Ok, here are two pics of the revised loading pens.
Obviously there are some more details that will be included, but I wanted to run this by you guys again per your recommendations in a previous thread.
Bear "It's all about having fun."
You need some sort of loading/unlaoding area to get the cattle to the pens to be loaded onto the trains or taken away after the trains deliver them. Even packed dirt tracks at the back of the pens to make it look like a truck/trailer was backed in. Gates to help direct the critters to/from the trucks would help too. I suppose they could be movable, but attached ot the pens would be better.
Gook luck,
Richard
I like it, mutch more real like. Like you said, add some livestock,a truck, prehaps a cowboy and horse and there ya go
I want to add the buyer's caddy with the horns on the hood to my pens,,someday
Cowman, off to the left, and not in the pic, is a trail where the cattle are herded to the pens.
I am looking for cowboys...but there dont appear to be any to be had.
This version looks much better. The "dirt" inside the pens looks great.
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Carl, I purposely set the scenery for the spring after a high precipitation (for Arizona) fall and winter so the Gila River and Copper Creek are flowing. I have both on my layout. The sajuaros are blossoming like crazy and there are wildflowers all over the place. As beautiful as Arizona can be in the basin and range lowlands during a normal year, during a spring that I just described the desert is magnificent.
bearmanI am looking for cowboys...but there dont appear to be any to be had.
I'm in touch with my femine side tonight and I would prefer cowgirls
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
"...I would prefer cowgirls"
No you would not, bigdaddy
Bear
I think you have considerably improved a scene that was already good to start with.
I do like cowman's suggestion of some sort of path where the trucks back up to the pens.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
bearman I am looking for cowboys...but there dont appear to be any to be had.
from Woodland Scenics: Ridin' & Ropin' : Hobos (some as is-some modified) : Jug Band (look like cowboys but musical instruments may preclude their use : Some figures from other sets could be modified
from Preiser : Track Workers (couple of the figures) : Track Workers 5/
I tried to sell my two cents worth, but no one would give me a plug nickel for it.
I don't have a leg to stand on.
Yeah, definite improvement. Looks like the cattle have been stomping through.
Here's what I would do about getting the cattle in the pens, but it's more than that. You've also got track on the gate side of the pens towards the bottom. Even assuming there's no trucking involved, you still need a way for the drovers to funnel them in and keep 'em off the track.
Looks like the Life-Like/Walthers kits, as I have several. If you can swing another one, I'd deconstruct it and build a fence all along the rear. It could open to the right, bottom of your pics here. Or you could hack the rail-loading ramp into one for unloading trucks. Or both.
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
Would the loading/unloading area go in a curve to make the cows less scared? I remember reading that slaughter pens use curved fences. Perhaps I'm thinking of Disney World where you have long lines that wrap around and you're made to feel like part of a herd.
Def no cowboys. Put in Redskins and Redskins only! #HTTR.
kasskabooseWould the loading/unloading area go in a curve to make the cows less scared? I remember reading that slaughter pens use curved fences.
You're thinking of Temple Grandin's designs. She's a pretty recent development in such things, so for the era this structure is in, not an influence. Plus, her ideas have been applied mainly to slaughterhouse complexes to keep the meat from being affected by pre-kill stress, although they are generally applicable to all livestock handling facilities.
Here's a link that tells more: http://www.grandin.com/
She received her PhD here at the University of Illinois.
This is the area to the right of the loading pens.
And tearing it apart to provide access to the loading pens is not going to happen. I have however, provided a crossing to the left of the loading pens based on the assumption that the cattle would be herded over those two rails towards the back. I admit that the crossing is not even close to being prototypical and it has become a compromise that I have had to make. As you noted, Mike, the kits are the Life Like/Walthers and I do have some scrap fencing and will give strong consideration to buying another one if necessary to run a fence along the track behind the loading pens.
And tearing it apart to provide access to the loading pens is not going to happen. I have however, provided a crossing to the left of the loading pens based on the assumption that the cattle would be herded over those two rails towards the back. I admit that the crossing is not even close to being prototypical and it has become a compromise that I have had to make.
As you noted, Mike, the kits are the Life Like/Walthers and I do have some scrap fencing and will give strong consideration to buying another one if necessary to run a fence along the track behind the loading pens.
Bearman,
OK, I can see not wanting to tear things out to get the trucks in. But sounds like you have a credible solution in hand. Basically all you need is a L-shaped fence that encloses where the gates open into the pens. If the open end of the L has a gate, so much the better, but it's no absolutely necessary, especially in situations where the cattle will be herded in, rather than riding in trucks.
Mike, I probably have to make a purchase soon, so, after I check on the scraps I have, I will probably order up the levestock pens kit if necessary.
I like what you've done with the mud and dirt better.
FYI, if you look at the earlier thread where I posted two versions of my pens with hogs in them, note that one picture has the hogs as they came from the box, and the other has them painted and weathered. When you get your livestock, they too will look better after some Dull-Coat and other weathering.
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Thanks Mr. B, I will take your advice.
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