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HELP! What is this thing??

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HELP! What is this thing??
Posted by Trainman440 on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:28 PM

Hi all, (this is like my 7th post regarding brass engines...I bought quite a few recently)

I found this thing inside the tender of a Sunset brass Santa fe 2-8-2 class 4000 engine. Its clearly user installed. Anyone know what it is?

NOTE: There are 3 wires going from the engine to the tender, a rail pickup, and 2 motor leads. 

Is it some PFM sound system? maybe some vintage DCC sound system?

Thanks!

Charles

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Posted by Wolf359 on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:53 PM

Those look like capacitors in there. Maybe it's some kind of "keep alive" system.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:00 PM

That is an old sound system I believe.

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The wipers on the locomotive driver are there for chuff synchronization.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 6:46 PM

I picked up a locomotive and tender that had a similar board in the tender and it was some sort of sound board.  It didn’t work and as best as I can remember there was a manufacturer name on the printed circuit board, maybe Model Tronics.  I did a bit of research but never found anything, it went by way of the county dump about 12 to 15 years ago.
 
 
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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:12 PM

That is a model tronics sound system.Modeltronics existed in the latter 1970's to early 1980's..IIRC the sound wasn't to bad for its time but,sound did not catch on like today's computerized sound.

 

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Posted by Carolina Northern on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM

That's a Modeltronics speaker, but that sure looks like PFM sound board and wiper.

 

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Posted by Trainman440 on Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:27 AM

Woah, I've never heard of Modeltronics sound systems, till now. Found a Diesel sound video on Youtube and boy, does it sound vintage!

Nonetheless, I'm gonna try to get this piece to work...just for the fun of it!

Thanks all for the replies!

Charles

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Thursday, June 20, 2019 5:43 AM

I was around this hobby for both of those systems and I agree, it looks like a PFM sound board.

Charles, if it is a PFM system, it requires a base station that sends the sound thru the rails to loco.

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, June 20, 2019 7:38 AM

 That is definitely a PFM or similar board. Note there are no active components on the board, just some diodes, capacitors, and a coil or two. This is all to keep the DC out of the speaker and the audio signals and high frequency lighting out of the motor. It will not make sound on its own, it needs the PFM sound console to feed the sounds into the rails.

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Posted by richg1998 on Saturday, June 22, 2019 4:30 PM

Yes, I remember a friend back in the late eighties had a PFM system that was quite nice but like DCC, it needed clean track with clean wheels or the sound was intermittent.

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Posted by Renegade1c on Saturday, June 22, 2019 7:56 PM

Definitely a PFM sound board and speaker. I have both Components (both speaker and board) in their original packaging in my sound supplies ( i just have never got rid of them). the speakers are top notch. The board is useless unless you have a PFM sound base station which are pretty much gone nowadays. 


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Posted by Trainman440 on Saturday, June 22, 2019 9:43 PM

Ah, I stand corrected. I heard some clips online on the PFM sound, and I gotta say it sounds pretty nice! A real shame I dont have a PFM soundboard. 

Thanks for the replies!

 

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Posted by trainnut1250 on Saturday, June 22, 2019 11:15 PM

Charles,

Save the ported speaker. They sound great with Tsunamis or other modern sound decoders.

Guy

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