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Posted by Tin Can II on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 11:43 AM

Looking forward to seeing the progress you make on your build.  

I have a similar sized basement, although it is already finished.  The lighting leaves much to be desired.  We have placed those flush LED lights in several rooms upstairs as part of our remodel, hope to be able to do something similar in the train room.  

I have a similar plan to store stuff under the layout in clear plastic tubs.  

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 11:56 AM

Hey Sheldon-

I'm glad to see that things are moving along.

Good luck.

Robert

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:04 PM

mobilman44

Wow, I think many of us are really looking forward to your work! 

IMO, you are the exception - having the knowledge, experience, skills, space, and bucks - and be able to put it all together and build a layout.

One question...Do you have a place to put everything during construction?

BEST WISHES !!!  

 

Everything as in all the stuff you see in the pictures? Yes and no. Some of it is on its way out of the space. Much of it is the trains. The other half of the space will provide enough room to juggle some of what must remain. And the layout will provide lots of storage space below as it progresses.

Four years ago we moved from a 4000 sq Victorian house (not counting its 1350 sq ft basement) that also had a 2200 sq ft two story detached garage/workshop/train room into this 2400 sq ft rancher with a 1500 sq ft basement and a simple two car garage. We got rid of a lot of stuff before we moved, and have continued to go through stuff and downsize our "things".

There is also a medium range plan for a detached garage/workshop - but I am simply not waiting any longer to get the layout started. It is an incentive to get rid of things we don't need.

Even right now, I can easily move a few things and have 1/3 of the space completely empty for benchwork.

Sheldon 

    

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:05 PM

Tin Can II

Looking forward to seeing the progress you make on your build.  

I have a similar sized basement, although it is already finished.  The lighting leaves much to be desired.  We have placed those flush LED lights in several rooms upstairs as part of our remodel, hope to be able to do something similar in the train room.  

I have a similar plan to store stuff under the layout in clear plastic tubs.  

 

Yes, we love the plastic tubs....

Sheldon

    

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:37 PM

ROBERT PETRICK

Hey Sheldon-

I'm glad to see that things are moving along.

Good luck.

Robert

 

Thank you again for your help, more progress soon if things stay on track.

Sheldon

    

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 11:54 PM

Hi Sheldon,

I am looking forward to following your progress.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by energizer on Sunday, June 26, 2022 12:20 AM

Looking forward to seeing more of your progress.                                                                                                                                                                                  John

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, June 26, 2022 8:23 AM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL

 

 
mobilman44

Wow, I think many of us are really looking forward to your work! 

IMO, you are the exception - having the knowledge, experience, skills, space, and bucks - and be able to put it all together and build a layout.

One question...Do you have a place to put everything during construction?

BEST WISHES !!!  

 

 

 

Everything as in all the stuff you see in the pictures? Yes and no. Some of it is on its way out of the space. Much of it is the trains. The other half of the space will provide enough room to juggle some of what must remain. And the layout will provide lots of storage space below as it progresses.

Four years ago we moved from a 4000 sq Victorian house (not counting its 1350 sq ft basement) that also had a 2200 sq ft two story detached garage/workshop/train room into this 2400 sq ft rancher with a 1500 sq ft basement and a simple two car garage. We got rid of a lot of stuff before we moved, and have continued to go through stuff and downsize our "things".

There is also a medium range plan for a detached garage/workshop - but I am simply not waiting any longer to get the layout started. It is an incentive to get rid of things we don't need.

Even right now, I can easily move a few things and have 1/3 of the space completely empty for benchwork.

Sheldon 

 

So do you miss your old house, sometime we do with the 10' coved ceiling heights, marble mantel, marketry floors and a very large stained glass window in the entry. Not to mention the marble floor in the bathroom with a 6' long sunken cast iron tub.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Sunday, June 26, 2022 9:08 AM

rrebell

 

 
ATLANTIC CENTRAL

 

 
mobilman44

Wow, I think many of us are really looking forward to your work! 

IMO, you are the exception - having the knowledge, experience, skills, space, and bucks - and be able to put it all together and build a layout.

One question...Do you have a place to put everything during construction?

BEST WISHES !!!  

 

 

 

Everything as in all the stuff you see in the pictures? Yes and no. Some of it is on its way out of the space. Much of it is the trains. The other half of the space will provide enough room to juggle some of what must remain. And the layout will provide lots of storage space below as it progresses.

Four years ago we moved from a 4000 sq Victorian house (not counting its 1350 sq ft basement) that also had a 2200 sq ft two story detached garage/workshop/train room into this 2400 sq ft rancher with a 1500 sq ft basement and a simple two car garage. We got rid of a lot of stuff before we moved, and have continued to go through stuff and downsize our "things".

There is also a medium range plan for a detached garage/workshop - but I am simply not waiting any longer to get the layout started. It is an incentive to get rid of things we don't need.

Even right now, I can easily move a few things and have 1/3 of the space completely empty for benchwork.

Sheldon 

 

 

 

So do you miss your old house, sometime we do with the 10' coved ceiling heights, marble mantel, marketry floors and a very large stained glass window in the entry. Not to mention the marble floor in the bathroom with a 6' long sunken cast iron tub.

 

 

No, not really. Maybe I miss the garage, I plan to build another one soon enough.

If you want the full tour of the old house, here is a link:

https://app.photobucket.com/u/carrollhome/a/bfdbd701-abf4-4d5f-bb20-786bbc5599c9

That house was the adventure of a lifetime, I would not trade one minute of the memories of that adventure for anything. It was an honor and priviledge to restore it, be its steward, and enjoy its pleasures for 25 years. But life moves on and things change.

Looking back, the layout I had at the old house was a compromise to that situation. The basement was not layout friendly, so the layout was in a second floor room over the garage. The garage was 32' x 40', the upstairs was 25' x 40'.

Taking materials up there was a lot of work, work I am happy to not be doing a second time.

That room was 1000 sq ft. The layout space here is 1500 sq ft.

This house requires a lot less care, giving more and more time for trains and other hobbies as I shift into semi retirement.

This house was move in ready for the most part, with only four small to medium "projects" we wanted to do, did not have to do. The biggest of which is complete.

The yard here is bigger, but the landscaping is MUCH simpler, so there is less yard work. And I have the best tool in the world for that, seen here in fall cleanup mode for the leaves:

 

This a well built brick rancher with plaster walls, solid wood doors, hardwood floors, in one of the most desireable neighborhoods around here. We have 2.3 acres. There is little traffic on our little street.

The old house was in moderately busy little village on a state highway, not real busy when we bought it in 1995, pretty busy road today.

I guess some would not like where we live, no curbs, no sidewalks, no public water or sewer serivce. No HOA, so no busybody rules, friendly like minded people who look out for each other but don't get in your business. 

Yet we are 8 minutes from downtown Havre de Grace, MD, a historic town at the mouth of the Susquehanna River where it enters the Chesapeake Bay. If you like dining and culture, Havre De Grace is your spot, festivals and activities every weekend, waterfront parks and promanade.

And it is a great place for my business of restoring old houses like this one I did a few years ago:

 

Not that I am much of a modern railfan, but the AMTRAK and CSX mainlines go right thru the town.

And it is only a 45 minute drive to Strasburg PA......

 

Miss the old house, like I said, not really. And if I want to drive by and reminisce, the old house is only 20 minutes away.

With some luck I will make some layout progress today.

Sheldon   

    

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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, June 26, 2022 10:11 AM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL
I guess some would not like where we live, no curbs, no sidewalks, no public water or sewer serivce. No HOA, so no busybody rules, friendly like minded people who look out for each other but don't get in your business. 

Sounds like heaven to me, we will all have our chain saws out and the road clear after a storm, long before the city shows up.

I will be following your build with interest Sheldon as I know I will learn a lot and get some good ideas. This thread and Daves Snow plow thread are the first stops with the morning coffee.

Brent

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:03 PM

Well, a very busy work schedule, and lots of family stuff with grandchildren, have kept me busy.

But there is progress, more photos soon.

Sheldon

    

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:06 AM

Here are a few pictures of the progress in setting up the work bench area and the staging yard benchwork.

 

 

 

The bechwork along the wall is the 10 track stub end staging yard.

 

 

 

Paint booth and new duct work system in the works.

 

 

Five decades of MR on this shelf.

 

Boxing in the steel beams nearly complete, plumbing covers soon.

 

 

 

I am bumping this based on a request from a reader who could not find it.

And I have an update regarding my lighting.

After some research I havedecided to dim and control the lighting in the layout room using the X10 home automation products.

I have a long career experiance with the X10 system and wasa big user of it at my previous home. While a very old technology, X10 has recently updated their products to be LED compatible, and their dimmers will handle 600 watts of LED lighting.

Additionally, because it is a home automation system, multiple dimmers can be programed to work simultaneously, and they can be operated by a hand held remote.

This will allow three dimmers to control the whole layout, one dimmer for aisle lighting and two for layout lighting. And again the two for the layout can be operated together. Each dimmer will only be loaded to about 2/3rds of its rating.

The dimmers and nearly 2/3rd of the lights are installed now, and I will post some pictures soon. 

Sheldon

    

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, February 2, 2023 3:07 PM

It's good to see the progress that you've already made in building your new layout, Sheldon, and I'm very-much looking forward to following along as you continue to develop it.

Cheers,

Wayne

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Posted by Doughless on Thursday, February 2, 2023 3:12 PM

Its good to see the progress.  And the shallow profile ceiling system shows off well.

- Douglas

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