Hi,
Anyone know what the largest roundhouse for PM RR was in Michigan?
The 42 stall roundhouse at Wyoming Yard just west of Grand Rapids was the largest. Saginaw was the second largest.
Are you guys twins? LOL
Gotta love those avatars.
Rich
Alton Junction
Thanks ericboone,
Where did the Plymouth MI roundhouse fit in?
LOL richhotrain.
Wyoming Yard 42 Saginaw 30 New Buffalo 16 Ottawa Yard 16 Plymouth 15 St. Thomas 8 Waverly Yard 5 There were others. Traverse City and Muskegon also had roundhouses. TC's was at least 9 stalls.
Thanks much,
It's interesting that Detroit did not have a large round house.
They probably did, but I'm not sure about its size. The turntable list at the end of PM Power lists a 100 ft turntable at Detroit.
I will have to buy that book today!
Does it list the size of the Plymouth Turn Table?
Detroit was a shared terminal with the Wabash and Pennsylvania.
100 ft PM Power also has the section drawing of the stalls, the floor plan, and the track plans for the engine terminal.
All plans for Plymouth yard???
Neato, is the passenger station in there too - drawings plans that is?
Nope. None for the yard or passenger station. Pere Marquette Power concentrates on the locomotives and covers the major engine servicing facilities.
Now there was an article in MR from February 1973 that I ordered a back issue of about modeling Plymouth. It has the track diagram and pictures from that time.
What era do you plan on modeling?
mid 1940's to late 1950's.
I contacted the C & O Museum last year looking for plans for the passenger station there, they hooked me up with a gentleman in Toledo who had some info on the station I think, but I lost touch with him last year.
So I guess I will call them again tomorrow, they are closed today. Hope they have plans for the station. I already have a freight house kit.
Was the gentleman's name Mark J. Camp? Dr. Camp is an Associate Professor of Geology at the University of Toledo and he currently has a web page there. He has written several books in the Images of Rail series about railroad depots in Ohio. There are references & pictures to PM stations in a couple of them.
Jim - Preserving the history of the NKP Cloverleaf first subdivision.
No that's not him.
The last two remaining stalls of the Waverly roundhouse were torn down within the last two months or so. They hadn't had tracks running into them since the late 1980s.
-Fritz Milhaupt, Publications Editor, Pere Marquette Historical Society, Inc.http://www.pmhistsoc.org
fmilhaupt The last two remaining stalls of the Waverly roundhouse were torn down within the last two months or so. They hadn't had tracks running into them since the late 1980s.
I'm glad I took pictures a few years ago.
Does anyone know what year the Round House was built in Plymouth? Was the first and only round house built by PM, or was there an earlier round house on the site? It's my understanding that the round house was built in 1920 but was there an earlier one from one of the earlier railroads prior to the PM merger from DGR&W? Maybe PM tore down a previous round house to build the 15 stall round house?
Yes there was a smaller roundhouse that was removed. The old house is shown in dotted line format on the track map in Pere Marquette Power.
When was the smaller round house built?
Did PM build it? Or was it built by one of PM predecessors such as either the Detroit, Grand Rapids and Western Rail Road, the Detroit, Lansing and Northern Rail road, Detroit, Howell and Lansing Railroad?
If your interested in the Plymouth roundhouse I have a copy of the blue prints. The Plymouth and Saginaw roundhouse I believe were the same size.
strider If your interested in the Plymouth roundhouse I have a copy of the blue prints. The Plymouth and Saginaw roundhouse I believe were the same size.
The "modern" Saginaw roundhouse had 30 stalls while the "modern" Plymouth roundhouse had 16. I'm not sure the size of earlier roundhouses though.
Ericboone, your dead right about the number of stalls at Sag vs Ply. but I believe the roundhouses were the same, they both were built from the same blueprints. Sorry I should have been a little more specific.