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4x12 n scale layout thoughts

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4x12 n scale layout thoughts
Posted by garthor on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 4:17 PM

Ok here is my first try at using rts software to scale down a layout. The layout is the berkshire valley line in ho. The following layout is in n scale using 13.75 radius for the outer track and 12.5 for the inner, all atlas code 55 rail. The turnouts are also atlas code 55 #7's. The benchwork is 4x12 and will be on casters for moving it around and such. Also the yard and engine servicing areas are not complete ,but you get the general idea. Please post any thoughts or ideas that you may have.

 

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Posted by garthor on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 4:34 PM
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Posted by Texas Zepher on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 8:05 PM

 garthor wrote:
The layout is the berkshire valley line in ho. ... in n scale ... The benchwork is 4x12
Umm that is only 4x10!    See the thread on the general forum about the Berkshire Valley.  There are several good comments over there. 

In general:
1. with that much space you can make a real classification yard not just a bunch of parallel tracks.  See the Midland Valley yard #HO10029 or the "Big Panhandle" track plan #19 in Custom Line Layouts for HO Scale Railroads for some ideas.
2. with that much space you can probably make a much more interesting main line than just a figure 8.
3. there aren't enough crossovers on the main line.
4. Is there a reason you want the yard lead hidden?

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Posted by garthor on Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:29 AM
Sorry about the mis-measurement, the table size should be 4x10. I have changed this layout enough times I'm going cross eyed. I think I'm going to go back to the drawjing board again and start over.
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Posted by garthor on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:25 PM
Ok starting from scratch, thank you for all your comments. I am going to use bench work that i already have which is 3x8 feet, could be 4x10 but thats alot for a first layout. Thinking out and back.
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Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:44 PM

There is no run around in the yard.  You need at least one pair of tracks with a switch on both ends and enough room for an engine beyond the far switch.

What does your railroad do?  Does it go any place?  Why do you switch cars? in the yard?  where do they go?  What is the theme of your railroad?  What industries does it serve?

Think about those questions.  When you get the answers, look at your track plan.  does the track plan let you do those things?

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 8:40 PM

I have pretty much the same questions as Dave. I wonder what the purpose is of your railroad.

Try reading my beginner's guide clickible from may signature.

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Posted by Steve_F on Thursday, September 6, 2007 2:02 AM

Just adding my 2c to the above, I think you can read the whys & how's etc of the above links (which are very good) until your cross-eyed but until you try operating it may not make as much sense as it could

So with it being your first layout how about copying an existing plan? I was thinking of an HO plan that you could use in N scale which would leave it less cluttered, broader curves and room to add more industries, sidings etc. there is one I like that has been previously posted here.  http://www.nmra.org/beginner/ex_plus.html

 

Operating a layout like this would help give you an idea what is needed to make it operational and what you will want out of a future layout.

 

Another option would be to find a local club or operating group, operating a layout will show what you want and need in the design.

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Posted by Mailman56701 on Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:10 PM
 Steve_F wrote:

Just adding my 2c to the above, I think you can read the whys & how's etc of the above links (which are very good) until your cross-eyed but until you try operating it may not make as much sense as it could

So with it being your first layout how about copying an existing plan? I was thinking of an HO plan that you could use in N scale which would leave it less cluttered, broader curves and room to add more industries, sidings etc. there is one I like that has been previously posted here.  http://www.nmra.org/beginner/ex_plus.html

 

Operating a layout like this would help give you an idea what is needed to make it operational and what you will want out of a future layout.

 

Another option would be to find a local club or operating group, operating a layout will show what you want and need in the design.

  I seem to recall that NMRA layout being fubared, (HO) especially if one is going to use sectional track.

  The shape depicted wasn't possible, i.e.

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Posted by garthor on Sunday, September 9, 2007 3:30 PM
Ok posted as another blog, rts trackplan, starting out from scratch....

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