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CN loco paint schemes

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CN loco paint schemes
Posted by ratdogsoo on Saturday, May 21, 2011 1:29 PM

hi group. i am looking for info on the Canadian National locomotive paint scheme. the scheme in question  is the large diagonal black/silver side stripes, orange-ish nose. when did the CN use this theme? thanks, mike.

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Posted by wjstix on Saturday, May 21, 2011 2:44 PM

CN switched from it's traditional green-and-yellow diesel paint scheme to black white and orange with the introduction of the CN "wet noodle" in 1960. I think the stripes started at the same time, but it might not have been added until later in the 60's??

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Posted by cx500 on Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:41 AM

The diagonal black and light gray (not silver) stripes were applied to the cab units with the introduction of the noodle herald, around 1961/1962.  That lasted as long as CN owned cab units, although the rebuilt F7s had a different variation.

The application of diagonal stripes to roadswitchers began with the first safety cab units, GP38-2 and M420s, about 1973.  The CN North America scheme (with map) replaced it in 1992.  The map did not last long but I have no date for when it was discontinued.  The map, even when new, looked like peeling paint from some angles.

You can find units today that have not visited the paint shop since 1992, so CN is still using the scheme.  Some of them look really ratty of course..

John

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Posted by cv_acr on Monday, May 23, 2011 1:14 PM

John's (cx500) reply is right on the money. While the CN logo dates to 1961, the original paint scheme was all black with red ends and the logo on the side. The striped paint scheme was applied on road units during the 1970s and 1980s.

The map logo scheme (CN North America) was used from about 1993-1995 only. (There are still units out there in that scheme, but it was only applied during those years.) The scheme was modified by simply dropping the map from behind the logo. The scheme was further modified much more recently by adding the www.cn.ca website under the logo.

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Posted by cv_acr on Monday, May 23, 2011 1:19 PM

Note also, that while stripes were applied to F-units starting from the introduction of the new logo in 1961, the angle was different (30 degrees), and the stripes leaned towards the rear on both sides. The separation between the red-orange of the nose and the black of the body was at an angle matching the stripes.

In the 1970s version of the stripes, the stripes are at 45 degree angles and slant in the same direction on both sides (downwards from left to right). The separation between the red and the black was a vertical line, and the entire cab was red.

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Posted by Fastball on Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:44 PM

Mike,

Are you a fellow CN'er?  Canadian National is what I model along with some Via Rail, a few DWP's and GTW's.  All of my stuff is painted in the green/yellow livery, the noodle and the draper taper/Sgt. stripes verisons.  Nothing in the NA scheme.

-Paul   

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Posted by ratdogsoo on Sunday, May 29, 2011 3:17 PM

hi paul. well i really don't model the CN, but i do have some rolling stock and a Proto GP7 [#4820]. to set down on the track on occasion. the CN and more so, the CP have a big presence in central and northern Wisconsin. where i reside, i can watch trains and switching duties, altho i am not fond of the newer generation power units.  but like i stated, i get to do Canadian train watching, but i wish it was the good 'ol days of the SOO, CNW, and Milw. regards, michael.

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Posted by Fastball on Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:36 PM

I like the SOO, too.

-Paul

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