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AltonFan
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April 2003
From: US
1,522 posts
Posted by
AltonFan
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:50 AM
When I was planning to build a layout, I decided to set the layout height so that the trains would be eye level when I was seated. (For me this came to about 48".)
Dan
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MAbruce
Member since
November 2001
From: US
1,720 posts
Posted by
MAbruce
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:36 AM
Keep in mind that the higher you make it, the narrower you will likely need to make the layout because you won't be able to reach as far in (unless you like balancing on chairs or step stools).
It's all a matter of how tall you are vs. how deep your layout is, and how much of it will be up against a wall. I have an “L” shaped layout that is in a corner of my basement, and set the height at 42” (I’m 6’2”). Even then, there is a smaller section of my layout that is 4’ wide which makes reaching to the back difficult.
But make it too short, and you will be making frequent trips to the Chiropractor! [:D][;)]
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MAbruce
Member since
November 2001
From: US
1,720 posts
Posted by
MAbruce
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:36 AM
Keep in mind that the higher you make it, the narrower you will likely need to make the layout because you won't be able to reach as far in (unless you like balancing on chairs or step stools).
It's all a matter of how tall you are vs. how deep your layout is, and how much of it will be up against a wall. I have an “L” shaped layout that is in a corner of my basement, and set the height at 42” (I’m 6’2”). Even then, there is a smaller section of my layout that is 4’ wide which makes reaching to the back difficult.
But make it too short, and you will be making frequent trips to the Chiropractor! [:D][;)]
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IRONROOSTER
Member since
June 2003
From: Culpeper, Va
8,204 posts
Posted by
IRONROOSTER
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:16 AM
I would build it short enough for your boys. If possible, use a modular construction so that you can raise it later if you want. That way your sons will have full access to the layout, which is important in feeling like an equal participant with Dad. These are golden years with your boys, enjoy them.
Paul
If you're having fun, you're doing it the right way.
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IRONROOSTER
Member since
June 2003
From: Culpeper, Va
8,204 posts
Posted by
IRONROOSTER
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:16 AM
I would build it short enough for your boys. If possible, use a modular construction so that you can raise it later if you want. That way your sons will have full access to the layout, which is important in feeling like an equal participant with Dad. These are golden years with your boys, enjoy them.
Paul
If you're having fun, you're doing it the right way.
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Puckdropper
Member since
December 2002
From: US
725 posts
Posted by
Puckdropper
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:04 AM
My layout is at 48". It's a bit much to do some detailing on the *spoken erriely* Far Side of the Layout!
A simple stand fixes the problem. (Btw, I'm abt 5'6") It looks much better than my old ones at 32" and below.
The advantage to the 48" is you can cut 8' dimensional lumber in half and have no waste.
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Puckdropper
Member since
December 2002
From: US
725 posts
Posted by
Puckdropper
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:04 AM
My layout is at 48". It's a bit much to do some detailing on the *spoken erriely* Far Side of the Layout!
A simple stand fixes the problem. (Btw, I'm abt 5'6") It looks much better than my old ones at 32" and below.
The advantage to the 48" is you can cut 8' dimensional lumber in half and have no waste.
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OhioRailroader
Member since
July 2002
From: Centerville, Ohio
90 posts
Posted by
OhioRailroader
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:42 AM
I would agreee that keeping it at a "normal" height would be a good idea. If it were me, I would build it to a rail height of 40-44". For me, that's always been a comfortable height. My first couple layouts when I was 10-12 were at 32"-36" and those got to be too short real fast lol. The higher layout is a lot better on my eyes and back compared to the lower ones, and I'm still relativly young lol.
The platform thought would be a good idea. And to expand on that, you can put the spring loaded casters on the bottom. So while the kids aren't on it, you can move it freely under the table and out of the way, but when they are on it the casters either have sprung brakes or the platform bottom drops to touch the floor and acts as a brake. And I"m sure you could find a lighter material than plain lumber so it would make it that much easier to move. Maybe use the recycled plastic & wood decking. It's pretty lightweight and very sturdy and strong. Just a thought.
John McManaman Ohio Valley Free-mo Website - http://www.trainweb.org/ohiovalleyfreemo Ohio Valley Free-mo Forum - http://ovfm.ipbfree.com
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OhioRailroader
Member since
July 2002
From: Centerville, Ohio
90 posts
Posted by
OhioRailroader
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:42 AM
I would agreee that keeping it at a "normal" height would be a good idea. If it were me, I would build it to a rail height of 40-44". For me, that's always been a comfortable height. My first couple layouts when I was 10-12 were at 32"-36" and those got to be too short real fast lol. The higher layout is a lot better on my eyes and back compared to the lower ones, and I'm still relativly young lol.
The platform thought would be a good idea. And to expand on that, you can put the spring loaded casters on the bottom. So while the kids aren't on it, you can move it freely under the table and out of the way, but when they are on it the casters either have sprung brakes or the platform bottom drops to touch the floor and acts as a brake. And I"m sure you could find a lighter material than plain lumber so it would make it that much easier to move. Maybe use the recycled plastic & wood decking. It's pretty lightweight and very sturdy and strong. Just a thought.
John McManaman Ohio Valley Free-mo Website - http://www.trainweb.org/ohiovalleyfreemo Ohio Valley Free-mo Forum - http://ovfm.ipbfree.com
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:00 AM
I would encourage you to keep the layout high, such as between your waist and elbow height. It will be more enjoyable for you to work on and watch; the closer the trains get to your eye level, the greater the realism and sense of being in the scene, not looking down from above. Your kids will get this feeling each time they gander at it, because for them it will be right at eyeball height.
You don't have kids that tall yet, you say? Well, you will someday, for sure. In the meanwhile, I suggest you accomodate them with a mobile viewing platform, built out of 2x6 lumber and plywood, that they stand on in order to view the trains. This gives you a layer of security and control, as it restricts where they can be and what they can touch or reach. When your back is turned or you're not around, they won't be able to drag your prized locomotive around unpowered (ruining traction tires or just getting wheels dirty), or plug tennis balls into your tunnels, or whatever else it is that young boys might try to do to a layout. As they grow, they won't need the platform, and they will have learned to respect the layout because of it; once they are at basketball player enormity, if they are still into trains, they'll want the layout up high as well.
An option you might consider is doing a two-level layout, with the "kids" trains on an accessible lower level, where everything is more abuse-proof, perhaps with trains of a different scale even. I don't know what your carpentry skills or ambitions might be, but this would certainly take a little bit of planning to pull off well.
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:00 AM
I would encourage you to keep the layout high, such as between your waist and elbow height. It will be more enjoyable for you to work on and watch; the closer the trains get to your eye level, the greater the realism and sense of being in the scene, not looking down from above. Your kids will get this feeling each time they gander at it, because for them it will be right at eyeball height.
You don't have kids that tall yet, you say? Well, you will someday, for sure. In the meanwhile, I suggest you accomodate them with a mobile viewing platform, built out of 2x6 lumber and plywood, that they stand on in order to view the trains. This gives you a layer of security and control, as it restricts where they can be and what they can touch or reach. When your back is turned or you're not around, they won't be able to drag your prized locomotive around unpowered (ruining traction tires or just getting wheels dirty), or plug tennis balls into your tunnels, or whatever else it is that young boys might try to do to a layout. As they grow, they won't need the platform, and they will have learned to respect the layout because of it; once they are at basketball player enormity, if they are still into trains, they'll want the layout up high as well.
An option you might consider is doing a two-level layout, with the "kids" trains on an accessible lower level, where everything is more abuse-proof, perhaps with trains of a different scale even. I don't know what your carpentry skills or ambitions might be, but this would certainly take a little bit of planning to pull off well.
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Anonymous
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April 2003
305,205 posts
Ideal table height
Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 11:26 PM
I am in the planning process on my first layout since childhood. My layout is going to be about 4x14. I have 3 and 5 year old sons that are excited about the train. It seems from everything that I have seen that the average table height is 3 1/2 feet off the ground or so and I am just wondering if there is really a need for it to be so high? It would certainly be easier for my boys to enjoy if it were more at there level but there must be some reasons for the traditional height. Any feedback on this topic would be appreciated.
Joe Goeke
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Anonymous
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April 2003
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Ideal table height
Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 11:26 PM
I am in the planning process on my first layout since childhood. My layout is going to be about 4x14. I have 3 and 5 year old sons that are excited about the train. It seems from everything that I have seen that the average table height is 3 1/2 feet off the ground or so and I am just wondering if there is really a need for it to be so high? It would certainly be easier for my boys to enjoy if it were more at there level but there must be some reasons for the traditional height. Any feedback on this topic would be appreciated.
Joe Goeke
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