LION has no air copmressor...
Is BIG 100 psi compressor in the boiler room. (Used for blowing out the firetubes on a big coal fired boiler)
LION just uses a small pressure tank and bleeds of what him kneads and takes that to the train room of him.
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tietwiddleI bought this compressor a couple years ago and am very happy with it. And it is very quiet, much quieter than my old Badger compressor.
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I also use a California Air Tools Compressor for airbrushing.
It is very quiet, and I am very happy with it.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
gmpullman Although I do not own this particular one it looks—to me—like a better choice than the Harbor Fright one (yes I spelled it correctly) http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-FP209499-3-Gallon-Compressor/dp/B002O15NRS/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1452802330&sr=1-2&keywords=quiet+air+compressor&refinements=p_89%3ACampbell+Hausfeld I bought a different C-H compressor that is VERY quiet but it is no longer offered by C-H but instead by Dewalt: I highly recommend it but again, at twice the price but it will last ten times longer and will DO the job: http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-FP209499-3-Gallon-Compressor/dp/B002O15NRS/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1452802330&sr=1-2&keywords=quiet+air+compressor&refinements=p_89%3ACampbell+Hausfeld I have never purchased a single thing from Harbor Fright but from many conversations from people who have, I'll pass thank you. Good Luck, Ed
Although I do not own this particular one it looks—to me—like a better choice than the Harbor Fright one (yes I spelled it correctly)
http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-FP209499-3-Gallon-Compressor/dp/B002O15NRS/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1452802330&sr=1-2&keywords=quiet+air+compressor&refinements=p_89%3ACampbell+Hausfeld
I bought a different C-H compressor that is VERY quiet but it is no longer offered by C-H but instead by Dewalt:
I highly recommend it but again, at twice the price but it will last ten times longer and will DO the job:
I have never purchased a single thing from Harbor Fright but from many conversations from people who have, I'll pass thank you.
Good Luck, Ed
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BigDaddyI was just looking at their pancake compressors. The regulators they sell in the store do not permit fine adjustment.
I ended up with a Porter Cable pancake compressor from Home Despot. I bought a water trap/ regulator off amazon and it started leaking after a couple hours.
I used to have a little Badger compressor. The pancake is so much better for airbrushing, the Badger, having no tank, ran continuously. Moisture was also a problem and has not been a problem with the larger compressor, even though the water trap died.
Porter is not part of Stanley Black and Decker, which is located in my old home town. I don't feel bad about not sending money to China.
Henry
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Shenandoah Valley
Hello all,
Yes, I bought the Airbrush Compressor with Airbrush Kit (#95630).
I have been using rattle cans for all of my hobby painting needs. I saw this item in the HF flyer.
The price was right at $79.99; including the airbrush with accessories.
I got home, unpacked it and assembled the kit.
The first thing I noticed was that the "regulator" on the compressor (attached to the moisture trap) is not a regulator. It is just a P.S.I. gage.
When I activated the airbrush the gage only monitored the P.S.I. of the flow to the airbrush. It dipped and climbed with the release of air through the airbrush.
There is a knurled knob on the bottom of the moisture trap that acts as somewhat of a regulator.
Air was leaking from this knurled knob assembly. I pulled it apart to discover that one of the O-rings had been crushed during assembly.
I called HF customer service and they could not provide a replacement part for the damaged one. They told me to return it to the place of purchase for a replacement.
The only problem is that the nearest HF; where I purchased this kit, is an hour-and-a-half away- -one way!
I went to the LHS; 6-miles away, and found the replacement O-ring for less than $1.00!
The unit worked but there was no true pressure regulation.
For $20.00 I purchased a true pressure regulator, an adapter nipple and sealing compound.
I installed the pressure regulator, reassembled the kit and everything is now working just fine.
The airbrush itself is not the highest quality for really fine lines, but for my general needs it does the trick.
The bottom line:
Yes, it did take additional time, effort, parts and money to bring this kit up to a reasonable working order.
The actual compressor is quite and does reach the 58 P.S.I. listed, once the O-ring issue was solved.
The airbrush is an inexpensive model that I will eventually "upgrade".
I'm a tinkerer so "customizing" this kit was not a deal-breaker for me, but might be the deciding factor for others.
Would I recommend this kit to a friend I would say, "Yes, with caveats!"
Hope this helps.
Post Script:
Micro-Mark offers what appears to be the identical compressor (#86108) for $99.95. A separate regulator/moisture trap (#86113) for $27.95. This does not include fittings, an airbrush, hose and other accessories.
HTH- -J.J.D.
"Uhh...I didn’t know it was 'impossible' I just made it work...sorry"
Never having airbrushed before I picked up the HF kit, which may or may not be the exact same compressor (I think the website claims to have both a 1/5 and 1/6 HP model).It was apparent soon that the sustained 40 or so PSI that it puts out is a little forceful for the airbrushing I wanted to do and found, unlike Julian, that I was able to easily swap the moisture trap with this one with a regulator on top: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00171BFKK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Now I can dial it down to 10-15 psi. If I had to do it all over I'd buy a compressor with a tank so it doesn't run continuously, but it works. Better now that I replaced the HF suction action airbrush with a Badger gravity-feed.I also bought the 1/3 HP hot dog (very loud) and paint tank from HF to make a pressure tank for resin casting but haven't yet bought the fittings to try it out with the airbrush.
People complain all the time about Harbor Freight but some of the stuff is great. I have lots of their clamps and picks. I bought some chisels, nice thing about them is they are so cheap that if I hit a nail (happens when working with old wood in construction) if it is damaged too much, you buy a new set and yes I have had the good stuff but they are not worth the extra unless you just work with new wood. One thing I wouldn't buy is their battery powered stuff because at HD for a few, very few $ more you can get Ryobi when on sale and these4 have worked well in real construction impressing even an old line carpenter and that was in the days of ni-cad.
chutton01 I purchased this Central Pneumatic (1/3HP, 3gal 100psi) model several years ago (or one very similar to it), works pretty well with no issues so far. I've only used it for airbrushing, I have a different heavy one for air-powered tools and inflating tires.Lightweight and seeming pretty durable; yes it is somewhat noisy (but not Jet Engine loud).I drain the air after use to prevent rusting of the tank. Takes standard quick-disconnect fittings, no problem.
I purchased this Central Pneumatic (1/3HP, 3gal 100psi) model several years ago (or one very similar to it), works pretty well with no issues so far. I've only used it for airbrushing, I have a different heavy one for air-powered tools and inflating tires.Lightweight and seeming pretty durable; yes it is somewhat noisy (but not Jet Engine loud).I drain the air after use to prevent rusting of the tank. Takes standard quick-disconnect fittings, no problem.
Central Pneumatic 1/3HP, 3 gallons 100 psi air compressor is very small so it is very easy to transport to any place.
I bought this compressor a couple years ago and am very happy with it. And it is very quiet, much quieter than my old Badger compressor.http://www.californiaairtools.com/ultra-quiet-oil-free-air-compressors/1-2-hp-air-compressors/cat-1650a/
I would also recommend buying a compressor large enough to power multiple air tools. Years ago, I stumbled onto a DeVilbiss 4 HP 12 gallon compressor at a short lived big box DIY store for a rediculously low price! Since I was racing cars at the time, it was purchased mainly to power automotive related air tools. However, I used it to power a brad nailer while constructing my current layout and use it a lot for my various air-powered painting needs. Yes, it is noisy but the 50' air hose I have allows me to leave the compresor inside my garage while I paint outside. Another racing related item that is useful for airbrush painting is the portable air tank we used to adjust tire pressures in the hot pits. If I want to paint inside my house and don't want to disturb others, I fill this portable air tank and use it with an in-line regulator as my air source. A single charge of this tank (about 10 gallons at only 75 psi) gives me around 20 cumulative minutes of painting time with a Harbor Freight single action airbrush. The portable tank will hold a higher charge but the vinyl hose of the HF airbrush can't handle more pressure as it will just pop off the airbrush fitting. One of their nicer braided air hoses might solve this problem. Aside from a slight shushing noise when the airbrush is in use, the portable air tank is otherwise silent.
Hornblower
There you go, sounds like one of the 3 gal HF compressors will do the job. And the 6 gal Porter Campbell seems to be popular here for those wanting more.
One thing I find very interesting, coming from an engineer with experience specifying industrial compressors and also using large compressors for "hobby" automotive bodywork and painting, the ratings for small compressors are very misleading. I mentioned in your other thread that the most important thing to look for is SCFM rating. The motor HP and tank size do not tell you how big the compressor head is and the compressor head is what determines how much air a compressor will put out. But the airflow ratings for consumer compressors are usually hidden away somewhere in the product specifications.
The airflow rating for mini "airbrush compressors" is generally 0.8 SCFM or lower at 40 psi. And Ricky sums up my experience very well- that may be enough air for an artist using a very small airbrush tip, but borderline for our sort of use. The 3 gal HF compressors are rated at 1.0 SCFM at 40 psi and based on responses here that sounds like it is enough to keep up, especially with the bigger tank to provide some surge capacity. The 6 gal Porter Campbell is rated at 3.5 SCFM at 40 psi which is way overkill, and I am sure it is noisier than the smaller HF compressors, but it puts out three times the airflow so it hardly has to run when airbrushing.
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wdcrvr,
I have this one..... http://t.harborfreight.com/air-tools/air-compressors/1-3-hp-3-gallon-100-psi-oilless-air-compressor-97080.html?utm_referrer=direct%2Fnot%20provided
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Many, many moons ago (more thn 10 years), I purchased a 3 gallon air compressor from Lowes. Never had an issue and it always performed with it's intended use (maintaining tire pressure on vehicles, blowing dust/dirt of workbench, brad nailer and other items). A few months ago, it could no longer build air pressure, could have been the reeds went bad, but didn't see putting forth the effort to troubleshoot. Especially since technology has changed in a decade.
For Christmas, Mrs Santa bought me a 6 gallon, 1.5 horsepower, 150 psi air compressor from Harbor Freight, on sale for $98. I have used this multiple times in the past 3 weeks and it has performed as expected, no problems. As a matter of fact, I was impressed with the set-up of valves, outlets, regulators, etc. All of my air attachments (hose, fittings, chucks, moisture trap, etc) transferred right over.
I took it to the garage to "test it". Plugged it in, turned it on.....wanted to make sure it built pressure to 150 psi and also see how long it took to build it to 150 psi. The first thing my wife said "wow, that's quieter than the old one". After a few minutes, build pressure to 150, the cut-off stopped the motor. I disconnected the hose and only left those items attached that came with the compressor....wanted to make sure it maintained pressure and no leaks. After several minutes, the needle on the tank pressure stayed at the same spot it was when the cut-off activated.
So, on to airbrushing......Since it winter and I don't have a heated garage, if I want to airbrush, I need to do it inside. Although this compressor is quieter than the old one, I'm not going to run it inside. So, I run the compressor in the garage, once pressure built/tank full, disconnect on bring inside. This also allows me to see how much "air time" I get operating my airbrush at 35-40 psi. I can get an hour or so between "fill-ups", which also gives me a break in airbrushing operations.
Bottom line....I'm happy with my Harbor Freight compressor. I bought it for light to medium use, I know it's not designed for air tools, impact wrenches, etc. My suggestion...if you can afford the additonal $20 or $30 for a 3 or 6 gallon compressor, get it. You'll be able to much more....
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I will only comment on the model from HF that I currently use and have, I cannot comment on any other model, with three exceptions:
While it is noisier than an actual airbrush compressor, it out performs them by a long margin. None of the "quiet" airbrush only compressors I have tried have been able to keep up with my airbrush, nor put out anything near the constant 32-38psi that I airbrush at. They simply do not have the power needed to do that.
Of the three "quiet airbrush" compressor models I have tried, one from Testor's, one from Sears, ordered online, and one from a craft store, one is still around, two were returned immediately. The "best", (said very loosely), would "start" out at around 32psi, but then almost immediately fall to around 26psi during use. (And, by "during use", I am not talking about a long painting session, but one model, in HO scale.) This does affect the paint job. (And, it would not even power my dual action brush long enough to complete one coat on a boxcar!) The two that were returned immediately would not even hit the advertised psi, let alone sustain it. (Nor would they come anywhere close to maintaining the 28psi minimum for my dual action brush. NOTE: I use acrylics only, enamel based paints can use a slightly lower psi, but only under perfect conditions.)
Now, while I have not measured decibel levels, the "best" airbrush compressor that I still have, is not much quieter than the full featured model I do have. And, the full featured model I have from HF can more than keep up with my airbrush, once the tank if full, it shuts off. It will then start up only long enough to bump the psi back up to upper limit, then shuts back off. So, the noise level is not constant like with an airbrush only model.
And, while totally unscientific, my family complains much more about my drum set sound level (can't call music "noise", unless it's that annoying hip-hop rap junk ) than they ever do about my airbrushing with the HF compressor.......
OP here. I get the impression that some people like the item and some don't. Coul be worth it. I am wondering, however, if this compressor would be quiet enough that I coul use it in my basement without disturbing my wife who is watching tv upstairs? How quiet is it?
Also, I started another thread about two other brands of compressor that I might consider. I hope you don't think I am abusing the site by asking for so much information, but I really don't know who else to ask as a trusted source.
Thanks
wdcrvr
I agree it's not worth spending a bunch of money just to airbrush. That HD compressor was on a super sale at the time- think I paid $79 for it. Otherwise I would have looked at HF too.
I do a good bit of car painting too and the HF "purple" spray guns are a great deal and cheap enough to be throw-aways. Just depends on what you are buying When it comes to HF. But my garage compressor is a big 220V craftsman that I bought in 1985 and it's still going strong. I wouldn't expect that sort of life from anything these days no matter where I bought it.
I did forget to mention the point that Ricky W. (who has the same HF 1/3HP 3gal compression as me) made, which is get a decent moisture trap if you live outside of a desert. It is helpful.The HF compression resides in an uninsulated garage, and it does get freezing cold here in the depths of winter, but so far 3 winters have not affected it's performance (the winters do, however, affect any paint that I forgot to bring in after the last paint session - oops).HF seems to do (well, source) compressors right; other things (such as a tap set - taps were dull and deformable) are junk. I guess do your reseach first...As I have said in the past, Harbor Freight was founded to sell mediocre-quality imported tools and equipment at really low prices (OK, maybe not specificially, but I do recall those ads in the back of Popular Mechanics and Popular Science decades ago).Sadly, Home Depot and Lowes have gotten the "sell mediocre-quality imported" stuff part down, but not the "really low prices" part.
I wanted to get a compressor since my ex made my Sears compressor disappear some years back. About year ago I started reading reviews of compressors which weren't top shelf, including semi-modest priced Sears, Home Depot etc. along with the HF variety. Bottom line is there were random complaints of compressors not lasting more than a period of months so I bought an HF compressor for $40 on one of their big sales. If I can get a year or two out of it, I won't complain.
Edit: as Chutton pointed out, HD and HF are in the mediocre category if you read the reviews. So yeah, my feeling was why pay $1xx for a mediocre which could fail after 12 months when I could pay a fraction of it and hopefully get a similar life. I can't really afford one of those wiz bang higher cost ones that the folks with lots of disposable income say are really worth it. Sure, if you've got the scratch, why not? If painting is a main stay for a person, they the investment of extra $$ may be too. Just depends on your needs etc. For the occasional painter...
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I have the HF $70 air brush./compressor and am quite satisfied with it. When I first purchased it the air brush was assembled incorrectly. Once I figure that out I haven't had any problems with it.
Tom
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I use the exact same one with my airbrush. Works very well.
It is on the loud side, but, works extremely well.
It will also get enough PSI built up to inflate auto tires, and smaller items.
I also drain excess air from the tank, and added a moisture trap.
Works very well, and I highly recommend it.
BTW, mine is about 3&1/2 years old and still no issues.
I just looked and the pancake compressor I bought is an earlier version of this one from HD. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-6-Gal-150-PSI-Portable-Air-Compressor-C2002/203162815.
I added a fine adjustment regulator/dryer to one of the outputs to attach my airbrush hose, and left the other output the standard disconnect so I can also use a brad nailer, air blowoff, etc. At $99 its a little more expensive than HF, but a whole lot more air for the money.
Stuff from HF is a mixed bag. Some of it works great and some is absolute junk. The little compressor that came with my airbrush kit worked poorly and kicked the bucket after just a few months. No regrets on buying a "real" compressor to airbrush with.
Rather than the tankless model for the same price or less buy a model with a tank such as Chutton01 linked or a pancake style such as http://www.harborfreight.com/3-gallon-100-psi-oilless-pancake-air-compressor-95275.html . Tanked models give you a smoother air flow and the compressor doesn't run continuously. I have the pancake model and have had no problems with it.
Joe
Their corner clamps are crap as well. Loose and don't stay clamped.
Julian
Modeling Pre-WP merger UP (1974-81)
My friends and I joke that Harbor Freight tools are one use only. If you just need a tool to use once, buy it there. If you want a tool that you are going to use over and over again get a professional quality name brand.