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Lets try this again (Road specific locomotives pt 2)

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 2, 2005 10:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mykroft

Heck, SP and SF have tons of stuff available in plastic compared to CN or CP.

WHere's my plastic Royal Hudson 2816? or Bullet-Nosed Betty 6060 (The IHC hack job doesn't count). The Royal Hudson in particular is one of the most famous steam locomotives in the world today.

The only CN or CP specific diesels in plastic are the Atlas C-424/425 run and the P1K RS-10's and RS-18's.

I want some M420W's, HR412's and some FP7's & FP9's, and some CN steam, in plastic. I'd even shell out for the lone M640 in CP pacman.
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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, January 3, 2005 12:33 AM
I voted for more cn/cp where's our BLI steamers the cn hudson was nice but it's price was prohibitive [xx(] it was $1000 cdn and mostly brass why did we get stiffed? some nice sound equiped 4-8-4's 4-6-4's and 2-8-0's in proper cdn attire and detail would be most welcome please BLI we don't need MTH making them or even though I want them they will stay on the shelf. cheers Rob
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Posted by ericsp on Monday, January 3, 2005 12:45 AM
I am curious as to why SP and ATSF were grouped together. I don't know if this is logical for steam locomotives, however the headlights SP had for much of its diesel years would preclude this for most diesels.

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Posted by brokemoto on Monday, January 3, 2005 1:05 AM
I voted for New York Central because I want to see P&LE steam in N. There are certain crimes that I might consider committing for a good running K-6 in N scale as well as an H-10 (do I dare dream about a vestibule cab H-10?) and an A-2a.

One 'generic' road locomotive that has been overlooked in N is a USRA heavy pacific with a larger tender. Many roads had copies of this (only the Erie had originals, they even had a class of copies as well), but with larger tenders.

N scale also needs a decent running and pulling steam switcher.
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Posted by GMO Fan on Monday, January 3, 2005 1:25 AM
GM&O, Alco Power !!!!
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Posted by twhite on Monday, January 3, 2005 1:36 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Liddiard

All in HO...
I would like to see more D&RGW specific STEAM locos built, 4-8-2s, 2-8-0s, 4-8-4s (both the 1700s and the 1800s), and even some of the Grande monsters 2-8-8-2s and finally a Grande 4-6-6-4, not the UP nock off.
I could use more D&RGW SD40T-2s as well.
In the non loco department...some 01400 series D&RGW cabooses would be nice.

Liddiard--you have just recieved my nomination for election as some sort of Roman Deity!!! Yes, I would like to see some Rio Grande steam that 1: isn't expensive brass and 2: narrow-gauge teapots. Oh, my, would I like to see Proto or BLI come out with one of those big F-81 2-10-2's, or better yet, a 1500 series 4-8-2 that--unlike the Custom Brass model that used to be available--could pull something more than just it's tender! Or maybe Spectrum could grace us with one of those beguiling, chunky little 1100 series 2-8-0's. I've got a lot of Rio Grande brass steam, and I love 'em all, but my, it would be nice to see BLI or Proto or someone come out with something nice and NOISY!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 4:53 AM
Anything Boston & Maine , part particularly a BLI QSI equiped 4-8-2 R1-d Mountain with centipede tender with red stripes and nice red and silver "Boston & Maine" speed lettering on the side.

http://home.swbell.net/alykka/public_html/B&M%204117%20small.jpg

http://home.swbell.net/alykka//public_html/B&MHOGallerypage2.html

Or a B&M 4-6-2 P4a Pacific in the same scheme:

http://home.swbell.net/alykka//public_html/Restored%20Athearn%204-6-2%20B&M%203713%20002a.jpg


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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, January 3, 2005 11:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

I am curious as to why SP and ATSF were grouped together. I don't know if this is logical for steam locomotives, however the headlights SP had for much of its diesel years would preclude this for most diesels.


Most SP steam is Baldwin built, as is ATSF. Plus the roads both exist over alot of the same territory.

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Monday, January 3, 2005 11:54 AM
Because of what I am modeling, I want a 2-6-0 in Southern Pacific. My choices seem to be IHC or MDC. That doesn't seem like a lot of leeway.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 1:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse

Because of what I am modeling, I want a 2-6-0 in Southern Pacific. My choices seem to be IHC or MDC. That doesn't seem like a lot of leeway.


If you've got a deep pocket book, Sunset is about to release a state of the art SP 2-6-0 in brass for $400.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 1:16 PM
N&W and C&O modelers of the '50s have it the best in HO.
I would personally like to see more Southern Pacific steam. A good AC-12 4-8-8-2, F5 2-10-2, or MT-4 4-8-2.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 1:19 PM
UP must have more representation in the Locomotive market, I can't find enough as is. How about more of the smaller Steam uni8ts?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 1:44 PM
I'd like to see more CB&Q passenger units - specifically an EMC E5. BLI could do a superb job of modelling one of these if built to the same quality and standard as their other E-units, and there's never been an E5 in RTR plastic. 9001A is preserved at the Illinois RR Museum so there is a surviving example to measure before designing a model, which is always helpful. Given how willing model manufacturers seem to be to tool steamers that are road-specific, I'm amazed an E5 hasn't yet appeared - they could use the drivetrain, trucks and electrics from their existing Es to keep costs down.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 2:00 PM
A few more good ones........

A Grand Trunk Western U3b 4-8-4. C'mon, these brutes were beautiful. And they were very similar to CN's 4-8-4s, so they could be produced in both road names.

A C&O 4-8-4 Greenbriar. Now here's a loco that screams to be modeled! Big, powerful, good looking, you get ther message.

A Milwuakee Road 4-8-4, such as the 261. Another beautiful and powerful machine.

Cotton Belt 4-8-4, like the 819. IMO, one of the best looking 4-8-4s.

Reading T1 4-8-4. Unique brutes built from older 2-8-0s and 2-10-0s.

Spokane Portland & Seattle 4-8-4, like the 700.

With all these 4-8-4s, everyone could have a fleet of Northerns!
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Posted by camarokid on Monday, January 3, 2005 7:01 PM
I'd like to see more of C&O Steam and maybe some diesels for my daughter's trains. She just loves the kitten.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 7:35 PM
Conrail (if I haven't posted already).
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 9:49 PM
yeah, it seems that if you like santa fe, you're stuck with a F-7 a and maybe b model. And if you like UP then your stuck with the ubiquitous gp-38 or gp-40. Kinda boring. hope to see some more access to some different models where I'm at!
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Posted by GN-Rick on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 10:25 PM
Sunset is releasing a brass SP&S 700-(also NP class A3 and A4) with sound and lights
for about $600. As pricey as plastic sound equipped steam is (however nice!) this seems to be pretty reasonable. They are due around March. Yes, I have one on order.
However, regarding other road specific locomotives, I'd like to see:
GN S1 or S2 Northern-(2584 is in Havre,Montana-an S2)
NP Z6,7 or 8 Challenger-fleet second in size only to UP of these.
will also work for SP&S.
GN O1 Mikado-they had almost 140 of them.
A Baldwin 2-6-6-2T-especially the smaller ones
It would also be nice if Life-Like would do a GN specific GP20-they already make all
the parts needed.
Well, thats my nickel.
GN-Rick
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Posted by CFournier on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 10:29 PM
How about a WP 4-6-0 .
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Posted by MidlandPacific on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 10:36 AM
I liked the way Bachmann has taken various semi-standardized steam designs (USRA and Baldwin) and manufactured them in several variants; I think this was a great "halfway" approach to satisfying the need for sales volume while still providing customers with reasonably accurate models at decent prices.

Has anyone else noticed that just about all of the high-end die-cast locomotives now on the market are in Kalmbach's "Steam Locomotive Cyclopedia?"

I would like to see some of the Common Standard steam (especially the 57" drivered 2-8-0s that ran on SP & UP); perhaps the chassis and frames could somehow be adapted to make the MC-1 2-8-8-2s and the early cab-forwards.

And, if manfacturers were willing to incorporate slightly greater variety in model boilers, cabs and fittings, a generic set of 57"-drivered chassis could probably be sold as a range of locomotives, such as Grande little 1100s and 900s.

But if I could chose a single model with no generic applicability.....it would be a Colorado Midland Class 175!

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Posted by douginut on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 3:00 PM
More Trolleys, each variaton of the PCC, and all of the rest ESPECIALLY the modern LRV's in San Diego, Sacramento, San Francisco and Salt Lake City.

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Posted by aloco on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 3:13 PM
CN and CP! Canadian versions of six axle Century units, RS versions of GM switchers, late model MLW switchers, most common types of steam locos, etc. There are some US modelers out there looking for Canadian stuff too.
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Posted by ShaunCN on Thursday, January 6, 2005 2:16 PM
whers is the CN stuff, o ya the manufactueres only make american versions of locos with ur ugly high headlights, give me some Canadain specific models at a decent price
derailment? what derailment? All reports of derailments are lies. Their are no derailments within a hundreed miles of here.
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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:55 PM
We need more heavy electris stuff Atlas if your listening the amtrack stuff was fine but letssee some big ugly Baldwin Westinghouse steeple cabs and box motors. TB
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 10:18 PM
I have to agree with mykroft. My local hobby store (here in Canada) only had one HO CN diesel loco.
Now that I've bought it, I don't know how long it will be before they get another current loco in.
I could always order off the net though.
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Posted by twhite on Thursday, January 6, 2005 11:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Hey-Ho! I've recieve the answer to my modeling prayers, and its from BLI! they have an AT&SF 2-10-2 and 2-10-4 planned. I really hope they can make a locomotive that works as it should.




Unfortunately, Aggro, I just checked with my LHS. BLI was supposed to release them this month, and they've been put off until April. Looks like my pos-Christmas present to myself is going to be a post-EASTER present to myself. Oh, well, I can always say that this year I really DID give up something for Lent!
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