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Ogden & Cache Valley RR - Layout Construction

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Posted by rrebell on Friday, November 23, 2018 8:13 AM

personally tried to geta (i'm still here) from him, nadda. One of the troubles with online forums and their small comunitys is you never really know the person and unless you get an online connection to a freind of theirs, you never know as someone can be here one day and disapear the next. The answer can be anything from work to things we don't want to consider.

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Posted by tedtedderson on Thursday, November 22, 2018 9:55 PM

Santa Fe all the way!

Is anyone else really disappointed that this thread is evidently over? I looked forward to each and every update. Bummer☹️

 

I think earlier in the thread he mentioned his job is pretty involved at times.  Plus, judging by the photos on his website link in his signature, he's got quite a few hobbies.  

Hopefully it's premature to say it's over. But I also looked forward to updates.  Pretty cool setup to say the least.  

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Thursday, November 22, 2018 5:20 PM

Is anyone else really disappointed that this thread is evidently over? I looked forward to each and every update. Bummer☹️

Come on CMW, make a '41-'46 Chevy school bus!
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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:45 PM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL
Santa Fe all the way!

I don't think that somebody would go to all the trouble to build a special building to house their layout, spend a large amount of money, and spend a large amount of time building and documenting, Just to lose interest and stop?? 

Agreed, but they may loose interest, or lack the time/desire to continue sharing every detail on the internet.........

Sheldon

Or they simply might not have anything particularly interesting to report in a new post.

I've been doing quite a bit of work on my layout lately, but almost nobody other than me would see much difference. Well . . . actually, not quite a bit of work. But some. Wyoming has a very short summer and I've had to waste a lot of time doing outdoor work in the general category of domestic tranquility and real estate equity preservation.

I expect both the pace and the scope of MRR work to pick up shortly, but that might not translate into new forum postings.

Robert 

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:25 PM

Santa Fe all the way!

I don't think that somebody would go to all the trouble to build a special building to house their layout, spend a large amount of money, and spend a large amount of time building and documenting, Just to lose interest and stop?? 

 

Agreed, but they may loose interest, or lack the time/desire to continue sharing every detail on the internet.........

Sheldon

    

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:03 PM

I don't think that somebody would go to all the trouble to build a special building to house their layout, spend a large amount of money, and spend a large amount of time building and documenting, Just to lose interest and stop?? 

Come on CMW, make a '41-'46 Chevy school bus!
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Posted by riogrande5761 on Sunday, October 7, 2018 8:54 PM

No.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Saturday, October 6, 2018 9:47 PM

Sometimes people just loose interest in the internet...........

Notice how much less I post?

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, October 5, 2018 12:26 PM

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Santa Fe all the way!
Starting to worry 

I'll say.  I just checked the wesite listed on One Wolf's signature.  Nothing new there either.

Me too.  His last post at another forum was likewise, about six months ago.

I haven't seen anything by Pastor Bob in a few years either.  Sigh

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Posted by Water Level Route on Thursday, October 4, 2018 8:38 AM

Santa Fe all the way!
Starting to worry

I'll say.  I just checked the wesite listed on One Wolf's signature.  Nothing new there either.

Mike

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 11:29 PM

Anything new? Starting to worry

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Friday, August 24, 2018 12:48 PM

It's been about 5 months, anything new? 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, July 9, 2018 1:28 PM

Onewolf.  Just curious, why did you go with insulfrog Peco's rather than electro frog?

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Posted by rtrowbridge on Thursday, June 14, 2018 12:06 PM

Same here. I stumbled across this thread looking for a map of the Cache Valley Branch. I live in the area and have a small N scale layout representing the branch.

I'm really curious as to what towns besides Ogden, Franklin, and Brigham are going to be represented on the layout. I live a bit North of Cache Junction (where the branch splits off) where there's a siding on the Ogden Subdivision for a feed mill.

It's too bad the layout is meant for 1957. A decade earlier and he could have included the Utah and Idaho Interurban railway. An electric line paralleling his mainline for much of the way could have been fun.

This is an old document, but it describes the geology of the area for when scenery building starts.

https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/geology/publications/bul/612/sec20.htm

SpaceMouse

Wow!

I just spent 3 hours of my layout building time reading through this thread beginning to end. What can I say? I was late to the party. 

I have only one question.

Did anyone else get dizzy watching the mainline video when the train was going thfough the helix?

 

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:12 PM

Wow!

I just spent 3 hours of my layout building time reading through this thread beginning to end. What can I say? I was late to the party. 

I have only one question.

Did anyone else get dizzy watching the mainline video when the train was going thfough the helix?

Chip

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Posted by RWSlater on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:36 AM

The round house and turntable look great.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 5:50 AM

Most excellent roundhouse.  Amazing job.

I enjoy your regular construction updates.  Keep'em coming.

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:39 PM

Love the roundhouse/turntable!! 

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Posted by Old Fat Robert on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 5:00 PM

Onewolf: Your work is amazing! One of the those layouts that makes me want to do more on mine and then I look at mine and compare the two.......... I have a lot of catching up to do!

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Posted by Onewolf on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 3:19 PM

I finished weathering/spraying/cleaning all 1200 ft of visible track and then I installed the Walthers 130 ft (scale) turntable in the locomotive service terminal.  
After I got the turntable installed/working I started working on the 12 stall roundhouse (base 3 stall kit + 3 three stall addition kits). 

Now I'm working on installing the 17 service tracks around the turntable (4 garden tracks, 12 roundhouse stalls, machine shop track).  Each service track will have a manual power switch to be able to disable (sound) locomotives.





The cardboard cutouts are being used to locate additional buildings in the loco service terminal





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Posted by Onewolf on Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:31 PM

rrebell

I started out doing more than neccisary too by painting the ties and coming in and accually brushing the rust on the rails. What I found is that after all was said and done with ballast and scenery, you could not find the more detailed work unless you knew where to look. What I did find inhanced is areas that I took a short cut by not protecting the track from stuff like plaster drips (these were really plaster colored water or were removed right away). So to do this more refinded, adding different colors here and there dose add realism. I suspect that if you paint a few ties white here and there and maybe an off white and then spray your brown, that might work for you, would try it myself and report back but between layouts right now and no place to do hobby work.

 

Thanks for the reply.  I have concluded that initially weathering the track/ties with 'just' the Dark Earth brown will be sufficient and more easily reproduceable.  For some of the secondary/spur tracks I will probably add some rail 'rust' later on using a brush/pen.  I will also add some schmoodging variation to the mainline/branchlines using wet/dry brush.

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Posted by rrebell on Monday, February 19, 2018 10:06 AM

I started out doing more than neccisary too by painting the ties and coming in and accually brushing the rust on the rails. What I found is that after all was said and done with ballast and scenery, you could not find the more detailed work unless you knew where to look. What I did find inhanced is areas that I took a short cut by not protecting the track from stuff like plaster drips (these were really plaster colored water or were removed right away). So to do this more refinded, adding different colors here and there dose add realism. I suspect that if you paint a few ties white here and there and maybe an off white and then spray your brown, that might work for you, would try it myself and report back but between layouts right now and no place to do hobby work.

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Posted by Onewolf on Monday, February 19, 2018 9:53 AM

Status update....

I am redoing/replacing the double track mainline that circles behind the (future) turntable/roundhouse area. There were issues with the levelness of the Homasote subroadbed and the double gapped curved track was casuing problems so I decided for a complete redo of that area. The new trackwork is much better/smoother/reliable.  Redoing existing trackwork is somewhat annoying but the end results are worth it.  I learned quite a bit as I went along and my trackwork improved considerably relative to the first parts of track I installed.





Still trying to figure out a formula/process for weathering the track.  I have about 1200 ft of visible track to weather so I want to figure out a reasonably efficient/repeatable process that doesn't involve me dying in a cloud of spray paint fumes.



The current test process I'm trying is to spray with the original (too reddish) brown from a low angle on the side (rust on sides of track)....



And then come back with Rustoleum Camo Ultra Flat 'Earth Brown' from directly above to color the ties dark brown.

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Posted by wickman on Monday, February 12, 2018 7:53 AM

What a fantastic update. 

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Monday, February 12, 2018 1:09 AM

Thanks so very much for the update! Ive been following from the beginning and have thoroughly enjoyed it. 

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Posted by Onewolf on Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:12 PM

ROBERT PETRICK

Hey One Wolf,

Thanks for the update. Glad to see you're back. I can understand why it's been a while. It must have taken that long to compose and post that post. All those photos and a cohesive narrative to boot! How did you get all that stuff into the small little tiny editing window provided by this forum? Most impressive. Bow

I compose my status update posts using Notepad and copy/paste into the forum 'reply' window.  :)

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Posted by Onewolf on Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:10 PM

The Peco code 83 (and 100) turnouts are MUCH more robust than the Micro Engineering code 70 turnouts.  The Micro Engineering turnouts look better. While both the Peco have a positive throw spring machanism, the Peco is much more secure.  Every one of the Pecos function flawlessly when installed. Every one of my Micro Engineering code 70 #6 turnouts required 'tuning' to get them to function properly.

The only problem I have had with some of the Pecos (both code 100 and 83) is that some out of spec locos/rolling stock will cause them to short across the frog.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Saturday, February 10, 2018 10:44 AM

I haven't used the Peco or ME code 83 so far, only Atlas code 83, along with Walthers/Shinohara for specialy like curved, 3-way and double slip.  How do they compare in your experience?  The ME are a bit more economical so significant cost savings over a large order.

I'm thinking of using Peco code 100 large in staging.

I haven't decided insulfrog vs. electofrog, although he who should not be named over at MRH recomments electrofrog for less chance of electrical pickup issues and they wear longer.

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Posted by RWSlater on Saturday, February 10, 2018 9:42 AM

This is one impressive layout you are building onewolf. I have been following along for a while now. 

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Saturday, February 10, 2018 9:22 AM

Hey One Wolf,

Thanks for the update. Glad to see you're back. I can understand why it's been a while. It must have taken that long to compose and post that post. All those photos and a cohesive narrative to boot! How did you get all that stuff into the small little tiny editing window provided by this forum? Most impressive. Bow

Anyhow, great work on the layout. Great update. I'm gonna take a little while to read it over and study the photos. Saturday morning, coffee on the veranda, but no newspaper today, tablet instead.

Robert

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