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HELP! Problems with NCE Procab

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, February 4, 2013 11:14 AM

ahh, I see what you are saying, Randy.

We will have to wait to hear from the OP.

Rich

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, February 4, 2013 11:09 AM

The loco was in a consist, with CV19 set, ergo, at some point, it was added to a consist and never removed.

Could have been on another NCE layout, if the locos were used elsewhere.

If the system is setting values in CV19 all by itself, there are some really major problems, so I doubt that's what happened.

     --Randy

 

richhotrain

Randy, I don't get it.

What does forgetting to clear consists have to do with Motley's problem?

He turned on his system, and none of the consists would respond.

I don't get it.

Rich


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Posted by maxman on Monday, February 4, 2013 9:24 AM

Motley

I reset the cab address, it was 12, and I changed it to 2.

Somehow maybe they got assigned to a new cab?

Wouldn't a system reset clear this?

I cleared the cab memory.

The locos don't care what the cab address is.  The only time changing a cab address would be a problem is if you assign the same cab address to two different cabs.

In a later post you said that the problem was found to be that the locos had consist addresses.  NCE assigns a consist number to CV19.  That consist number is remembered by the loco decoder.  However, the information as to which locos belong to which consist is retained in the command station memory.  If you did a command station reset, then that information would be lost.  However, the value in CV19 would not be affected.

One thing you might want to do is change the battery in the command station.  If that battery dies, then the command station will lose its memory when the power is turned off.

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, February 4, 2013 7:11 AM

Randy, I don't get it.

What does forgetting to clear consists have to do with Motley's problem?

He turned on his system, and none of the consists would respond.

I don't get it.

Rich

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, February 4, 2013 6:49 AM

 Forgetting to clear consists when done with them?

Once a system reset is done, the system no longer has and knowledge of any consists created, but since NCE sets CV19 to create consists, the decoders still have a consist defined. And if you select the loco's standalone address, you can control functions but it won't move, it will only move with the consist address.

          --Randy

 


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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, February 4, 2013 5:05 AM

So, the question is: what caused the system to go haywire in the first place?

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Posted by Motley on Monday, February 4, 2013 2:57 AM

It was the consists. I had to clear the consist on each and every loco by setting cv 19 = 0

I'm all good now. That was weird, never had that issue before.

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Posted by Motley on Monday, February 4, 2013 2:20 AM

OK now some of my locos are working, and moving forward and reverse, but not all of them.

I reset the cab address, it was 12, and I changed it to 2.

Somehow maybe they got assigned to a new cab?

Wouldn't a system reset clear this?

I cleared the cab memory.

I'm confused....

Michael


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HELP! Problems with NCE Procab
Posted by Motley on Monday, February 4, 2013 1:25 AM

I have the Powerhouse Pro 5 amp Wireless. I've had it for about 3 years now, and its been perfect for me, until today.

When I address a loco, the startup sounds work, but the loco won't move. The horn, bell functions work when pressed. Forward or reverse just stopped working.

I tried a system reset. Nothing. I cleared all the memory, consists, etc. Nothing.

I checked all the cables, wiring, all looks good to me.

I shorted the system out with a screw driver over the rails, and it came back up normally.

I can even control the NCE accessory decoders Snap-ITs on my switches.

Any ideas before I call NCE for help?

Michael


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