Brrrrrrrrrr....
Who is considered a big name can vary by who you ask.
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This is a good topic, I've learned simple answers from some of the newest modelers.
We tend to over think many things the longer we are in the hobby.
Plus some folks are not thought of as "the big names" if they are in other scale.
A "big name" usually means they spend more time and money building and sharing the hobby.
The bigger the RR the more time it takes and less time for forums.
In summer I spend less time on sites.
During winter if we are not running the rotary ,I'm scratchbuilding new models that probably won't hit the market any time soon.
A true "big name" is someone who has a big heart for the hobby.
Is it REAL? or Just 1:29 scale?
Long live Outdoor Model Railroading.
Oops - Hit post before I was finished. See correction below.
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maandg wrote: R. T. POTEET wrote:What, pray tell, is a 'big name modeler?'I judge "big names" not by the proliferation of their material but the influence and impact of thier material. Certain modelers have shared ideas that have literally shaped and molded our hobby. Many of these things we take for granted without giving credit or thought to the originator. For example, I consider the following people to have had a tremendous influence fro the following reasons....Allen McClelland - Layout beyond the basement Miniature Transportation System "Good Enough" PhilosophyDavid Barrow Linear layout design Domino constructionLinn Westcott L Girder benchworkTony Koester Prototype Freelancing Stub Ended StagingChuck Hitchcock Passenger Train OperationGeorge Sellios Detailed CraftsmanshipDave Frary Water Soluble SceneryJohn Armstrong Dean of Track PlanningThe Reid Brothers Revolutionized N Scale Malcolm Furlow Narrow Gauge impressionismBruce Chubb Operations and Electronics GuruJack Burgess Duplicating the prototypePaul Dolkos Visual tricks with track design Lorell Joiner Milestones in O ScaleJohn Pryke Urban ModelingLou Sassi Ground Goop, Trees Dean Freytag Steel Mill ModelingJim Hediger Double Deck ConstructionRand Hood Recreating Winter ScenesPelle Soeborg Scenic Detailing Desert SceneryEric Brooman Contemporary ModelingFrank EllsionI can't imagine that any model railroader could look at this list and not find at least ONE person who has influenced their thinking or at least provided some inspiration to them. Sure, several of these notables may have simply popularized pre-existing concepts, but even so, I consider that feat worthy of being called a "big name". Every one of these icons has shared his thoughts, ideas and work through articles in the hobby press. If they were simply writing to a dead planet in a vacuum, I would more easily dismiss thier efforts. But in each case, they have managed to touch, educate and inspire members of thier audience - - not ALL of their audience to be sure, but a vast majority in some aspect. This is why some of us will see a name on this list and think, "I never cared for thier stuff". And that's fine. I have no personal interest in steel mills, O scale, modern diesels, narrow gauge or winter scenes. But that doesn't minimize my appreciation of someone's work or contributions to the hobby.I guess I would define a "big name" as someone who has not only contributed to a certain forum or group, but the hobby as a whole - like them or not. Each of these innovators could have just as easily kept their ideas hidden
R. T. POTEET wrote:What, pray tell, is a 'big name modeler?'
I judge "big names" not by the proliferation of their material but the influence and impact of thier material. Certain modelers have shared ideas that have literally shaped and molded our hobby. Many of these things we take for granted without giving credit or thought to the originator. For example, I consider the following people to have had a tremendous influence fro the following reasons....
Allen McClelland - Layout beyond the basement
Miniature Transportation System
"Good Enough" Philosophy
David Barrow Linear layout design
Domino construction
Linn Westcott L Girder benchwork
Tony Koester Prototype Freelancing
Stub Ended Staging
Chuck Hitchcock Passenger Train Operation
George Sellios Detailed Craftsmanship
Dave Frary Water Soluble Scenery
John Armstrong Dean of Track Planning
The Reid Brothers Revolutionized N Scale
Malcolm Furlow Narrow Gauge impressionism
Bruce Chubb Operations and Electronics Guru
Jack Burgess Duplicating the prototype
Paul Dolkos Visual tricks with track design
Lorell Joiner Milestones in O Scale
John Pryke Urban Modeling
Lou Sassi Ground Goop, Trees
Dean Freytag Steel Mill Modeling
Jim Hediger Double Deck Construction
Rand Hood Recreating Winter Scenes
Pelle Soeborg Scenic Detailing
Desert Scenery
Eric Brooman Contemporary Modeling
Frank Ellsion
I can't imagine that any model railroader could look at this list and not find at least ONE person who has influenced their thinking or at least provided some inspiration to them. Sure, several of these notables may have simply popularized pre-existing concepts, but even so, I consider that feat worthy of being called a "big name". Every one of these icons has shared his thoughts, ideas and work through articles in the hobby press. If they were simply writing to a dead planet in a vacuum, I would more easily dismiss thier efforts. But in each case, they have managed to touch, educate and inspire members of thier audience - - not ALL of their audience to be sure, but a vast majority in some aspect. This is why some of us will see a name on this list and think, "I never cared for thier stuff". And that's fine. I have no personal interest in steel mills, O scale, modern diesels, narrow gauge or winter scenes. But that doesn't minimize my appreciation of someone's work or contributions to the hobby.
I guess I would define a "big name" as someone who has not only contributed to a certain forum or group, but the hobby as a whole - like them or not. Each of these innovators could have just as easily kept their ideas hidden
OK How the heck did John Allen not make this list???????????
Not a big enough name I guess
Have fun with your trains
I judge "big names" not by the proliferation of their material but the influence and impact of the material. Certain modelers have shared ideas that have literally shaped and molded our hobby. Many of these things we take for granted without giving credit or thought to the originator. For example, I consider the following people to have had a tremendous influence for the following reasons....
Allen McClelland: Layout Beyond the Basement, Miniature Transportation System
David Barrow: Linear Layout Design, Domino Construction
Linn Westcott: L Girder Benchwork
Tony Koester: Prototype Freelancing, Stub-ended Staging
Chuck Hitchcock: Passenger Train Operation
George Sellios: Detail Craftsmanship
Dave Frary: Water Soluble Scenery
John Armstrong: Track Design
The Reid Brothers: Revolutionized N Scale
Malcolm Furlow: Narrow Gauge Impressionism
Bruce Chubb: Operations and Electronics
Jack Burgess: Duplicating the Prototype
Paul Dolkos: Visual tricks with Track Design
Joe Fugate: Mushroom Design
John Allen: Artistry through Craftsmanship
Lorell Joiner: Milestones in O Scale
John Pryke: Urban Modeling
Frank Ellison: Operations
Lou Sassi: Ground Goop and trees
Dean Freytag: Steel Mill Modeling
Jim Hediger: Double Deck Construction
Rand Hood: Creating Winter Scenes
Pelle Soeborg: Desert Scenery and Scenic Detailing
Eric Brooman: Contemporary Modeling
I can't imagine that any model railroader could look at this list and not find at least ONE person who has influenced their thinking or at least provided some inspiration to them. Sure, several of these notables may have simply popularized pre-existing concepts, but even so, I consider that feat worthy of being called a "big name". Every one of these icons has shared his thoughts, ideas and work through articles in the hobby press. If they were simply writing to a dead planet in a vacuum, I would more easily dismiss their efforts. But in each case, they have managed to touch, educate and inspire members of their audience - - not ALL of their audience to be sure, but a vast majority in some aspect. This is why some of us will see a name on this list and think, "I never cared for his stuff". And that's fine. I have no personal interest in steel mills, O scale, modern diesels, narrow gauge or winter scenes. But that doesn't minimize my appreciation of someone's work or contributions to the hobby. Or recognizing them as a "big name".
I guess I would define a "big name" as someone who has impacted the hobby.
Not a certain forum or group alone, but the hobby as a whole - like them or not. Each of these innovators could have just as easily kept their ideas hidden and to themselves. Instead, they chose to step out and share them with others. Any notoriety or adulation that resulted from that is well deserved and worthy of respect in my opinion.
I shudder to think what the state of the art of our hobby would be today without these pioneers.
Just my
vsmith wrote: OK How the heck did John Allen not make this list???????????Not a big enough name I guess
You are absolutely correct, vsmith. As I edited above, I inadvertently hit "post" while still working on my text. Even George Sellios has always stated that John Allen is his idol and had indelible influence on his modeling. Ditto for Malcolm Furlow.
For me personally, John Allen was before my time. My first issue of Model Railroader was the September 1978 issue - well after his death. However, I am very familiar with his work and recognize him as one of the "Hall of Fame" names in the hobby. It is amazing how the ripple effects of his contributions continue to be felt.
He is the text book definition of a "big name". And deservedly so!
Marty Cozad wrote: This is a good topic... ...A true "big name" is someone who has a big heart for the hobby.
This is a good topic...
...A true "big name" is someone who has a big heart for the hobby.
I couldn't agree more. Well said, Marty. Well said.
-Crandell
DigitalGriffin wrote: SteamFreak wrote: TrainManTy wrote:Yeah, I'm actually Rod Stewart under a different name. I suppose it's time I revealed myself to you.Nothing surprises me since one forum regular turned out to be John Ratzenberger. Hey, I loved that "Made In America" seriesI didn't know he was a MRR'er
SteamFreak wrote: TrainManTy wrote:Yeah, I'm actually Rod Stewart under a different name. I suppose it's time I revealed myself to you.Nothing surprises me since one forum regular turned out to be John Ratzenberger.
TrainManTy wrote:Yeah, I'm actually Rod Stewart under a different name. I suppose it's time I revealed myself to you.
Nothing surprises me since one forum regular turned out to be John Ratzenberger.
Hey, I loved that "Made In America" series
I didn't know he was a MRR'er
Sorry about that. I was making a joke about Mr. Vollmer's avatar.
Nelson
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