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Anonymous
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Weathering wood
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Anonymous
on Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:25 AM
How do you weather new bass wood to look like old sun bleached never been painted oak? I see it a lot in narrow gauge lumber layouts but have never read or figured out how to get that silver tan gray color. FRED
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Anonymous
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Weathering wood
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:25 AM
How do you weather new bass wood to look like old sun bleached never been painted oak? I see it a lot in narrow gauge lumber layouts but have never read or figured out how to get that silver tan gray color. FRED
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
on Friday, September 12, 2003 2:04 PM
Fred,
If you leave it outdoors in the sun and weather for a couple years nature will do it for you [:)]
Dave
Avondale, AZ
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
on Friday, September 12, 2003 2:04 PM
Fred,
If you leave it outdoors in the sun and weather for a couple years nature will do it for you [:)]
Dave
Avondale, AZ
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Friday, September 12, 2003 4:36 PM
Try experimenting with a wash made from few drops of India ink in alcohol - vary the ink/alcohol ratio.
(Or you could just try using DCC, since it seems to eliminate all the world's problems.) [:D][:D]
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Friday, September 12, 2003 4:36 PM
Try experimenting with a wash made from few drops of India ink in alcohol - vary the ink/alcohol ratio.
(Or you could just try using DCC, since it seems to eliminate all the world's problems.) [:D][:D]
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
on Friday, September 12, 2003 11:45 PM
Alcohol and shoe dye is a classic. Quick and easy. Black shoe dye dissolved in alcohol. I have a dedicated "dye jar"
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Friday, September 12, 2003 11:45 PM
Alcohol and shoe dye is a classic. Quick and easy. Black shoe dye dissolved in alcohol. I have a dedicated "dye jar"
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
on Monday, September 15, 2003 8:58 AM
Both of these methods make the wood darker. I want sun bleached.
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Monday, September 15, 2003 8:58 AM
Both of these methods make the wood darker. I want sun bleached.
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:23 PM
Hi Fred,
You described the colour you want as "that silver tan gray color". I have found that basswood strips retain some of their tan colour if you use a really dilute alcohol/ink mix. Like a babyfood jar full of alcohol to one or two drops of India ink. No more. Thatway the original colour of the basswood (tan) shows through the beginnings of weathering (silver gray).
If that doesn't work, you can try experimenting with bleach, dry brushing with tan, sand and off-white, or other approaches.
Let us know how it works out.
Andrew
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:23 PM
Hi Fred,
You described the colour you want as "that silver tan gray color". I have found that basswood strips retain some of their tan colour if you use a really dilute alcohol/ink mix. Like a babyfood jar full of alcohol to one or two drops of India ink. No more. Thatway the original colour of the basswood (tan) shows through the beginnings of weathering (silver gray).
If that doesn't work, you can try experimenting with bleach, dry brushing with tan, sand and off-white, or other approaches.
Let us know how it works out.
Andrew
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:42 PM
I already tried brushing on bleach, I didn't see any color change. I have tried acrylic washes. I'll try india ink again at your formula. The one I used was lots stronger. I am trying to weather some scratch built and kit cars I purchased to look really old. I think I messed up at first as I used white glue to build them so I can't soak them or leave them outside. FRED
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:42 PM
I already tried brushing on bleach, I didn't see any color change. I have tried acrylic washes. I'll try india ink again at your formula. The one I used was lots stronger. I am trying to weather some scratch built and kit cars I purchased to look really old. I think I messed up at first as I used white glue to build them so I can't soak them or leave them outside. FRED
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:01 PM
Try drybrushing as you would with when weathering a plastic or a brass model.
Consider the colour of the wood as if it was just painted plastic.
Jon
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:01 PM
Try drybrushing as you would with when weathering a plastic or a brass model.
Consider the colour of the wood as if it was just painted plastic.
Jon
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:39 AM
You have to be careful when building with wood and white glue that you don't get any of the glue on the surfaces to be weathered. I recommend weathering the wood before you build.
I know, I know, you want to get on and build it, but after several wood structures I came to the conclusion (that everyone had been telling me) that weather first, then build, then touch up.
You might want to try DullCoat directly on the wood, followed by a straight alcohol wash. This will "cloud" the DullCoat. It can be an effective way to make paint look faded, so you might want to give it a shot.
I really enjoy working with wood kits and scratchbuilding. I usually use the wood glue that is waterproof, or gel superglue to avoid joints coming undone when putting on finishing coat of weathering.
I don't think I have seen the colour you describe - most of the barns around here are made of pine, which goes a silvery-grey colour, even in full sun.
Andrew
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:39 AM
You have to be careful when building with wood and white glue that you don't get any of the glue on the surfaces to be weathered. I recommend weathering the wood before you build.
I know, I know, you want to get on and build it, but after several wood structures I came to the conclusion (that everyone had been telling me) that weather first, then build, then touch up.
You might want to try DullCoat directly on the wood, followed by a straight alcohol wash. This will "cloud" the DullCoat. It can be an effective way to make paint look faded, so you might want to give it a shot.
I really enjoy working with wood kits and scratchbuilding. I usually use the wood glue that is waterproof, or gel superglue to avoid joints coming undone when putting on finishing coat of weathering.
I don't think I have seen the colour you describe - most of the barns around here are made of pine, which goes a silvery-grey colour, even in full sun.
Andrew
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:13 PM
Fred,
Two more ways: 1. Try Olympic or Sherwin Williams "Driftwood" Stain. Both are good but produce different color variations. Test first. Thin out and work up to full color. 2. Try acrylic paints from WalMart, etc. Pick a nice grey color and thin it out with water. Test it until you get the mix you like. After staining, I use "Antique White" acrylic highlights drybrushed on. Both of these are cheapie solutions to the end result.
Rick[:)]
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:13 PM
Fred,
Two more ways: 1. Try Olympic or Sherwin Williams "Driftwood" Stain. Both are good but produce different color variations. Test first. Thin out and work up to full color. 2. Try acrylic paints from WalMart, etc. Pick a nice grey color and thin it out with water. Test it until you get the mix you like. After staining, I use "Antique White" acrylic highlights drybrushed on. Both of these are cheapie solutions to the end result.
Rick[:)]
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ndbprr
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Posted by
ndbprr
on Friday, September 19, 2003 3:14 PM
Years ago Floquil made driftwood stain also. I don't know if they still do or not. You could aslo try somewhere like Home Depot or a paint store for stain. A quart should last for the rest of your life.
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ndbprr
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Posted by
ndbprr
on Friday, September 19, 2003 3:14 PM
Years ago Floquil made driftwood stain also. I don't know if they still do or not. You could aslo try somewhere like Home Depot or a paint store for stain. A quart should last for the rest of your life.
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Friday, September 19, 2003 5:04 PM
I intend on living a long time! I have been looking for driftwood stain but the locals don't stock, so tomorrow its roadtrip to Springfield Mo to lowes, home depot, and others? I think that's what I want, so... thanks for the help. I have used many acrylics and have been less than happy with any of the colors I get on this project. I can't get the color and variations I want with acrylics.
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Friday, September 19, 2003 5:04 PM
I intend on living a long time! I have been looking for driftwood stain but the locals don't stock, so tomorrow its roadtrip to Springfield Mo to lowes, home depot, and others? I think that's what I want, so... thanks for the help. I have used many acrylics and have been less than happy with any of the colors I get on this project. I can't get the color and variations I want with acrylics.
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:22 PM
Fred,
There is one more way to attain your Driftwood look. There was a formula given on one of the Yahoo train groups a few weeks ago that allows you to mix Olympic stains and come out with an exact match for the Floquil. Floquil is out of business as far as the stains go. I'll see if i can find the formula and post it for you. Also, there is a company called Roundbell that makes a driftwood stain that is very similar to the Floquil, however, I have not tried it and the word is that there is much less pigment in these products. I'll keep trying. You may want to try joining the Fine Scale Miniatures list on Yahoo, as that is where the knowledge is in kit construction.
Their address is:
Roundbell Hobby Products
1414 North Horseshoe Dr.
Sugar Land Texas 77478
713-667-7762....this is the # I reached them at, but their receipt says:
713-662-0809
Good Luck
Rick Ludlow
Shayon30
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Anonymous
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April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:22 PM
Fred,
There is one more way to attain your Driftwood look. There was a formula given on one of the Yahoo train groups a few weeks ago that allows you to mix Olympic stains and come out with an exact match for the Floquil. Floquil is out of business as far as the stains go. I'll see if i can find the formula and post it for you. Also, there is a company called Roundbell that makes a driftwood stain that is very similar to the Floquil, however, I have not tried it and the word is that there is much less pigment in these products. I'll keep trying. You may want to try joining the Fine Scale Miniatures list on Yahoo, as that is where the knowledge is in kit construction.
Their address is:
Roundbell Hobby Products
1414 North Horseshoe Dr.
Sugar Land Texas 77478
713-667-7762....this is the # I reached them at, but their receipt says:
713-662-0809
Good Luck
Rick Ludlow
Shayon30
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rkdave
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January 2002
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Posted by
rkdave
on Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:31 PM
I've had good luck with a product from A-West called "weather-it." It can be diluted with distilled water to give the level of weathering desired.
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rkdave
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January 2002
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Posted by
rkdave
on Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:31 PM
I've had good luck with a product from A-West called "weather-it." It can be diluted with distilled water to give the level of weathering desired.
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dehusman
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September 2003
From: Omaha, NE
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Posted by
dehusman
on Monday, September 22, 2003 4:27 PM
I believe another cheap stain is steel wool dissolved in vineagar.
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
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dehusman
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From: Omaha, NE
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Posted by
dehusman
on Monday, September 22, 2003 4:27 PM
I believe another cheap stain is steel wool dissolved in vineagar.
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
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