BRAKIE Paul,No..The 100 miles was between terminals and once at your "away" terminal you waited for your call.. There's nothing like being 14 or 15 out..That means you are stuck at least 20 hours at your "away "terminal...I have spent as high as 27 hours. I could have deadheaded back but,you don't make money doing that..
Paul,No..The 100 miles was between terminals and once at your "away" terminal you waited for your call..
There's nothing like being 14 or 15 out..That means you are stuck at least 20 hours at your "away "terminal...I have spent as high as 27 hours.
I could have deadheaded back but,you don't make money doing that..
Almost all employers pay for an employee's lodging and eating expenses for jobs far from home. Doubt this was true of railroad train crews, however. Is this still true in recent years?
Mark
markpierce BRAKIE Paul,No..The 100 miles was between terminals and once at your "away" terminal you waited for your call.. There's nothing like being 14 or 15 out..That means you are stuck at least 20 hours at your "away "terminal...I have spent as high as 27 hours. I could have deadheaded back but,you don't make money doing that.. Almost all employers pay for an employee's lodging and eating expenses for jobs far from home. Doubt this was true of railroad train crews, however. Is this still true in recent years? Mark
They put us up at the Railroad YMCA and paid for one meal..
I believe today its a hotel and one meal?
Larry
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Back to the 100 mi. rule...not sure if someone mentioned this, but before mechanical lubricators came along, steam engines couldn't go very far before needing to be stopped and lubricated. Maybe 15-20 miles or so IIRC. So adding that in with other work being done along the trip, the 100 mi. rule when introduced probably was pretty realistic.
wjstixBack to the 100 mi. rule...not sure if someone mentioned this, but before mechanical lubricators came along, steam engines couldn't go very far before needing to be stopped and lubricated. Maybe 15-20 miles or so IIRC. So adding that in with other work being done along the trip, the 100 mi. rule when introduced probably was pretty realistic.
The "100 mile rule' only had to do with how much the crew was paid. There was no restriction on how far the crew actually worked. Terminals ranged between 75 and 150 miles apart. It would be extremely rare to find terminals 100 miles apart. The terminals were set well before the "100 mile rule" was established.
Terminals weren't 100 miles apart because that's what they paid the crews, they 100 miles was about the average of how far the terminals were apart (and its a nice round number.)
The "100 mile rule" didn't drive the location of the terminals, the location of the terminals drove the distance in the 100 mile rule.
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wjstix Back to the 100 mi. rule...not sure if someone mentioned this, but before mechanical lubricators came along, steam engines couldn't go very far before needing to be stopped and lubricated. Maybe 15-20 miles or so IIRC. So adding that in with other work being done along the trip, the 100 mi. rule when introduced probably was pretty realistic.
The basic day (when it was 100 miles) usually read in the agreements something like 100 miles or 8 hours equals a basic day. (Again as mentioned previously, this isn't a maximum. You went to work and if you only worked 7 hours or 95 miles, you were paid the full 100mi/8hrs.) That 100 miles equals a train doing 12 1/2 mph for 8 hours. I've read that one of labor's (all groups not just RR) biggest goals was the 8 hour day. I wonder when the agreement was first made if that 12 1/2mph wasn't close to the average over the road train speeds including delays for work, lubrication, fueling and water etc. Of course some would do better and some would do worse, but most would be in that range.
Maybe if the average train speed had been slower or faster, that original distance for 8 hours would've been more or less than 100 miles. (The current 130 mile basic day equals 16.25mph for 8 hours)
As to lodging and meals today here's how it is I work. The railroad pays for the motel room. For meals we get a $6.00 allowance for the first 12 hours away from home. If you're there longer than 12 hours, you get another $6.00. So if you're off duty away from home 11 hrs and 59 mins, you get $6.00. If you're there for 35 hours (done this a couple of times) you get $12.00. Others may have different contract provisions.
Jeff
PS There was a great article in Trains some time back about how crews are called and how pay is figured etc.
Hi, don't know much about the rule, but my experience on the California Zephyr was the first crew change out of Chicago was Ottumwa in Iowa, a distance of 279 miles. The crew out of Denver handed over at Grand Junction, Colorado a distance of 273 miles.
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Ah,That's the way of it today..Sounds like a better deal.