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changing engine sound
Posted by KHM60 on Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:21 AM

am modeling MEC I have many Guilford atlas engines love the turbo sound of the SD26 is it possible to change the engine sound in the U23B to the engine sound of a SD26 i have an NCE system. engines came through with factory installed sound don't care if it's not prototipical

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Posted by cacole on Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:30 AM

What sound decoder is in the engines?  Only some of the newer QSI decoders can be reprogrammed with new sounds.

Whether the sound can be changed depends on the age of the sound decoder that is in it, and how much you are willing to invest in the required software and hardware that will allow you to re-program the decoder.

The brand of DCC system you're using (NCE) has nothing to do with reprogramming a decoder because your DCC system is not used for this.

Here's a link to the Quantum Programmer information:  http://qsisolutions.com/products/techinfo/qprogrammer/q-prog-faq.html 

The Quantum Programmer costs $104.95 plus shipping.  Are you willing to invest that much just to change the sound in your locomotives?

http://qsisolutions.com/products/q-programmer.html 

There are some DCC dealers who may be able to change the sounds for you, but you'll have to send them the entire locomotive or remove the decoder(s) and do without while they are being reprogrammed. 

Ulrich Hobby Shop in Colorado is a good place to check for this service:  http://www.ulrichmodels.biz/servlet/StoreFront 

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Posted by KHM60 on Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:42 AM

from that response i take it that only 1 engine sound is in the QSI decoder and i would have to download any changes. all the engines are less than 1 year old

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Posted by cacole on Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:45 AM

KHM60

from that response i take it that only 1 engine sound is in the QSI decoder and i would have to download any changes. all the engines are less than 1 year old

Yes, only one sound scheme is in a QSI decoder -- that's why they developed the QSI Programmer..

 

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Posted by richg1998 on Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:56 AM

The QSI links should tell you what you want to know. Take your time and read through them.

What does the manual that came with the loco tell you?

You can also join a active QSI DCC forum with some experts there. It does help to belong to more than one forum.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QSIndustries/

There is a IC in the decoder that can be replaced for upgrades. I have a Atlas GP40-2 with factory QSI.

Rich

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Posted by KHM60 on Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:03 AM

silly me i thought that there was multiple bell and engine sounds in a single decoder

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Posted by cacole on Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:07 AM

Several brands of sound decoders do have multiple bell and whistle/horn sounds that can be changed by reprogramming a CV, but usually only one prime mover sound.

If you read through Tony's or Ulrich's or any other major decoder seller's data, you must specify what prime mover sound you want the decoder to contain when you order it.

In your case, you got the sounds that Atlas programmed into it.

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Posted by KHM60 on Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:16 AM

looks like i will live with what i have , my luck i'll change the sound and end up with a u23b that sounds like a nissan sentra for $100 plus, no thanks

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Posted by maxman on Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:13 PM

KHM60

looks like i will live with what i have , my luck i'll change the sound and end up with a u23b that sounds like a nissan sentra for $100 plus, no thanks

I don't know which particular loco you have, but I'd assume Atlas.  You can go to the QSISolutions website and look up the various available engine sounds, as well as bell, horn, and air compressor.  Then you can see if what you want is available.

You can also see if the loco you have has a replacement chip available from QSI.  The replacement chip is not $100.  The list price is $39.95.  (http://qsisolutions.com/products/q-chip-upgrade.html)  You should see if the replacement chip is re-programmable.  I suspect that it would be.

The local train shop that I frequent is able to program/re-program QSI chips.  If you have one of those where you live, you will not need the re-programmer as the train store should be able to program/re-program the chip for you.  That way if your U23B with the SD-24 engine sounds like a Nissan Sentra you can get it re-programmed back to the U23B sound it should have in the first place.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:42 PM

My LHS also has a programmer for QSI decoders.  So, if the decoder can be programmed (not all can) then your local shop might be able to do this for you.  It's certainly easier than taking the engine apart and replacing components.

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Posted by KHM60 on Sunday, April 24, 2011 9:00 AM

Thanks I think I'll check with my LHS about changing sound.

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Posted by mobilman44 on Sunday, April 24, 2011 9:26 AM

Gotta ask, "What's a "Guilford" ?

ENJOY  !

 

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:03 AM

Guilford Railroad, mostly operate in Maine and Vermont. Former Maine Central and B&M trackage for the most part. They have since changed their name to Pan Am Railways. Yes, like the air line. Guilford Corp purchased the airline and changed the entire company name to reflect this.

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