Where is extruded foam in California?

[Anonymous]

here is something for you.... go to www.owenscorning.com and then do a store locator search.... from there you select the product you are looking for and then you input your zip code.... I did this and found stores in my area of california that carry foamular which is the product you are looking for.

[twhite]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mcouvillion

I've seen stickers on circuit boards that claim the something is "known to the State of California to cause cancer". I find this kind of odd, in that the Federal Government does not "know" the same things California claims to "know" to cause cancer, as many are still under investigation or inconclusive. There is a lot of law written without benefit of facts or science and California leads the pack. They led the charge to ban MTBE (107 octane oxygenated additive) from gasoline because they found trace amounts in their water supply. It didn't matter that the real problem was leaking fuel storage tanks underground that should have been replaced. They led the effort for oxygenates in fuels 30 years ago, and now want to ban what they more or less forced everyone to do! I bet those maroons were the same ones who wanted to ban chlorine 10 years ago.

Oops, I got on my soapbox. Sorry.

Mark C.

Mark--be my guest on the soapbox--PLEASE!! I'm a 5th-generation Californian, my forebearers arrived here from Germany, Austria and Cornwall in 1850. In my 65 years of living here, I've seen the state go off the deep end. A lot of other people tell me that California is where the fruits and the nuts come from. Wrong--it's where they're all moving TO! The extruded Corningware foam is dangerous? How in heck do those 'experts' we've got running around explain all the little 'beads' in the regular foam being safe? I just don't know (he said, scratching his head).
Tom [banghead][banghead]

[mcouvillion]

I've seen stickers on circuit boards that claim the something is "known to the State of California to cause cancer". I find this kind of odd, in that the Federal Government does not "know" the same things California claims to "know" to cause cancer, as many are still under investigation or inconclusive. There is a lot of law written without benefit of facts or science and California leads the pack. They led the charge to ban MTBE (107 octane oxygenated additive) from gasoline because they found trace amounts in their water supply. It didn't matter that the real problem was leaking fuel storage tanks underground that should have been replaced. They led the effort for oxygenates in fuels 30 years ago, and now want to ban what they more or less forced everyone to do! I bet those maroons were the same ones who wanted to ban chlorine 10 years ago.

Oops, I got on my soapbox. Sorry.

Mark C.

[twhite]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CharlieBedard

I posted something similar on another thread, but I'll repeat it here 'cause this title is more likely to attract folks with the same issue.

It appears that the extruded blue/pink foam is not available in California. There is something called Expanded Styrofoam (as opposed to Extruded Styrofoam) under the brand name of Insulfoam. This stuff comes with a plastic covering on one surface and is available in 1/2", 1" and 2" thicknesses. I've visited the Insulfoam Web site to see how the stuff is made and it does begin life as plastic pellets but is less coarse than the "hobby" foam I've seen at Michaels'.

I am wondering if anyone has tried to work with it and what they might be able to share with us poor deproved Californians :-)!

Charlie Bedard

Charlie--I'm in the midst of working with Insulfoam right now, since Home Depot stopped carrying the extruded foam, which I was using as a layout base. I just started an extension to un-hide a hidden return loop, and the 2" Insulfoam is all I can get. So far, it's okay (not great, but okay), though I've had to put a LOT more bracing in the benchwork to support it. The plastic coating helps it from flying all over the place, but unfortunately I'm going to have to cut the coating underneath the roadbed, as it doesn't look too glue-friendly. I've got a horrible feeling that I'm going to have beads all over the place. I have no idea why the extruded foam is banned in California, probably some stupid law about polluting the place, (like the wall-to-wall traffic on Intersate 5 ISN'T?)[:(!][:(!] or it's dangerous for California condors or something. It should be fun once I start cutting out a riverbed--I think I'll have instant talus from all of those nasty looking beads, LOL! I'll keep you guys posted.
Tom [xx(]

[Anonymous]

Insulfoam is no good.... I have worked with the stuff at my last job and it's just as bad as the other beaded foams.

[Anonymous]

http://owenscorning.com/around/locator/index.asp
this link will go to owens corning website and it will tell you where you can but the onk foam in your area

[DSchmitt]

I bought 2 x 8 sheets 1" thick pink foam at Home Depot in Yuba City less than a year ago.

The is or was a insulation company that stocked 4x8 sheets of blue foam in a number of thicknesses in the south area of Sacramento. I've only been there twice and the last time was about 6 years ago. I don't remember the name of the company, but ALL-Temp at 8300 Gerber Road appears to be about where I remember going..

[bcammack]

Go to Google, pick "Local Google". Put "category: Insulation Materials Cold & Heat" for "What" and Sacramento, CA for "Where" Maybe that'll give you some luck.

[prompter]

I just called a Home Depot Supply store in Milpitas, CA (San Jose area). They carry Owens Corning FOAMULAR® rigid foam (pink). They said (I won't believe it for sure until I see it -- I used to work for Home Depot ) they have 4x8 2" sheets.

If I have a chance this weekend I'll go take a look.

[CharlieBedard]

I posted something similar on another thread, but I'll repeat it here 'cause this title is more likely to attract folks with the same issue.

It appears that the extruded blue/pink foam is not available in California. There is something called Expanded Styrofoam (as opposed to Extruded Styrofoam) under the brand name of Insulfoam. This stuff comes with a plastic covering on one surface and is available in 1/2", 1" and 2" thicknesses. I've visited the Insulfoam Web site to see how the stuff is made and it does begin life as plastic pellets but is less coarse than the "hobby" foam I've seen at Michaels'.

I am wondering if anyone has tried to work with it and what they might be able to share with us poor deproved Californians :-)!

Charlie Bedard

[barclaysierra]

Jetrock, well, thanks and no thanks. I see the stuff occasionally in packing, etc. Guess it's as good an excuse as any to go to Reno. I only need one sheet. Better excuse to spend my money in Reno than those other places.

[vsmith]

You can get white extruded foam in 1" thick sheets at any Micheals Craft Stores, its much courser than the blue stuff but if you going to plaster over it it works good.

[Jetrock]

They don't have it--the pink and blue stuff is apparently banned in California. Maybe it kills spotted owls or something, I dunno. But you'll have to go to Reno to get it, and sneak it in. The beaded stuff, as dreadful as it is, is pretty much the next best choice.

[barclaysierra]

I have been looking all over the Sacramento area for the blue or pink styrofoam foam insulation. Home Depot, Lowes, local lumber yards, etc. Half the folks don't even know what I'm talking about, the rest don't have a clue where to get it. No one will order just a sheet or two.....if they could figure out what I'm looking for. Any suggestions? All we seem to have is compressed white beaded foam with a plastic covering to hold it together and some yellow stuff that looks similar to what they arrange flowers in, very crumbly and also held together by heavy covering. HELP!

This topic was covered in another post on flexing the stuff, and the there was indications others in this area and California have found it not available here. Probably another of our environmental or fire codes. Anyway, if it isn't, does anyone have a suggestion for a second choice for a lightweight N scale layout on a door?

Thanks in advance...this is a great forum with a lot of excellent info.