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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 16, 2015 1:14 PM

I had another look Randy and I think you're right, write, rite, correct! Those guys need a little more spit and polish on those tenders.

Though I never considered myself a trucker in what I consider the the true sense of the word, I have on occasion driven some heavily laden rigs down some very long, steep grades in the mountains. Watching the the air pressure gauges, keeping it in a low enough gear and maintaining a slow controllable speed and being ever so aware of where the runaway lanes are, could leave you with a real sense of relief when you made the bottom.

The guys driving this train have even more things to monitor and be aware of, as they guide this thing down this really steep grade. I think they must feel a real sense of relief after every trip. I was told by both my driving and flying instructors, that if you didn't at least have an increase in your heart rate and a little twinge in your gut when doing things that require 100% of your attention, you probably weren't giving it a true 100% of your attention.

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:04 AM

 Nah, those PRR steamers are lettered, it's just so faded that in B&W it's not standing out. You can catch it in the first video, when the camera is right next to the loco as it first starts out, you can see the "Pennsylvania" lettering scroll past on the side of the tender, but then in the longer shot it looks like there's nothing there - but it's the same loco.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:29 PM

Rich LaughLaughLaughLaugh...Made my morning. Not only did they have moving pictures for the chariot races, they also had Timex watches. Throughout the Chariot races, they took a licken and kept on ticken. For those of you wondering what the heck i am talking about, when the movie Ben Hur first came out, moviegoers noticed that some of the centurions were wearing Timex watches.

Bear, great video, I fear we may lose you to the MM (marine modelers) forums as your carfloat comes along.Laugh

Todays photo of the day comes from my house. The Daffodils are poking their heads out as Spring is really in the air.

On a more railroad related topic, I came across some Horseshoe curve stuff. I notice they ordered their Loco's "painted but not lettered" versions. Finally I see some Loco's the way I order mine.Smile, Wink & Grin

Three short ones.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:51 AM
Rich, your link to the origins of standard gauge (4’ 8 ½”) is inspired.Bow

Cheers, the Bear.

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:42 AM

BATMAN

1897!!!

Did they have moving pictures back then???? 

They did.  Here is an old movie taken in 100 B.C.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:29 AM

BATMAN
1897!!! Did they have moving pictures back then????

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:22 AM
Brent, thoroughly enjoyed that last video, interestingly that method of aligning that car float was different to the one depicted in the book “The Great Lakes Car Ferries” by George W. Hilton. I have no proof either way, but I suspect that the Detroit River Ferries were different again. I found myself as I watched this video mentally wishing that the cameraman would zoom or pan at the appropriate time but alas Sigh.....
 

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 9, 2015 12:17 PM

For those that have asked on the forum, how a carfloat is aligned with the linkspan at the dock, this video clearly shows it with some good carfloat action. I can't stop thinking about the poor guy that has the job of oiling as the cars are pushed over the hump. I think if I had that job for very long I would throw myself under the train.Laugh

If you are a details kind of person, you will see lots of trackside thingymabobs that you can add to your layout for an even better look to the pike.

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:48 AM

Bear, that Santa Fe video was perfect timing. Yesterday my kids new $1400.00 gaming computer arrived after an eight day wait and it's not working. So we can blame Santa Fe or Franky Zstripe?????Whistling (I think I saw him driving one of those trucks)

1897!!!

Did they have moving pictures back then???? Well I found some Northern Pacific film/video.

I hear the NP is "really terrific"!

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Posted by "JaBear" on Thursday, January 8, 2015 2:06 AM

BATMAN
Also, would the wheeled thing carry a person or be towed behind a speeder or something else.

Gidday Brent, a bit late and once again I run into the pixilation problem, but could that be a motorised jigger similar to the one photographed at Plum Coulee, 6th down at this interesting site.
And again looking for something completely different, I came across this which I find interesting on several levels.
Gee, I can waste some time on the computer. Sigh LaughLaugh
Cheers, the Bear.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 2:19 PM

If anyone has ever been interested in the engineering involved in putting a rail line through the mountains you will fine this long video enjoyable. I have only watched the first 30 minutes so far and have found it fascinating. It sure gives a good understanding of why things are done the way they are done and why things cost so much. If you do watch, just remember the half billion dollar price tag is in 1970s dollars.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, December 31, 2014 10:29 AM

In this installment we learn the fine art of how to economically collect firewood, track laying techniques, trackside hazards, tunnel portal construction and how to do some intricate switching.

Happy new year everyone!

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:54 PM

Pay attention, there will be a test at the conclusion.Laugh

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 29, 2014 1:19 PM

rrinker

 Looks like an open-air speeder. Or maybe a compressor, and that's an air hose, the speeder that pulled it and the crew using it hidden on the other side of the locos.

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Could it be a welder?

They are really out in the middle of nowhere at this point. It would be a long cold ride in the offseason.

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 29, 2014 1:06 PM

 

 


 

 

Gidday Brent, having studied this map and Google Maps, I’m not sure whether I most surprised by what has survived or by what hasn’t.
 
Cheers, the Bear.Smile
 

No kidding. I wonder if the railyard just over to the West of the river was ATSF or another railway? Rich???

Speaking of before and afters. Here is Vancouver, before and ruined! Don't these condo developers know that there are Steam fans still out there???Laugh

You can see the round house buried amongst the condo's.

MusicWhere have all the trestles goneMusicLong time passingMusicCryingLaugh

 

One day a few years ago, when I was on standby at work, I had a Government truck to cruise around in and so to kill some time I thought I would go see if the bridge abutments for that old trestle in the first photo were still there. Sure enough, still sitting like sentinels on the shore there they were, along with some very old track and switchstands. I felt like Indiana Jones.Laugh

It would be great to see some more "before and afters" from around the world.

 

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, December 29, 2014 12:40 PM

 Looks like an open-air speeder. Or maybe a compressor, and that's an air hose, the speeder that pulled it and the crew using it hidden on the other side of the locos.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 29, 2014 12:07 PM

Interesting video Bear. It's funny how the Army has a harder time getting their trains off the track than some of us modelers have keeping them on the track. It was also interesting to see how the loaded (weighted) cars jumped the "gap" better.

In this photo, you can see a small wheeled piece of equipment next to the track. If you enlarge the pic, you can see a small piece of equipment in front of the wheel of this thing, sitting on the ground. Their also appears to be a wire running back under the track. Is it a counter of some sort? Also, would the wheeled thing carry a person or be towed behind a speeder or something else.

Link.

http://www.okthepk.ca/dataCprSiding/articles/200901/hill00.htm

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Posted by "JaBear" on Sunday, December 28, 2014 3:45 AM
Further to the subject of shonky track work......
 

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, December 27, 2014 1:40 PM

BATMAN
.......however I went to Google Earth and got my answer.

Gidday Brent, having studied this map and Google Maps, I’m not sure whether I most surprised by what has survived or by what hasn’t.
 
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, December 27, 2014 11:26 AM

Well Rich, I was going to ask if the area was all condo's now, however I went to Google Earth and got my answer. I then used the "time shift" feature that warped me back as far as 1999 and it was gone by that point in time as well. Have you tried City or State online Archives to see if any more photo's exist?

There was usually a steam plant associated with a roundhouse and I am wondering if that black thing with the platfoms around it could be a small chimney of somesort. There is also a smaller arch of piping at the left end of the roundhouse behind the Loco.

I was also wondering about the orientation of the water tower but figured that out with Google Earth.

Bear loved the video. Getting the shops ready for production and then only building two must have increased the cost of them.  Here is a pic of 3101 as she stands todayCrying

Link.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/Locopicture.aspx?id=113728

I consider Ulrich the German Attache to the forum. I think we need answers from him on this video! I mean Germans are to Railroads what Canadians are to hockey! Ulrich what's your excuse!Laugh

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:40 AM

richhotrain
I have searched for an answer for years without finding it, so I really don't know what structure is in the photo.

Awww gee Rich, that says it all, a wise man would know better than to butt in but hey it’s the Bear we’re talking about, Sigh so here goes.
I’m not really up on my ATSF steam locomotives but when were their coal fired steam locomotives still operating from Chicago?? If say by the late 30s they were all oil fired on the Chicago Terminal and Illinois Divisions, then there would be no need for a coal tower, so is that structure a sand drying tower?

Caption: “Power for the Chiefs. Line up of new power at the Santa Fe coach yard in Chicago.”

February 2, 1938

Photo by William Ranke

 
Brent, that loading platform doesn’t look the most robust or permanent of structures; in fact getting the wagons up there looks a trick, but it would be a good talking point to have the remains poking through the long grass and self sown wheat. (looking forward to the photos)Whistling
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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, December 26, 2014 9:24 PM

BATMAN

Tough one Rich. Is it part of a conveyer system to bring in coal from a remote location? There doesn't seem to be a lot of room to be bringing in hoppers.

Brent, I have searched for an answer for years without finding it, so I really don't know what structure is in the photo.  But, I like your answer because I have always wondered if it were some sort of coaling tower.  I do know that there was no other coaling facility nearby.  Anyone else?

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, December 26, 2014 6:02 PM

Tough one Rich. Is it part of a conveyer system to bring in coal from a remote location? There doesn't seem to be a lot of room to be bringing in hoppers.

Bear, there is a video on the tube about the first efforts of trying to ship fresh produce across the continent. They were not too successful at first and had to arrange for some hastily built icing facilities along the way. They looked a lot like the grain version you showed us. I will try to find the video as it was really interesting even though it was mostly still shots they showed with narration.

Building a broken down dilapidated wagon platform like the one in the photo would make for an interesting scene just down the track from an elevator. I could see the remnants of one still being in place.

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, December 26, 2014 4:48 PM

BATMAN

 

 
richhotrain
a thread about nothing....

 

Rich.

Don't you have something about nothing to contribute?Laugh

 

I do.

Here is a photo of the ATSF servicing facility in Chicago, just south of Dearborn Station.  

In the photo, you can see the turntable, roundhouse, and sand towers. Behind the sand towers, you can see a concrete structure with some metal rigging attached to it.  What is it?   

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, December 26, 2014 4:18 PM

BATMAN
Edit: Maybe they are loading grain where an elevator has yet to be built?

Well done that man. Too easy!!! Gift
The caption read: In the early part of this century, prairie grain was loaded into boxcars at a multitude of sidings. One of the boxcars is from the Duluth, Winnipeg and Pacific Railroad, and the other two are Canadian Northern Railway cars. Photo CP Limited, coll G.A. Moore.
 
The photo and associated article can be found here, page 12.....
 
Assumption, assume can make an ass out of you and me.
 
Why I found that photo so interesting was because of the two incorrect assumptions I had made.
#1.  Grain elevators would have been common place in the Grain Belt.
#2. It would have been easier to transport grain in sacks.
Of course when I start to think it over I wonder why I made those assumptions, unlike NZ, I guess that the Canadian, and for that matter US, prairies did not have a superabundance of suitable timber growing next to where you wanted to build.
 There had to be a need for infrastructure on that scale.
The state of the roads and that most of the transport was horse drawn, meant that you would want to get your produce to the market in the quickest and easiest possible way. (Though quickest and easiest are relative terms).
I’m still unsure why sacks would not have been used.
 
This may have been posted on the forums before, but grab that coffee, put your feet up and relax...

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, December 26, 2014 3:42 PM

richhotrain
a thread about nothing....

Rich.

Don't you have something about nothing to contribute?Laugh

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, December 26, 2014 2:40 PM

doctorwayne

Brent, I must compliment you on your wide-ranging choice of subjects for this thread - the possibilities are endless.

aww, geez, Wayne, what did you go and tell him that for.    Super Angry

Personally, I find this thread totally useless, a thread about nothing....  Bang Head

....but I like it.   Yes

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, December 26, 2014 2:22 PM

How about icing the the cars where they have yet to build an ice house????? A special situation for a rare or one time cargo. But what is it???? The cargo I mean.

Edit: Maybe they are loading grain where an elevator has yet to be built?

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, December 26, 2014 2:15 PM

BATMAN
Some day the answer will just show up, most likely when hunting down information on something totally unrelated.

 Yeah, it’s like waking up at 0300 hrs with the answer to a previous asked question which I should have known the answer too in the first place. Bang Head Now I have to write it down so I can remember it in the morning.Sigh
 
Anyhow during my search I came across this photo which I found interesting. I do know the answer, but to exercise the brain if you’re so inclined, what’s going on here???

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, December 26, 2014 1:00 PM

Holy Jules Verne Bear. I guess all good ideas eventually come to fruition.

I had thought of the car in question as possibly being a track laying machine, however I also have not found anything else relating to the car. Some day the answer will just show up, most likely when hunting down information on something totally unrelated.

doctorwayne
Brent, I must compliment you on your wide-ranging choice of subjects for this thread - the possibilities are endless. Wayne

Thanks Wayne. Someone once asked Jerry Seinfeld what his new TV show was about and his reply was "it's a show about nothing".  Kinda like this thread, "it's a thread about nothing".Laugh

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