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Posted by mobilman44 on Saturday, January 7, 2012 9:01 AM

Well, my vote is for the "City of New Orleans" - which is probably more known for the song than the train itself.   That being said, as much as I would like to see it, I suspect Walthers would conclude that the audience for said train would be fairly narrow............

But, who knows???

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Posted by steamage on Saturday, January 7, 2012 10:19 AM

I noticed Walthers doing the Santa Fe and a UP City train that would start and terminate its run in Los Angeles Union Station.  What ever happend to the LA Union Station kit that they had advertised last year?  Will they ever produce the kit or just not enough orders for the kit?

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Saturday, January 7, 2012 12:49 PM

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What ever happend to the LA Union Station kit that they had advertised last year?  Will they ever produce the kit or just not enough orders for the kit?

Still to be produced.  Lots of trouble with the 3rd party manufacturer, but I think they might finally be in production.

Estimated as a March 30, 2012 release

Walthers LAUPT

 

The platforms were just released, so I guess that is a good sign the depot is also on its way:

Walthers LAUPT Platforms

 

With LAUPT presumably coming out in a few months, an SP Sunset Limited trainset might be another good train option for Walthers.  Or if Walthers likes the wave of support and pre-orders they've received from the Santa Fe Hi-Level El Cap, then maybe a Santa Fe San Diegan could be next.

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Sunday, January 8, 2012 8:06 AM

Here's one out of left field...since we are running out of famous passenger trains....

Walthers could put one of these together.  There's a very large variety of rolling stock and accessories, in addition to the standard pullmans and paired coahces.  There's also a universal appeal for a number of collectors for circus trains.  It's always one of the most popular at our annual shows as well.

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Posted by NILE on Sunday, January 8, 2012 10:13 AM

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:45 AM

DigitalGriffin

Here's one out of left field...since we are running out of famous passenger trains....

Walthers could put one of these together.  There's a very large variety of rolling stock and accessories, in addition to the standard pullmans and paired coahces.  There's also a universal appeal for a number of collectors for circus trains.  It's always one of the most popular at our annual shows as well.

Walthers already offered a circus train some 10 to 15 years ago including box cars, passenger cars and flat cars.  So technically you want them to offer ANOTHER circus trains!

BTW, a simple ebay key word search "walthers circus" will bring up all kinds of Walthers circus stuff available to buy.

Yours looks nice, but wouldn't mind seeing one offered that actually ran during my life time, not ancient history.  Something operated from the 1960's or newer.

 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:46 AM

Glitchy forums duplicated last post - edited to remove since there is no delete function.  They really need to fix that.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, January 8, 2012 2:15 PM

Since this has sort of morphed from the question of what we THINK it will be to what we WANT it to be ... I want so many it is hard to choose.    I want a:
1.  CB&Q - Denver Zephyr (with the unique square end obervation)
2.  C&S - Texas Zephyr (with the E5 locomotives).
3.  NP - North Coast Limited (with the dome sleeper)
4.  CRI&P - Rocky Mountain Rocket (with the unique "B" unit with a cab).
5.  MP - Colorado Eagle (with the unique E7s with round port holes).
6.  COG - Nancy Hanks II  (with the unique divided coaches and hand-me-down NW dome) 
7.  NW - Powhatan Arrow  ( with the P4 class, #581 and #582 observation cars )
8.  PRR, ACL, SAL, RF&P - Champion (rainbow of colors on the point, could do all cars for trains from 1939 through Amtrak)

But really I would like to see next is any heavy weight train pulled by a 4-8-4.  But, oh, they have discontinued the Proto Heritage locos.  sigh.    Well maybe an AT&SF California Limited that  I can pull with with my Broadway Limited Northern.

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Posted by DougNash on Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:27 AM

Thanks to all who have or will repluy to my Forum question.

I feel a few readers have hit it on the head with the  intent of my question.

This was posed as a "What will they make next" (designed, tooling and going into production) NOT as a "What I'd like to see" question.. The guide lines for their models have bneen as follows:

1) Trains pulled by E-7 or 8s and F-7s, never steam or electric.

2) They DO priimarily cater to Western trains first.

3) Since the El Cap finishes in April-May, the next train will have to be of sufficient cars-a-month  to carry them over the Summer and into the Fall-Christmas market.

My own opinion is it will be the NP North Coast Limited (Hopefully in Lowey green, not the earlier pine tree scheme).

Yes, I would also like to see an SP Sunset Limuited, SOUTHERN Rwy. Crescent, or SouthEast train (C&O, ACL, SAL) or SP lark and or Cascade (The Daylight has already gone to overkill) as well as a PRR Congressional-Senator, but again, the column was What are they putting into production.

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Posted by chutton01 on Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:13 AM

DougNash
1) Trains pulled by E-7 or 8s and F-7s, never steam or electric.



The Broadway Limited (at least Pennsylvania station to Harrisburg) - GG1

Although I understand what DougNash really meant, so that brings up the question what locomotives besides E or F units does Walthers currently offer which were used on somewhat famous name trains?

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Posted by jmbjmb on Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:34 PM

Well, since we totally destroyed your question, what the should offer, because they will never offer what we want, is the old fashion UNDEC railway.  Since I will have to repaint anyway, it would be a lot easier and cheaper if I didn't have to first undo whatever nice paint job they start with.

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Posted by Paul3 on Monday, January 16, 2012 10:30 AM

DougNash,
You forget that all the Walthers trains so far have been out of Chicago and that they alternate West-East-West-East, etc.  Since the last train is the El Capitan, my bet is on an Eastern train pulled out of Chicago by F's or E's.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, January 16, 2012 11:37 AM

Just thinking........

Since Walthers' emphasis is on name trains that serviced Chicago; I wonder if we might not see one of the streamlined 1940s-50s CB&Q Zephyrs with plated SS cars and E8s/E9 units?

Con-Cor produced the Pioneer Zephyr (I think) but that's a late 1930s version.

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Posted by hobo9941 on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:07 PM

I'm thinking they may have saturated the market with $1000 western trains, and decide to do an eastern train. Maybe City of New Orleans or the Southern Crescent. Or the Capital Limited.

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Posted by Motley on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:34 PM

When will they announce the new train? After the El Cap  is all out?

Let's see, seems to be a consensus here... so a Chicago servicing with possible an East coast RR. Hey Rich (richhotrain) are you listening? Better make some room for it in your new coach yard!!

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:53 PM
Deja vu! I recall being here at least once before. My guess then as my guess now is IC's Panama Limited . . . . . . . . . . but what do I, a loathsome Nobility-Scale modeler, know. One thing I do know for sure, they ain't gonna do it in Nobility-Scale.

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:46 PM

Motley

When will they announce the new train? After the El Cap  is all out?

Let's see, seems to be a consensus here... so a Chicago servicing with possible an East coast RR. Hey Rich (richhotrain) are you listening? Better make some room for it in your new coach yard!!

I had a few drinks with Steven Otte last night, and he blurted out that the next Walthers name train is going to be the Monon Hoosier.

Excellent.  That is the only road name missing in my Dearborn Station module.

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Posted by garr on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:55 PM

If Chicago is the common link, it is the east' turn, and considering the inventory of early Amtrak some have said is at Walthers, why not Amtrak's Floridian? At least we might see a new run of the Proto E8's in Amtrak. Who knows, they may make Antonio(and me) happy by making a loco, SDP40F, the new model highlight for the name train. 

 

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Posted by Steve McDonough on Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:47 PM

I'll go out on a limb and say IC Panama Ltd/Green Diamond/City of New Orleans with

a model of New Orleans Union depot. then SP Sunset ltd or Daylight train with a model

of San Fransisco Terminal (nice to bad it's long gone!).Neither railroad I model unfortunately!

I would agree on previous post to see any non Cal. Zephyr train with E5s!!! Twin,Zephr Rocket,

and or something with a never produced in plastic sleeper 14-4-hello Wabash, NKP,etc.

Can only wish for another midwest train from Walthers!!

 

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Posted by Steven Otte on Monday, January 23, 2012 3:53 PM

richhotrain

 

I had a few drinks with Steven Otte last night, and he blurted out that the next Walthers name train is going to be the Monon Hoosier.

If that turns out to be true, I'll be more surprised than anybody. I must have been drinking a lot, 'cause I've blacked out the entire thing. BeerIck!

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Monday, January 23, 2012 4:08 PM

Steve McDonough
I'll go out on a limb and say IC Panama Ltd/Green Diamond/City of New Orleans

I could go for an IC train.   Could even throw in an NP painted car that they borrowed during the Northwest's off season.    Did the City of New Orleans have any train specific cars?  I thought it was all  overnight coach.

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Posted by delray1967 on Friday, February 17, 2012 8:00 AM

This is more 'what I'd like to see', but I think it would be an easy to reproduce with existing models and also presents an opportunity to make a model no one ever made  This could also satisfy C&O and B&O fans with one train (the railroads combined their trains (and motive power) for some distance).

A C&O train from the late 60's, out of Detroit, maybe the George Washington, Ambassador, or Sportsman? Some trains included C&O and B&O sections (motive power too) in one train. Late 60's trains could be of mixed roadnames with RPO/baggage, even a flexivan in the consist.  I believe most models are available, just not in the correct paint.  An opportunity to make a new model exists too...the C&O Roadrailer's on the end of trains between Detroit and Chicago haven't been modeled before (as far as I know).

These trains slowly got shorter until they disappeared, so it would be easy to 'build' a prototypical pike sized passenger train  (as small as an E8 and one 52-seat coach); for those on tight budgets.  Special consists (3 E's and about a dozen cars) ran too; one was to the Univ of Michigan football games (Detroit(Ann Arbor)-Toledo?); for those that like impressively long trains.  Long trains or short trains all from the same few coach models.  These trains could provide all the operations possible, head end express/RPO(ex troop cars, REA, refrigerator, flexivan, Roadrailers) baggage (light weight or heavy weights repainted), sleepers, parlor, observation, coaches and E8's.  Many models already exist, only thing Walthers would need to do is come up with a new paint scheme for them; and what an attractive paint scheme it is!  Looks great in the mountains or in the Midwest cities/plains (IMHO) :)

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Posted by russ_q4b on Monday, February 20, 2012 1:13 PM

B&O Cincinattian!

Glad to see alot of suggestions related to the B&O.

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Posted by matthew redden on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:07 AM

Hello,

how about an eastern road such as HO PRR 1952 era budd built senator and congressional and a model of new york's pennsylvania and grand central stations. I am not sure if it is feasible to model these train stations but I have 4 broadway limited imports PRR GG-1 and some NH electrics, I  would love to see the senator produced one day in plastic.

Regards Matthew Redden

 

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