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Walthers new code 83 track and Turnouts

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Posted by crossthedog on Friday, July 16, 2021 3:24 PM

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Personally, I don't know how easy it is to source blank PC board material, but then again I've never tried. Not sure if it even exists without circuitry embedded.

I think it is available. I ran across a forum post -- thought it was this forum but it could have been elsewhere -- in which someone said they found a supplier from China who sold very high quality virgin PC board for a good price. Maybe he even found it on eBay. If I can find it I'll post it.

Edit 2: It was a YouTube video and I had it completely backwards. The video poster originally ordered from China, but found better qualilty stuff (and less expensive) from an eBay seller in New Hampshire named "abcfab". The video is here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5HRE6ed9gg) and he starts the discussion at 2:35.

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, July 16, 2021 3:38 PM

If I had it to do over with my Walthers Shinohara Double Crossovers, I would have immediately secured them to a fitted piece of styrene sheet, maybe 0.060" sheet, to prevent flexing and warping. I never use caulk to secure my track work to the subroadbed (plywood in my case), but I would caulk the DCO to the styrene sheet. It needs to be flat and stable.

Rich

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, July 16, 2021 3:55 PM

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Personally, I don't know how easy it is to source blank PC board material, but then again I've never tried.

The 'best' solution might be to cheat.  Get the single-side boards as if for etching... and just don't mask anything when you etch.

I know that's a kind of kludge-esque solution, but it lets you stock just one kind of board for projects...

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Friday, July 16, 2021 6:17 PM

PC Board material is available.... Depending on the size and amount you want.

PC Board ties are very readily available, from several sources.

Online RS (Radio "Store" Smile, Wink & Grin) has PC Board in a few sizes. Other suppliers as well.

Ricky W.

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Posted by dante on Saturday, July 17, 2021 2:44 PM

Rich,

Did you spike the turnout at the locations provided in the turnout ties?

Dante

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, July 18, 2021 5:46 AM

dante

Rich,

Did you spike the turnout at the locations provided in the turnout ties?

Dante 

No,I did not.

Initially, when I installed the Walthers Shinohara Double Crossovers in the 2005-2006 period, a lot of thinking on the forum was to let turnouts "float". So, that is what I did. But, I eventually started to conclude that was a mistake, so I nailed the DCOs trhough the roadbed into the plywood subroadbed.

But, it proved too late. I had already begun to experience power losses on some rail segments. I believe that this was caused by the thin copper jumpers coming loose on the underside of the DCO, and that was caused by flexing of the turnout.

I will work my way down to the basement later this morning to photograph the underside of my remaining DCO so you can see the jumpers. There are lots of them.

Rich

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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, July 18, 2021 9:28 AM

I let my turnouts float except for the curved ones. I have several WS curved turnouts and big steam derailed on them until I stuck'em down. I used the thinnest layer of caulk to hold them down and they do come up easily with no residue on them if need be.

Brent

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, July 18, 2021 10:31 AM

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My experience has shown that after 26 years I have had little trouble with any of my Walthers/Shinohara code 83 including double crossovers.

I appreciate you sharing your experiences Ed.

I hope my "New Old Stock" Walthers/Shinohara turnouts prove to be just as reliable. I don't know if I will have 26 years left for me, but that sounds like a good long lifespan for a trackage component.

-Kevin

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