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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:25 AM

The whole process worked for me, I use FireFox, saved to my picture folder, no problems.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 10:11 AM

Great pictures guys!
 
Wayne, I really like your bash of the Korber Roundhouse. 
 
 
I could have used your leftovers to extend my roundhouse.  I bought a second kit to extend mine to just under 20” (144’ HO) to accommodate my biggies.  My Korber kits are about 25 years old and came with basswood for the interior bracing.
 
 
 
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Posted by selector on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 10:20 AM

railandsail

Its not working for me. when I hit 'save as' it has a 'photobucket reference' in the web link/photo address.....whatever bulls--.

Screw photobucket !!! I knew they were a scam from the start. I only hope Youtube doesn't go this same route.

 

Since PhotoBucket has added a suffix of code to all its stored image files in order to force users to pay up to free them, it stands to reason to suspect that the code is proprietary and won't allow others to copy by right-clicking or to link to them any longer.  At least, they have broken the IMG linking process since about May or so. In other words, PB is holding one's files hostage until people pay them for a subscription of one kind or another.  That is what has driven probably 50% or more of their erstwhile membership to defect and to hold up their middle fingers while closing the door behind them.

Edit: I see that at least one person has managed to work around the re-coding using FireFox, so maybe right clicking, saving to pictures library, and then re-posting for your use can be done after all.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 10:37 AM

I had no problem.  One of doctorwayne's pictures,

The detailed overhead crane in the back is great!

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:55 AM

I have no issue with folks saving my pictures for their own use - kinda flattering, I suppose, so thanks for the compliments.

Just out of curiosity, I right-clicked on Mike's version in the post above, and then "save as".  It saved alright, but was not viewable.
At one time, my photobucket albums were public, but I discovered, with some help from photobucket support, that bots were mining the pictures for use with google and other search engines.  At that time, I had a free photobucket account and that activity (along with my own posting of photos, of course) was using-up my monthly bandwidth allotment in two week or less, with the result that all photos posted on-line disappeared until the automatic monthly renewal on the anniversary date of my joining photobucket.
I then got their basic paid subscription, about $35.00 per year, and made all albums private, but with password access for a few selected friends and acquaintances.  The albums are now completely private.

I was as upset as anyone when photobucket changed their policies, but I can't say enough good things about their support staff.  They offered to "grandfather" my paid subscription, as long as I renewed it on the renewal date (for a slightly increased fee).  That would entitle me to third-party hosting until the end of 2018, at which time I'd need to ante-up at the full going rate.
However, when I attempted to do my renewal, I learned that my credit card had been suspended due to illegal activity by an unnamed party. That transaction was blocked by the card issuer, so I wasn't out-of-pocket, but I would have to wait for the new card to arrive - in about a week.
My renewal date passed, and I had pretty-well given up, when photobucket support contacted me, noting that I hadn't renewed.  I responded with my tale of woe, and they replied, almost immediately, with news that there was a glitch within their renewal process, too.  Additionally, they promised to hold my account intact until the new card arrived and I could complete that transaction. 

I cannot afford their full rate when my privileges expire at the end of 2018, but everything that I've posted here since their policy change is due mostly to their support staff.
I may seek another host site, but I hope to continue throwing my two cents-worth of words in this forum, and will be posting photos on Big Blue, where they're allowed as attachments (when sufficiently re-sized).  I'm pretty sure that "save as" will work for those, if anyone is so inclined.

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Posted by railandsail on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:07 PM

What is Big Blue ?

BTW I got one of the photos to save properly, but I'm not sure of how I did it? I followed your instructions Big Daddy, but I think the problem may have been (or is) that it was saving it to a photobucket file/folder 'on my computer' rather than a plain new folder. I don't know where that came from, if it is there?? I'll do some more playing around later.

BTW there is an even better photo of that crane out back, but I forget how I found it? Perhaps DoctorWayne can repost that one as well?

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Posted by TrainzLuvr on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:09 PM

It is possible that Photobucket is checking for a referrer in the response header before displaying any image, otherwise it wraps it around their proprietary html code.

You may try going around this issue by faking the referrer in the response headers:

Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/refcontrol/

Chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/referer-control/hnkcfpcejkafcihlgbojoidoihckciin?hl=en

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:16 PM

railandsail
What is Big Blue ?

It's a forum, like this one.

http://bigbluetrains.com/forum/index.php

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:49 PM

The picture has to be in a tab, with just the picture, no mention of photobucket anywhere, so you can save it.

Wayne since you are paying for photobucket, you may not see what we see, which is a string of popup ads which block seeing the picture.  Each ad has to be individually closed and eventually they stop appearing.  We love your pics and hope you find a cost effective site to store them.

 

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Posted by railandsail on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 6:10 PM

TrainzLuvr

It is possible that Photobucket is checking for a referrer in the response header before displaying any image, otherwise it wraps it around their proprietary html code.

You may try going around this issue by faking the referrer in the response headers:

Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/refcontrol/

Chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/referer-control/hnkcfpcejkafcihlgbojoidoihckciin?hl=en

 

I'm just not that computer knowledgable. When I clicked on your link for Firefox (which is what I use mostly), I got this message...
"This add-on is not compatible with your version of Firefox"

How do I know what freaking version I've got,...I just depend upon them to keep me up to date with their search software.

I think I discovered that the photos I was trying to download were going to a file named 'PhotoBucket photos' that I never set up?,....and that is suppose to be on my desktop (but I don't see it) ??

 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 6:26 PM

You can check the Firefox version by opening HELP and clicking on About Firefox.  Caution, if you have Firefox set for automatic upgrade it will automatically download the newest version (57).  Most of the older Add-ons wont work in Ver 57.  I went back to 56.0.02 until they allow the older add-ons.
 
 
 
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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 6:35 PM

If you can see the image on your monitor you can push the Print Screen button on your keyboard and then save it in Photo Shop by clicking File, New, Image from clipboard and then crop it as you wish and Save As.... This might also work using other programs like Paint.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:50 PM

While I usually don't mind if a thread wanders off-topic, there are some here that do.  However, since the crane under discussion is located behind the Lowbanks shops, which was originally a roundhouse, here are some pictures of the crane...

The crane is almost entirely scratchbuilt, although I did use milled basswood shapes for the handrails and the reinforcing angles on the crane's bridge and trolley  The body of the crane is sheet styrene, my first use of it in modelmaking, and what sold me on styrene as a construction material.  Some of the handrails were damaged (the crane was built in 1970, and spent most of its existence in a shoebox until it was put into use on this layout), so some have been repaired using styrene shapes from Evergreen.  The only other commercial parts are the bearing hubs on the trolley wheels (from a Revell kit for a Russian T-33 tank), the bridge wheels (from freight cars), the steel rails on which both bridge and trolley run, and the pulleys in the block - they're model shipbuilder's parts, and rather out-of-scale.

EDIT:  I thought that I had a shot of the east side of the crane, too, showing the collector rails for the trolley.  If I can't find it, I'll shoot a new one and add it here.

Well, it took five minutes to take the photos, and five hours to try to put them on a disk on my old computer, in order to import them to my new computer.  That's because while the new one recognises the camera and displays the photos, it won't let me put them in a file.  I finally gave up on the disk business - the old computer was still trying to run it this morning - and simply put them in a file, then sent them to myself in an e-mail.  Help is on the way for the new computer, though.

Here are the photos showing the other side of the crane...

...and a couple of detail views of the west side...

...and now, back to our regularly scheduled topic.

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Posted by railandsail on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:48 AM

FANTASTIC doctorwayne !!!!!

What a GREAT job

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:49 AM

Thanks, Brian. Big Smile

I've shot some fresh views, and have added them to my previous post.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 5:05 PM

I'm going to have to change the title of this thread.  A welcome change from the Photobucket discussions.

 

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Posted by TrainzLuvr on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 5:38 PM

doctorwayne

Did you ever make a video tour of your layout? I keep seeing these amazing closups but I'd love to see the whole thing step by step.

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:08 PM

selector

 

 
BigDaddy

Nice is that an Atlas?

 
 

 

 

Thank-you.  Yes, I think it is.  It was a Cornerstone kit...is that right?  It didn't fit well with the Walthers 90' "Built Up" indexable turntable.  I had to set the TT back at least six inches from the pit flange lip and curve the bay tracks from the pit lip a bit.

 

Corner Stone is Walthers, not Atlas.

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Posted by hornblower on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:51 PM

BigDaddy
The double stick tape doesn't create ridges underneath or is the whole wall double stick tape?

This was my first experience using double sided tape but I discovered it wasn't all that difficult to work with.  I found that raised ridges under the paper siding occurred only when the edges of the tape were allowed to overlap (all such pieces were discarded).  I also found that small gaps between the tape edges caused no visible problems at all!  Thus, I carefully applied the tape strips with very small separations between each strip of tape.  It may not be apparent in my photos but I used styrene strip to separate the different sections of siding.  This meant that each piece of siding remained easily workable with the double sided tape.  I would start each section of siding by pulling out a length of tape an inch or so longer than the siding.  I would then carefully apply the first length of tape along one edge of the backside of the paper siding with both ends extending beyond the ends of the siding and sticking to my work surface.  With the piece of siding now secured to my work surface, it was fairly easy to apply each successive strip of double sided tape until the entire piece was covered.  I next used a sharp hobby knife and a straight edge to trim off the excess tape and the siding piece was ready to apply.  

I also found (by accident) that it was easy to repair damaged sections of the paper siding.  I somehow managed to get a blob of full strength paint on my fingertip while mixing washes for the weathering.  All was looking great unitl I turned the structure and found a big brown fingerprint above one window!  AAaaaaggghhh! An attempt at washing off the acrylic paint only managed to mess up the printer ink so I ended up cutting out the damaged siding by carefully cutting along the board seams either side of the damage and peeling away the damaged section.  I then cut a new piece of siding to match the removed section, added double sided tape, then pressed the repair piece into place.  Perfect!  The two cut lines between the original and repair siding sections only made the paper siding look even more 3 dimensional!

The overall effect is so good that you have to get very close to the model to detect that the siding is printed paper.  Even then, you might not detect it if I don't first challenge you to tell me what the siding material is! 

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 7:50 PM

TrainzLuvr
...Did you ever make a video tour of your layout?...

I had a couple of videos of moving trains, but I'd guess that a video with me moving the camera around the layout would inspire motion sickness more than anything.

There is, however, a layout room tour, with lots of photos, HERE.  I don't have a trackplan to share, though, as the track was put down to suit the room shape, with no pre-planning.
 
The original tour photos were done before the partial second level was in place, and some of the prep work for that is seen in the early photos.  I've since added more pictures of the second level, but other than having most of the track in-place and operational, not much else has been done on it...too busy with other stuff lately.

There are additional photos on pages 3, 4, and, I think, 5.

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Posted by TrainzLuvr on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:04 PM

Oh I've never seen that thread, thanks!

It should keep me distacted for a few, then I'll bother you again for a video. :)

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, November 30, 2017 7:15 AM

Excellent!  the first time I've had the pleasure of touring your railroad.  Great work with more coming.

Thanks Wayne.

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, November 30, 2017 8:48 AM

You shoulda kept the old title. The new one makes no sense.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:17 AM

richhotrain

You shoulda kept the old title. The new one makes no sense.

Rich

 
I agree, Rich.   I certainly don't wish to usurp this thread or steer it completely away from the original topic.  

If I have time tonight, I'll start another thread at Big Blue, and then replace those crane photos with a link to them there.  That will leave them accessible to anyone interested, and let this thread revert to its original intention.   I'll also post them there as attachments, so they won't disappear when my photobucket account is terminated.
 
Henry, I appreciate your support and enthusiasm and that of others who have commented here, but your thread will stand quite well on its own, as originally posted.
 
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Posted by BigDaddy on Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:48 AM

I can change the title easy enough.  I went looking for roundhouse pics and they mostly disappeared in the photobucket apocalypse.  However a good title is helpful when one searches this forum.  The name of the poster would be a good addition to the search function, but I'm not in charge of that.

Cranes aren't my priority right now, but I don't mine the mutation of the original thread.  Wayne I thought adding you name would bring in a few more eyeballs but I don't want anyone to be uncomfortable.

 

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Posted by CGW121 on Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:30 AM

I right clicked on two of Waynes pictures, then clicked save image as, and both pics came out perfect. Maybe cause I do not use Firefox or chrome.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, December 1, 2017 6:25 PM

Hornblower  Thanks for your description of your technique of printed paper siding.

Didn't know LL made a crane, I wll have to keep an eye out for one.  When I was a kid, my parents called these Steam Shovels.  I have no idea if they were still steam in the mid 50's but they all had names....like boats.

The thread mutated toward cranes so I am going with the flow.  Maybe it will be a reference thread one day.  Here is a crane, a conveyor and an engine house on Howard Zane's layout.

 
 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, December 2, 2017 12:51 AM

Henry, I'll leave the crane pictures here, although they'll eventually be gone when my photobucket account closes.

I have, however, put them all (and quite a few more) in a new thread at Big Blue
They're all entered as attachments, so should be easy to copy if anybody wants pictures for their own use.

I've also looked around over there and noticed that I have just over 50 threads there that I'd like to preserve, and that have photos from photobucket.  Most of those are either how-tos, or how-I-did-something, or illustrated story threads, all of which I'd like to re-do with attachments, as I feel that they're either useful for others or at least interesting.
I'm not kidding myself that these will be indelible, though.

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Posted by railandsail on Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:28 AM

Doctorwayne, I actually think there should be some sort of class action lawsuit filed against Photobucket

On the roundhouse subject I found this photo over on that other forum,...not exactly the smallest roundhouse the OP was looking for....

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