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Manual Turnout Control by Cable

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 17, 2018 2:24 PM

We would also use dowels with piano wire at each end in our planes, depending on how much room we had. We would put a ninety in the wire and into a hole drilled into the dowel, then wrapped the piano wire to the dowel with thread and cover the thread with 5 min epoxy When my planes came out of our flooded crawl space I purposely looked at how those connections stood up after fifty years and they were as good as the day I did them. Then it was off to the dumpster with them.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, December 17, 2018 2:12 PM

gregc
don't overlook wooden dowels

I had several setups using dowels, knobs and slide switches. Very reliable.

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Posted by gregc on Monday, December 17, 2018 2:05 PM

railandsail
flexible 'cable control' of turnouts.

don't overlook wooden dowels

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 17, 2018 12:13 PM

7j43k
I would be interested in reading about this R/C problem.

When I flew the radios were analog, I wonder if the issue no longer exists now everything is digital? Like I said I am only smart enough to know I need to ask. Laugh

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Posted by 7j43k on Monday, December 17, 2018 11:59 AM

I would be interested in reading about this R/C problem.

 

The layout I observed was DCC and operated flawlessly.

And the music from the radio was also flawless, so I doubt there were any radio emissions.

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 17, 2018 11:36 AM

In R/C aircraft I was taught not to put piano wire through a metal tube as it could cause radio noise when moving and interfere with the signal from the ground. I don't know if it would affect a DCC signal or not, I am only smart enough to know to ask.

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Posted by 7j43k on Monday, December 17, 2018 11:09 AM

I saw a layout where the guy had a small shelf at the edge where he mounted standard Caboose Hobbies ground throws.  He linked them to the throw rods with piano wire, and routed that through telescopic brass tubing--this all being a straight run--no curves.  The tubing was mounted on the top of the layout, and was to be later covered with scenery.  The ends of the piano wire were bent at 90 degrees for attachment.

The track was mounted on cork roadbed, so there was vertical room for the bent end under the throw rod.

Because the brass tube was (usually) sitting on top of the plywood, it was easy to support and to tie down.

Aside from being comparatively inexpensive, this system was also on the top of the layout, so it was easy to install.  And adjust.  Very simple, too.

Also, since the throws are "off the layout", there's less chance of ding-ing something "on the layout".

If I were to ever again do manual throw switches on a layout, I'd do it this way.

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 17, 2018 10:39 AM

I plan to use cable/sleeve system a lot on my layout especially anywhere there is a mounting issue. I flew model airplanes for years and never had an issue with cable control. R/C shops will also have a wide selection of bellcranks and other doodads to make hookup even easier.

I think the modern sleeve is made out of PVC. If you can find a supplier for that other than the R/C shop your cost will come down. Tubing and cable are something I would likely get direct from China and it would be dirt cheap. Bell cranks and other hardware could likely all be found from China. It is made there anyway so why not.

Last year I lost all my R/C planes when our crawlspace flooded. I was able to salvage a bunch of cable and hardware I had forgotten I even had, along with a ton of balsa and hardwoods including about three dozen lengths of dowel.

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Posted by NeO6874 on Monday, December 17, 2018 10:19 AM

I think I remember that article, greg ... 

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Posted by gregc on Monday, December 17, 2018 10:04 AM

bullfrog turnout control

google search for turnout control

the club uses the following type of linkage with a toggle switch (which provide spring loading)

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, December 17, 2018 8:45 AM

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Posted by railandsail on Monday, December 17, 2018 8:38 AM

The staging level shelf (deck) is outlined in the black mark. It fits along the edge of the room and then projects out towards the center of the back wall via that unusual form (horn?). It all sits 8" under the main deck shelf that is represented by the larger brown paper form (with its aisle).

I'm hoping to rig up some 'fixtures' mounted on that strip of shelf just outside of the turnouts that will allow a cable type manual operation of the individual turnouts, ie, wire within a plastic tube that would come up to a small panel mounted of the front face of the main deck's edge at the front of the aisle.

As you can see some of those turnouts get pretty far up under the main deck, particularly the very first ones the train reaches as it comes in from the helix area. And the turnouts that control the peninsula staging are rather un-accessable for finger-flicking. but a little wire-within-a-tube type cable could work well. I think model airplane guys use such items.

Anyone with ideas (links) to that subject matter??

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Manual Turnout Control by Cable
Posted by railandsail on Monday, December 17, 2018 8:00 AM

Basically I like the KISS principle. I like the idea of manual control for my turnouts where possible, particularly with Peco sprung turnouts.

I'm looking for as many ideas as possible for flexible 'cable control' of turnouts.

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