specific train for your layout.  With your screen name, I would recommend researching the Silver Series trains.  These go from North Carolina to St Petersburg or Miami (train splits in Jacksonville).  As I remember the train was headed by two EMD F40PHs (tail to tail) with 2-3 sleepers, diner car, 3-4 coach and baggage.
 
If you want to consider a smaller consist, the State of North Carolina owns and operates four "commuter trains" - the state owns the engines & rolling stock, AMTRAC provides the operating crews.  They are headed by an F59PHI with three coaches.  (Overland Models Incorporated offers an HO version of the F59PHI in NCDOT livery [Kit # 6083.1])

 

Regards and best wishes on your build
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Posted by Herk on Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:57 AM
If you decide to use the NCDOT Piedmont as an example, Wiki has a good article with picture - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmont_(train)

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