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Wiring a Long Reverse Loop

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Wiring a Long Reverse Loop
Posted by RicZ on Friday, April 27, 2012 3:55 PM

There is an article on this subject on the Tony's Train Exchange Tech Topics site that has me somewhat confused.  I have three relatively long reverse loops (over 12 feet each).  Should the buss wires be "twisted" with the reverse loopm wires?  

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, April 27, 2012 4:47 PM

 Not really. And unles there is more of the "main track" beyond the reverse section, there is no reason for the main bus to extend past the point where it connects to the autoreverser. All track in the reversing section must be fed from the autoreverser's output ONLY, and since it's about 12' long, multiple feeders should be used. Extend a bus wire along the reversing section and drop feeders to it. Like the track, this section of bus shoudl be isolated fromt he main track bus. The single point of connection between the main bus and this reverse loop bus would be throught he autoreverser. Don't forget the gaps/insulated joiners in the ends of the reverse loop track as well.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:51 AM

rrinker

Like the track, this section of bus shoudl be isolated fromt he main track bus. The single point of connection between the main bus and this reverse loop bus would be throught he autoreverser. Don't forget the gaps/insulated joiners in the ends of the reverse loop track as well.        

If the reversing section of track is completely isolated by gapping the rails at both ends of the reversing section, and all feeder wires to within the reversing section are fed through the output side of the auto reversing unit, why would you need to isolate separate sections of bus wires?  As long as the feeder wires into the input side of the auto reversing unit come from the main bus wires, wouldn't that be sufficient?

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:52 AM

The bus for the reverse loop must be isolated fromt he bus for the main track. Is what I was saying.

Same as the track in the reverse loop must be isolated from the track on the main.

And with a long reversing section it's probably better to use a sub bus to feed it rather than run 12 foot long feeder wires.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:50 PM

rrinker

And with a long reversing section it's probably better to use a sub bus to feed it rather than run 12 foot long feeder wires.

                     

Yep, I realized that was your point after I wrote my reply.

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Posted by mreagant on Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:22 PM

OK.  I have a situation like this with a shorter reversing section--for discussion, let's say three feet.  If this section gets track power ONLY through the AR "output" side, should it work if the wiring is 1.) AR input from the main buss,  to 2.) AR output to the reversing section with no other feeds to the reversing section?

Also, in trying to figure out my problem, I discovered that the AR is polarity sensitive, something I did not know previously and is not so indicated in the instructions on markings on the AR.  The AR is an MRC AD520.  Does this matter, and if so, why is it not discussed in the many, many posta on the subject of auto-reversers?

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:36 PM

Yes, if the reverse section is like 3 feet, you can run a pair of wires fromt he output of the AR right to the rails.

The only thing that should matter ont he AR is not mixing up the input and output. Otherwise, polarity should not matter - because that's the whole point, ir reverses the polarity when it doesn't match. Either coming in or leaving the loop, the polarity (really it's phase with a square wave DCC signal) will be 'wrong' and the AR will correct it. That's what it does.

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