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Need help modeling a huge industry in a tiny space!

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, May 22, 2021 4:31 AM

Sure makes a beautiful scene in the early light:

 Lehigh Valley AM1 at Palmerton by Doug Lilly, on Flickr

Of course, all the vegitation for about a two-mile radius of the plant has been defoliated Whistling

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, May 22, 2021 2:00 AM

NJ Zinc001 by Bear, on Flickr

Click on image to enlarge.

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, May 21, 2021 11:30 PM

Matt,

The photo of the plant came through, but your track plan picture has Google wanting me to verify my existence.  I don't exist, so there's a problem there.  Please attend to it.

The plant is about a half mile long.  Your layout is not.  It is so big, the usual selective compression approach is ridiculous.  If you "selectively compress", you will get a toy.

If you want to include this enormous industry on your teeny tiny layout, you'll have to do something more like selective snipping.  Snip off everything that isn't railroad.  Do it again.

Then look at what is happening in those operations.  You will be doing research.  That is your job.

You should, if all goes well, find an area that you can fit on your railroad.  It WON'T be the entire operation.  It MIGHT be shipping.  It MIGHT be receiving.  It MIGHT be lotsa things.

You need to find something that works for you.

 

 

If you really want further advice, you should first explain why you care so much.  YOU need US.  Get us involved.  I, for one, have trains to play with; and I don't need to spend my time doing your research and thinking for you.

 

Ed

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Posted by mthobbies on Friday, May 21, 2021 10:15 PM

I'm working in HO scale. I don't have much space... only about 3x6 feet on the back side of my 4x8 layout. That's why I am having a hard time picking and choosing which buildings to include and how to compress them so I can maximize the space and make it as interesting as possible. I think it's okay if things are a little crammed, it just makes the model more interesting to look at.

Here is a picture of my track plan and how much space I have to work with.

The white space is the area I have available for the NJZ west plant

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, May 21, 2021 9:54 PM
Gidday Matt, couldn’t you find a larger industry to model??!!Wink
 
Some questions if I may.
1) What scale are you modelling?
2) What room are you prepared to devote to this industry?
 
For a kick off, I’d consider putting the industry on a peninsular, so even compressed, it can be accessed from both sides. Is this possible?
 
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Need help modeling a huge industry in a tiny space!
Posted by mthobbies on Friday, May 21, 2021 9:13 PM

New Jersey Zinc West Plant (zoom for larger image)

I am trying to build the New Jersey Zinc Company West Plant located in Palmerton PA. The plant is so massive that I am overwhelmed with where to start. I'm having a hard time drawing up plans for scratchbuilding for several reasons. 

1: There are so many little buildings that make up the complex plant, there is no way I would be able to model all of them. How can I selectively compress the massive plant while still retaining its essence and character? Has anyone built a model of the New Jersey Zinc West Plant? What have others done? Which buildings are important to include in a model?

2: Does anyone have plans or scale drawings of any of the New Jersey Zinc West Plant? Unfortunately, it was demolished in 1991 so finding plans and even pictures has been difficult.

Thanks, Matt

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