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TCS Wow decoder works fine on club layout, but not on home layout. Both Digitrax

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TCS Wow decoder works fine on club layout, but not on home layout. Both Digitrax
Posted by harmony railroader on Monday, December 19, 2016 6:19 PM

I run lots of DCC equipment and it mostly works fine.  However, this one newer Atlas with Wow decoder (new one) just won't run on my home layout (12X16).  Digitrax 200 with 2 reversing loops.  Tsunami, digitrax, loksound, no problem.

Any ideas?

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, December 19, 2016 6:35 PM

Won't run as in nuthin' ...no lights no movement no horn?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 4:41 PM

harmony railroader

New engine, new decoder (installed by pro)-programmed on NCE layout, but runs fine at club layout (digitrax).  Won't run on home layout (also, digitrax with DCS200).  Small layout (12X16).  Other, older  decoders (like digitrax, loksound, soundtraxx) in older engines, work fine.  The new Wow decoder will not even display on my programming track.  I put it on and check 4 digit program and it comes up with different numbers, not even close to the programmed engine number.

 

1. Is this the same locomotive from your previous post?

I am not a Digitrax expert, but if your system is looking at the long address CV values, they will not be the 4 digit number programed on the NCE system. 

http://www.digitrax.com/support/cv/calculators/

Above is a CV calculator.  If you type in the address of the locomotive (that was originally programmed, it should spit out the correct values for CV 17 and 18. 

Are these the values that you are seeing on your 4 digit program?

Was this locomotive placed into a consist at any point at the club? 

Do you have lights or sound on the locomotive and it just isnt responding or do you get nothing when you place it on the track?

 

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Posted by harmony railroader on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:46 PM

Thanks for the response.  I'll have to check on the CV calculator a little later.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, December 23, 2016 12:43 AM

Yeah.  "Won't run" is a pretty broad fault category.

Is the locomotive part of a consist on one layout and not the other?

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, December 23, 2016 12:31 PM

The OP has started multiple threads on the same problem

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/744/p/260144/2923407.aspx#2923407

[Edit: 12/23/16 | 20:45 EST - Thread in link merged into this thead by moderator]

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Posted by CentralGulf on Friday, December 23, 2016 1:23 PM

He's a new member. I wonder if he got confused by the newbie post approval process. It can sometimes take hours or days to get a post approved.

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, December 23, 2016 5:13 PM

 I think so, because this post first appeared well below ones I had already read. It appears he first posted over the weekend, and then Monday once the posts got to be reviewed it was released. They still appear chronologically when they were posted, not when approved, and I always have the forum set to show unread posts at the top.

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, December 23, 2016 5:43 PM

 Digitrax shows the calculated address, oen does not need to use raw CV17 and CV18 values to program long addresses on Digitrax. It's the same as NCE, you want loco number 1234, you program the long address to 1234.

 A common issues between NCE and Digitrax is that NCE can use 1-127 as a long address, and with Digitrax, 1-127 is ALWAYS a short address. However, if the loco runs one one Digitrax layout, it has to have a valid address and run on any other Digitrax layout. What throttle are you using at the club vs at home? They only Digitrax throttle that would show raw CV17 and 18 values when reading an address would be an ancient DT100.

 SOmething that MAY cause an operating issue is if at home you did a Status Edit by accident and set the loco address for something other than 28 or 128 speed steps. However, even if set for 14 speeds steps, the loco would run - erractically, and the lights would flash. But if status edited for one of the other protocols that Digitrax supports like the Motorola (Marklin), the loco would not run. This is kind of hard to do by accident as you explicitly need to press the Status button when selecting the loco.

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Posted by CGW121 on Friday, December 23, 2016 7:10 PM

This sounds like an issue a guy had at our club. He took his locos over to another clubs layout(nce) and when he tried to run them on our clubs layout(Digitrax) they wouldnt run it was one of the cv values got changed. Once he put  in theold cv values it worked fine. Do notknow which cv value it was, sorry

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, December 23, 2016 7:29 PM

CV19 is if was used in a consist on the NCE layout.

Strange thing here is it works on one Digitrax layout but not another, which would seem to indicate that it is not an issue witht he differences between NCE and Digitrax, or else it wouldn;t run on either Digitrax layout.

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Posted by tstage on Friday, December 23, 2016 7:48 PM

Update: Just so everyone knows and to clear up any confusion, the OP's other thread has been rolled into this original thread.

Now back to our regularly scheduled sleuthing program...

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