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What US loco is this one similarly painted like?

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What US loco is this one similarly painted like?
Posted by xdford on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 6:14 AM

Hi All,

Many Australian diesel locos were painted in similar tones to US domestic railroads and I am sure I have seen a picture similar to the South Australian 800 class I think of a terminal road on the West Coast somewhere but I cannot find it...  Anyone able to help please?  

TIA

Trevor

 

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Posted by ndbprr on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 7:16 AM

My choices would be the Chicago South Shore and South Bend around Chicago or possibly the Duluth Missabe and Iron Range and some of the Elgin Joliet and Eastern engines which were all orange.

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 8:19 AM

I would say CSS&SB is pretty close.

https://www.american-rails.com/images/x0230938273472j2k60270921808.jpg.pagespeed.ic.7WxG2XRIUp.jpg

But, it's nothing like the Missabe. The DMIR diesels wore the colors of the University of Minnesota's "Golden Gophers" - maroon body, with yellow-gold stripe.

https://www.american-rails.com/images/1867661251253g1n1m1ko7089.jpg

However DMIR did frequently host diesels borrowed from sister U.S. Steel railroad Bessemer & Lake Erie, who did use orange and black colors.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/53342/ble827-1.jpg

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:01 AM

UNION PACIFIC with the red stripe moved.

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:11 AM

This may be another of those internet "what color is the dress?" deals. On my PC, the Ozzie engine is clearly orange. Given some answers, it sounds like some people see it as yellow?

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:13 AM

wjstix
Given some answers, it sounds like some people see it as yellow?

Yes, to me it looks exactly like UP Armour Yellow.

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Posted by Colorado Ray on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 6:46 PM

Orange here.

 

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 9:12 PM

Red pigment fades.  Orange is red-yellow.  The photo looks like faded orange.

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Posted by xdford on Wednesday, August 17, 2022 12:17 AM

Hi All,  Thanks to a PM,  it turns out to be based on a cross between the Tacoma Belt ( to wit  https://www.wplives.org/ha_collection_norm_holmes_tacoma_belt.html)  and thanks to you all,  CSS&SB. 

There was a class of loco built by the Alco licensee here painted even more similarly to the Tacoma  shown here 

https://www.minnipasiding.com.au/peninsula-pioneer/diesel.html

I am wondering what might have inspired the following scheme and if it was US based

https://www.reddit.com/r/trains/comments/hlmciz/south_australian_railways_500_class_no_515_at_the/

The old Victorian Railways scheme was a Royal Blue and Gold version of Erie's  here while the Commonwealth Railways seems to have been based on ACL.  The Silverton Tramway diesels was a direct copy of Burlingtons  Chinese Vermillion and Grey scheme shown here https://www.flickr.com/photos/oz1/4798451266/ 

So if you want to know what a Burlington schemed ALco might have looked like...

Thanks Again in Anticipation

Trevor

 

 

 

 

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Posted by xdford on Thursday, August 18, 2022 7:19 AM

The B class was a great loco but I wonder if you may be disappointed as the loco was compressed to fit our tighter loading gauge here,  hence the radiators with the 4 central fans instead of over the engine top etc.  

Before the commercial locos were available, many modellers here bashed F7's or F9's together to make a B class or shortened an E8 or E9 to make a Victorian S class (the loco you have in your post built 1957-1961 - the B's were 1952 to 1954 and a few are still running) which might be more appropriate size wise for your layout. 

Could emulate the double ended Jersey Central locos!

Cheers from Australia

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, August 24, 2022 4:04 PM

Colors are close to Milwaukee Road, but the maroon stripe on those diesels was quite a bit wider.

https://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=476146

 

Stix

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