Charlie wrote:There is one scheme that Athearn has omittes. Quite a few of these chair cars were painted in GS green (coach green)Charlie
There is one scheme that Athearn has omittes. Quite a few of these chair cars were painted in GS green (coach green)
Charlie
They were painted SP version of pulman green. Some were for general use while some had specific trains such as the joint UP/SP San Francisco challenger .
This train ran for only 10 years and was designed to lure depression era passengers back to train travel.
if you scroll down on the following link you can see one of esspee's 79' coaches painted green for this train.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_(passenger_train)
Charlie wrote:TWhite, the 49er was mostly Heavyweight with only the last three cars being lightweight with the first two sleepers being articulated. I will have to get the names and sleeper types from the bible of UP passenger cars/trains. Charlie
TWhite, the 49er was mostly Heavyweight with only the last three cars being lightweight with the first two sleepers being articulated. I will have to get the names and sleeper types from the bible of UP passenger cars/trains.
Actually there was more than 3 light weights but non were the 37 articulated chair cars.
take a look at this link
http://espee.railfan.net/49er.html
this would be a tall order to ask of a plastic manufacturer due to it being a very custom paint scheme, a small train that ran every 6 days and for a very short pre-war period.
Neat idea though.
Flashwave wrote: twhite wrote: Hmm--does this link mean that the Athearn cars are going to be in the Tomato Stripe instead of Daylight colors? If so, it seems as if it's going to be confusing the issue, to me. Though I will admit that during the later years of SP passenger service, between Daylight, Tomato Stripe, Overland and UP-clone paint jobs, those SP passenger trains were certainly COLORFUL, LOL! I remember living in Truckee during the summers of the late 'fifties and very early 'sixties, and whenever the COSF or OVERLAND would come through, the variety of paint schemes was kind of mind-boggling. Tom As I understand it, the Daylight cars will be in Daylight. But the Car they released now is coming out in Tomato, Two Tone, et al because it has been or was close to cars in those schemes. Other general coaches may follow this one and be painted into other SP schemes.
twhite wrote: Hmm--does this link mean that the Athearn cars are going to be in the Tomato Stripe instead of Daylight colors? If so, it seems as if it's going to be confusing the issue, to me. Though I will admit that during the later years of SP passenger service, between Daylight, Tomato Stripe, Overland and UP-clone paint jobs, those SP passenger trains were certainly COLORFUL, LOL! I remember living in Truckee during the summers of the late 'fifties and very early 'sixties, and whenever the COSF or OVERLAND would come through, the variety of paint schemes was kind of mind-boggling. Tom
Hmm--does this link mean that the Athearn cars are going to be in the Tomato Stripe instead of Daylight colors? If so, it seems as if it's going to be confusing the issue, to me. Though I will admit that during the later years of SP passenger service, between Daylight, Tomato Stripe, Overland and UP-clone paint jobs, those SP passenger trains were certainly COLORFUL, LOL!
I remember living in Truckee during the summers of the late 'fifties and very early 'sixties, and whenever the COSF or OVERLAND would come through, the variety of paint schemes was kind of mind-boggling.
Tom
As I understand it, the Daylight cars will be in Daylight. But the Car they released now is coming out in Tomato, Two Tone, et al because it has been or was close to cars in those schemes. Other general coaches may follow this one and be painted into other SP schemes.
the first coach they are releasing came originally in multiple paint schemes. In the 50's they were repainted many times and quite a few were in the "golden state" scheme a.k.a. tomatoe.
Morgan--
Thanks for the info link on the "49'er" but now I'm thoroughly confused after reading it. There's a photograph of a passenger train in John Signor's DONNER PASS that shows a distinctly two-tone gray short passenger train hauled by an AC, and a train that looks like an ALL lightweight train with articulated cars. The train is labelled as the '49'er', but the shot is a rear (observation to the front) shot, so that the forward cars are not really clear. But to these eyes, it looks all lightweight.
Like I said, unless these old eyes are failing me, now I'm THOROUGHLY confused, LOL!
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
twhite wrote:Morgan--Thanks for the info link on the "49'er" but now I'm thoroughly confused after reading it. There's a photograph of a passenger train in John Signor's DONNER PASS that shows a distinctly two-tone gray short passenger train hauled by an AC, and a train that looks like an ALL lightweight train with articulated cars. The train is labelled as the '49'er', but the shot is a rear (observation to the front) shot, so that the forward cars are not really clear. But to these eyes, it looks all lightweight. Like I said, unless these old eyes are failing me, now I'm THOROUGHLY confused, LOL!Tom
for every rule there is an exception. Also for almost every train there is a second or sometimes third section. Not sure But I beleive the description on that sight is the train as it was at conception. It chnaged a lot even in the first year. SP was good at disquising heavy weight cars . Some light wieghts even had 3 axle trucks. Some of the triple uinit diner/coffe/taverns were wrecked and rebuilt as coaches but retained the center 3 axle truck. If you look hard enough you can find almost anything on the SP. Even a UP Bullmoose running through Dunsmuir.