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Handrail and Grabiron Offsets

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Handrail and Grabiron Offsets
Posted by Attuvian1 on Friday, February 11, 2022 11:49 PM

Did engine and car manufacturers offset handrails and grabirons from sides or ends a standard number of inches?  I'm about to detail eight Stewart F units and three or four transition era cabooses and would like to make appropriate spacers to use for their installation.

Thanks, folks.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, February 12, 2022 4:48 PM
Gidday John, regarding the F units, I’ve referenced these drawings…
 
 

 
….and I, for one, aren’t going to visit with my feeler gauge to see whether you’ve used 4 7/16” or 5”, or, for that matter, how accurately you applied those measurements.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Saturday, February 12, 2022 6:09 PM

Gidday John, regarding the F units, I’ve referenced these drawings…
 
 
 
….and I, for one, aren’t going to visit with my feeler gauge to see whether you’ve used 4 7/16” or 5”, or, for that matter, how accurately you applied those measurements.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile
 

 
And a Howdy-doo to you, Bear!
 
Thanks.  This will do nicely!
 
BTW (on an entirely different matter), what is your longitude?  I may well have been west if you once while still being in the United States!  Go figure.
 
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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, February 12, 2022 9:05 PM

Attuvian1
what is your longitude?

176.23 E

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Saturday, February 12, 2022 9:24 PM

Attuvian1
what is your longitude?

176.23 E

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Yup.  173.10 E; Attu Island, Fall of 2000.  Last of my brother's birding tours there.  Magical place.  An occasional airman's nightmare.  You would have found the old WWII Army airdrome at Alexai Point interesting.  No buildings any longer, just rusting Marston Mat and 10' wide channels excavated across the old runways to discourage intrepid avaitors in subsequent years.
 
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Posted by wrench567 on Saturday, February 12, 2022 10:03 PM

  Way back in my younger days. When I was into super detailing locos and rolling stock. I would make templates out of .025 styrene or cardboard spacers. That's .635 mm for the 63/64 of the rest of the world. For ladders I would draw lines square across and tape the ends of the template to the shell. Then I could drill the holes each side of the line. After glueing the grabs on it was simple enough to pull the shim out. The .025 looks like a good size for an HO scale hand even though the .10 brass wire is too thick for a grab iron.

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Posted by dti406 on Monday, February 14, 2022 2:46 PM

Attuvian1

 

 
 
Attuvian1
what is your longitude?

176.23 E

Smile

 

 

 
Off Topic
 
Yup.  173.10 E; Attu Island, Fall of 2000.  Last of my brother's birding tours there.  Magical place.  An occasional airman's nightmare.  You would have found the old WWII Army airdrome at Alexai Point interesting.  No buildings any longer, just rusting Marston Mat and 10' wide channels excavated across the old runways to discourage intrepid avaitors in subsequent years.
 
John
 

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Monday, February 14, 2022 3:12 PM

dti406

As we used to say, it's not the end of the world, but you can see it from there!

Rick Jesionowski

 
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Ah, yes.  An aphorism well known to all Attuvians.  It is instructive to discover how much the few folks that have been there will pay to return - if transportation (and accommodations) are available.
 
The exception to this were most of the Coasties that were assigned to the LORAN station there.  My understanding was that it was a one-year stint, and being that it drew hardship pay because it was so remote, one could generally get his choice for his next duty station.
 
If, however, you were a Coastie that loved fishing and the outdoors, it was hog heaven.  Dolly Varden trout and salmon in the streams, humongous halibut from Casco Cove and all.  But the winters could be tough.  And the williwaws . . .
 
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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, February 14, 2022 8:21 PM

There is a standard for safety appliances.

eCFR :: 49 CFR Part 231 -- Railroad SAFETY Appliance Standards

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 12:39 AM

jeffhergert

There is a standard for safety appliances.

eCFR :: 49 CFR Part 231 -- Railroad SAFETY Appliance Standards

Jeff

 
Thanks, Jeff.  This is a real jackpot.  I'm hardly a rivet-counter, but this would satisfy them nicely.
 
John

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